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Old 02-27-15, 06:49 AM
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Mistery bike identification

Hi guys,

I just bought an old bike from a classifieds site. It has seen better days (mostly the paint), but it intrigues me and i can't find any clues about what it is and who made it.
I has first gen dura ace drilled cranks, the rest of the parts are an assortment of dura ace and 600 (probably some of them were changed during its life) T
here's a reynolds 531 sticker AND an oria one, so at least one of them was put there by a previous owner.
The fork has shimano ends and it's anodized gold (dont know if original or over the previous chrome)

There's a squiggly .. something written on top of the BB shell, but i can't dechiper it.
36x24 BB threading, 26.4 seat post size

It was most likely repainted by a previous owner. There's a 'swiss finish' sticker on it, but i cant find anything about that. Also a "Painting u..dorf" sticker on the front

Any ideas?

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Old 02-27-15, 06:51 AM
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Old 02-27-15, 06:27 PM
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LOL, all those pics and not a single decent shot of the headbadge!

Probably not a repaint, I don't know many backyard bike mechanics that would do a complicated multi-phase paint job like that. Looks like quality stuff from the early 80's?
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Probably finished in Switzerland, so might just be made there, too, but doesn't appear to be any of the well-known Swiss makes (Mondia, Allegro, Cilo) and the Italian BB threading argues against that. The lugs are very widely used, the brake bridge a GPM (or Cinelli) and the dropouts look to be like those that were stamped with several brands but most typically Columbus. Since the forkends don't match the DOs it's probably a replacement fork so check carefully for front end collision damage. 26.4 seatpost might indicate metric 531 tubing (but weird for that to have Italian threading) make sure it's really the correct seatpost size...measure the outside diameters of 3 main tubes.
Looks like a decent bike!
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Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman
LOL, all those pics and not a single decent shot of the headbadge!
Pic number 3 doesn't do it for you?
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize
Pic number 3 doesn't do it for you?
Now, LOL at me the only one that wouldn't load for me. But looking at the thumbnail now, I guess that's what it is alright!
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Interesting!

The town on the head badge could be Urdorf, a Swiss town in the outskirts of Zürich.

I also found this ad: Vélo Swiss Finish Luongo track bicycle

"Swiss Finish" was phrase apparently used by Italcicli, a Zürich-based specialist in pimping bikes and parts, also known as ICS.

The gold-plated fork certainly fits that picture. In that case the Shimano stuff is definitely not original.

Maybe some of the members who are active on the regional forums, like @martl or @qd-s could shed some light on the matter?
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Brunner, are you Swiss? How about earning some good karma

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...ilitation.html

Looks like you've got a nice project on your hands.
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Whatever it its, it's kewl. Looks like a bike that someone lavished attention on, then passed on to another owner who used it as a beater/city bike. I like the paint job and wacky detailing.
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Originally Posted by non-fixie
Interesting!

The town on the head badge could be Urdorf, a Swiss town in the outskirts of Zürich.

I also found this ad: Vélo Swiss Finish Luongo track bicycle

"Swiss Finish" was phrase apparently used by Italcicli, a Zürich-based specialist in pimping bikes and parts, also known as ICS.

The gold-plated fork certainly fits that picture. In that case the Shimano stuff is definitely not original.

Maybe some of the members who are active on the regional forums, like @martl or @qd-s could shed some light on the matter?
I personally know next to nothing about Luongo.
There was one in a german forum i visit:

Klassiker des Monats 11/2008 - Seite 2


The verdict of a friend who is a swiss ex-pro and well connected in the cycling world was:

" Lungo is an Italian who is resident in switzerland some time know and who runs a large cycling store.
Most of the frames sold under his label were obought and very few made by himself. Not exactly a genius when it comes to frame building, rather an improviser.
Overall a very nice fellow who keeps equipping/sponsoring local teams"
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Am I seeing cracks around the points of the head lugs?


Looks like a very nicely made frame, tho'...

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Thank you for your prompt reply, martl. Much appreciated!

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I personally know next to nothing about Luongo.
There was one in a german forum i visit:

Klassiker des Monats 11/2008 - Seite 2


The verdict of a friend who is a swiss ex-pro and well connected in the cycling world was:

" Lungo is an Italian who is resident in switzerland some time know and who runs a large cycling store.
Most of the frames sold under his label were obought and very few made by himself. Not exactly a genius when it comes to frame building, rather an improviser.
Overall a very nice fellow who keeps equipping/sponsoring local teams"
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Thank you guys for the info
The bike is now at the LBS, I'll measure the tubes' OD when i get it back.

CMAW, no, i'm not swiss, the bike made its way somehow all the way to Romania.
rando_couche, it appears to be only a crack in the paint, but i'll check it out.
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Originally Posted by non-fixie
"Swiss Finish" was phrase apparently used by Italcicli, a Zürich-based specialist in pimping bikes and parts, also known as ICS.
Ooh, great hint.
I found that besides the 'swiss finish' thing, the ICS Magni headbadge is very similar to mine, so there's definately a connexion there
https://www.pedalroom.com/p/magni-exc...cs-10427_2.jpg

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It looks A LOT like my Gazelle Champion Mondial from mid 80s., altough this looks a little older. You most likely have a Campagnolo rear dropout. You can find more info here: Webklik.nl - the original Gazelle Champion Mondial

Some pictures of my bike, you find here (it's the red one, the yellow is a Gazelle Champion Mondial from the 90s): https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...1&l=4bb27437ad
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Originally Posted by Dizono
It looks A LOT like my Gazelle Champion Mondial from mid 80s., altough this looks a little older. You most likely have a Campagnolo rear dropout. You can find more info here: Webklik.nl - the original Gazelle Champion Mondial

Some pictures of my bike, you find here (it's the red one, the yellow is a Gazelle Champion Mondial from the 90s): https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...1&l=4bb27437ad
I saw one of these recently at a bike shop when it was in for service. It does look a LOT like it.
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It looks A LOT like my Gazelle Champion Mondial from mid 80s., altough this looks a little older. You most likely have a Campagnolo rear dropout. You can find more info here: Webklik.nl - the original Gazelle Champion Mondial
It does look very similar, but differs in some details, like the seat stay caps (wrap around on the Gazelle)
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It does look very similar, but differs in some details, like the seat stay caps (wrap around on the Gazelle)
It's made for over thirty years, so some changes have been made over time. My friends one is ten years newer and is much more different to my bike then yours does.
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That's definitely a unique-looking bike. I dig the paint scheme. I've no clue what it might be, but I did notice that the rear tire seems to be on backwards.
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