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Clydesdale Retul Body Geometry Fit?

Old 03-25-15, 09:33 PM
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Clydesdale Retul Body Geometry Fit?

Just curious if other Clydesdales/Athenas may have had a full "Retul Body Geometry" bike fitting and have found it to be of significant benefit to your general riding comfort and overall endurance ability?
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Old 03-26-15, 04:39 AM
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I recommend a more personal approach. Both of those systems are great, but geared more to power and efficiency than getting overweight people in the most comfortable position on the bike. There's probably a small store in your area with an old school fitter
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yes, I have done 3 of the BG/retul fittings... the first when I weighed 250lbs, I am now 166 lbs...
it made a world of difference in my comfort and performance...it is not a permenate fix and will need to be updated as you progress.
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Thanks for the insight. I've logged about 2k miles in the past year on a road bike (while losing 50 lbs. - down to 300) and just want to make sure I'm properly set-up so as not to do any long-term physical harm to my body. Have a BG fitting scheduled in a few days and have made to clear to the fitter that I am simply "fat man on bike" who wants to improve form and efficiency . . . Not shave 1/10's of seconds from time trials. Should be interesting!
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if the fitter is good, you will notice a difference....with a proper BG/Retul fit, you will spend as much or more time in the interview and flexibility test as you do on the bike...
they will talk to you about your fitness, any physical injuries, past surgeries, current riding experience and goals...all before you get on the bike. Each of my BG fitting took about 2 to 3 hours.
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Please report back as to the process, your impressions and end results. I think many people, including myself, are interested to hear.
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Ditto.
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have done one full and one touch up.

Like them.

I didnt seem to see much time in the flexibility test, but heck, who am I kiiding, at 50, being 6' 5" and overweight, just how flexible does the fitter expect me to be. He had me get on a table, did some flex test with my legs, had me do a plank for as long as I could hold it, asked me some general questions about goals, hours on the bike, type of riding I wanted to do etc and went to work

I suspect he spent well over two hours with me on the bike, tweaking this and that. Did the entire thing, even adjusting both my cleats and pedals...changed stems several times and tested each new config.

I was happy with the process.
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Originally Posted by vesteroid View Post
have done one full and one touch up.
How much extra "stuff" did you have to buy during the process?
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Did my Body Geometry bike fitting today at a large independent bike shop in central Florida that has three tenured/B.G. certified fitters on their staff.

I don't have any significant injury history nor am I having any serious pains/issues with my Specialized Secteur (Size L/56cm). It was made clear from the beginning that my goal is to improve general efficiency & longer distance comfort while ensuring that I am not riding in position that is apt to create physical issues in the future.

The first 1.5 hours were primarily a physical assessment of strengths, weaknesses and general agility (ankle, knee, hip flexation, shoulder rotation, etc.) Let's face it, even though I am in the best physical shape probably in my life - I'm still a 5'10", 300 lb., 54 yr. old guy - And I'm probably not their typical fitting client. But you would never know it from any of the fitter's attitudes, attention or consultation with myself and each other to every detail.

Next hour was on the bike and the first item everyone noticed was how my knees were splayed out and feet were trying to roll toward the outside of the pedals (Speedplay Frog), I concurred whole-heartedly. The addition of 20mm pedal post extenders brought an immediate "Oh yeah, THAT feels good, real good!" It was noted that size/weight has little to do with the need for pedal extenders - It is more of a bone structure issue.

Attention was turned to the seat post height. I had raised the seat bit recently at the suggestion of ride trainer who noticed my splayed knees. The fitters determined that saddle (Selle Anatomica) was a about 3cm too high and made adjustments for proper knee/leg angles while pedaling. Another "Ahh!" moment for myself. They also pointed out my exact sit-bone placement indentations on the saddle - Everything was very good there. (Interesting side note - The fitters concurred that they liked that the S.A. saddle but it wasn't cost efficient for the shop to sell due to S.A.'s annual winter saddle sale. Just sayin'!)

On to the cockpit, where I already had a shortened stem that I thought felt "pretty good". My stem was removed and their adjustable testing stem was installed for a a good half-hour of up/down/in/out, twisting bars/brifters up/down, etc. It was settled that a 75mm/24 stem (same length and a little higher than my current stem) created my most acceptable shoulder profile atop the bicycle.

It was also determined the stock handlebar width was fine with a proper "square" forward profile of my shoulders/arms and my ability to grasp the hoods/drops without any undue flexing of the wrist.

With the new stem in place and brifters twisted into a flat horizontal plane I continued pedaling and commented "This almost feels like riding a comfort bike" and almost in unison the fitters uttered their own version of "Every bike should feel like comfort bike when it fits!"

Have a couple of decent rides planned for the next couple of days . . . So you can be sure I'll check back in with any further details of note after a bit of time on the road.

Re: Parts Cost (an earlier poster had requested such) - The base fitting fee is $250 and with parts (Specialized brand stem, pedal extenders) was $300. As mentioned, I'll let ya' know if it feels "$300 better" soon!

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Old 03-28-15, 06:15 PM
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Great detailed report.
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Originally Posted by PhotoJoe View Post
How much extra "stuff" did you have to buy during the process?

nothing...all the stems etc he tried were his, and he told me what to go buy if I wanted to.
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OK, so note to self - specialized brand stuff is (@#&$## expensive! LOL.
@Jimbosays - you just got the regular BG fit, right? Not the fancy data analysis one?
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Old 03-30-15, 09:41 PM
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Great report Jimbo, thanks.
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@Jimbosays - you just got the regular BG fit, right? Not the fancy data analysis one?
Correct, the "regular" BG bike fitting (not with sensors all over your body.)

Rode 50 miles over the weekend . . . The higher stem and pedal spacers are of great benefit, I though I did twist the handlebars forward some because hands were getting numb. During the fitting I addressed the issue of the handlebars did not feel 'right', but was assured this was the 'proper' position. I will do a follow-up fit session in a week or so where I will further discuss the handlebar position issue.
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My shop has a BG "master fitter". She's a frigging bike fit whisperer. I highly endorse her work. I've got orthopedic issues that even Specialized was surprised to hear about, and I can ride because of the work she's done.
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