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Old 03-02-15, 08:50 PM
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Can anyone tell me about this frame?

My buddy was just given this bike and asked if I could help get it straightened out. Here's https://m.imgur.com/a/3fcvO an album of some of the notable features on the frame and I'm sorry I just realized no full frame shot was taken before dark. Anyways it seems to have all the features of well-made, late 80's, Italian steel but I've never heard of either of the two names, Ralf Jantzen and Ferrara, and Google searching is returning very few results.

Any info would be appreciated!
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The cutout on the BB makes me think it was contract built by Bilato in Italy. Is Ralf a former German racer or something? Looks like a nice bike, if it is a 59 and he doesn't want it ship it my way.

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Ralf Jantzen war Benotto importer in Halver, Sauerland, Germany. He had frames built under his own name in Italy. He went out of business early 90's. Top of the line bike is Michelangelo.
The silver black sticker is from a german Police Union ( Gewerkschaft der Polizei) the phrase " gut das sie da ist" means, it is good we are there.
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the BB shell is an investment-cast unit from Silva, probably helps to date this frame to approximately early '90s. I'm sure it was contract built by somebody (could be Billato, maybe not) quite competent as the the details are good ones. Not too many builders used Oria tubing back when it was available, Pinarello was perhaps the most well-known user.
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Thanks everyone, always fun to learn something about an obscure older frame
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