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i am buying a De Rosa bike. I would like to know the model. frame is nice and all equipment is campagnolo. rins campagnolo mexico 68. any idea????
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I believe the frame is the "other" de rosa (if it is one), not the de rosa you're probably thinking of.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
(Post 17554534)
I believe the frame is the "other" de rosa (if it is one), not the de rosa you're probably thinking of.
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It's unlike any De Rosa I've ever seen. The seat cluster is wrong, the fork crown is wrong, the bottom bracket is wrong.
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Originally Posted by cambowide
(Post 17554558)
what do you mean? it is not original???
I've come across them before - they seemed ok. Never ridden one. They're a little crude compared to Ugo de rosa. For what it's worth, I would consider it some what deceptive to sell this as a de rosa without the explanation/disclaimer. It is, technically, a de rosa...but if I were selling one, I'd have called it a Naples de rosa to avoid confusion. |
I would agree with KonAaron Snake. It's not a Ugo De Rosa and whomever you bought it from should probably have explained that to you.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
(Post 17554696)
The de rosa most people think of, and the one you mean, is Ugo de rosa (and family) of Milan. There was also a builder named de rosa from Naples, and this is that de rosa. It is likely a de rosa, but not the de rosa you were thinking of.
I've come across them before - they seemed ok. Never ridden one. They're a little crude compared to Ugo de rosa. For what it's worth, I would consider it some what deceptive to sell this as a de rosa without the explanation/disclaimer. It is, technically, a de rosa...but if I were selling one, I'd have called it a Naples de rosa to avoid confusion. @op If the bike you are buying is inexpensive enough it may still be a fun rider for you. Something to think about. |
Originally Posted by gomango
(Post 17555135)
Agreed.
@op If the bike you are buying is inexpensive enough it may still be a fun rider you. Something to think about. It might be fun as a discussion piece. You could ride it to your local bike-nerd hang out, wait for everyone to tell you it's a fake and then drop some knowledge. The Naples de rosa actually pre-dates Ugo De Rosa as I recall, so you can be haughty and say you have the ORIGINAL De Rosa. I've always wondered how the intellectual property issue was worked out on this. |
Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
(Post 17555137)
It should be VERY inexpensive given the poor presentation.
It might be fun as a discussion piece. You could ride it to your local bike-nerd hang out, wait for everyone to tell you it's a fake and then drop some knowledge. The Naples de rosa actually pre-dates Ugo De Rosa as I recall, so you can be haughty and say you have the ORIGINAL De Rosa. I've always wondered how the intellectual property issue was worked out on this. |
Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
(Post 17555137)
It should be VERY inexpensive given the poor presentation.
It might be fun as a discussion piece. You could ride it to your local bike-nerd hang out, wait for everyone to tell you it's a fake and then drop some knowledge. The Naples de rosa actually pre-dates Ugo De Rosa as I recall, so you can be haughty and say you have the ORIGINAL De Rosa. I've always wondered how the intellectual property issue was worked out on this. Buying a vintage bike can be tricky business if the knowledge base isn't up to the challenge... So hard to get $$$ out if an owner decides to resell. |
Originally Posted by cambowide
(Post 17555148)
I can get it very cheap, usd150 or less. but i do not have a lot of space...the story sounds interesting to me.
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Interesting thread...I always like when we get into the history of things...I never knew there was "another" De Rosa...and you guys have taught me a lot. Wonder if the seller in this thread even knew that there were two? It seems that it takes a quite well educated group of "bike nerds" to even know this!
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"It seems that it takes a quite well educated group of "bike nerds" to even know this"!
this is the right place! |
I never knew there was another deRosa either. But for $150, what the hell;it seems nice enough.
I also don't recognize the Campy derailleurs with the raised lettering in the casting. Which group is that? Where does it sit in the Campy hierarchy? |
Avanti. The bottom.
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