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Old 04-19-15, 08:12 AM
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Just for one week?

If you monitor rides for speed, distance, etc., don't monitor.

If you don't usually monitor rides, then give it a shot by keeping track in some fashion...

What do you think, too radical????



Anyway, I am going to try & remember to not turn on the cateye for the next couple. Cheers!
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Old 04-19-15, 08:19 AM
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just put electrical tape over the display. This is a trick some of us use in crit road races. You don't need to know how fast it's going, how long you been at 99% HR. You just need stick the wheel in front of you. Numbers just get in the way.
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I rode all winter "lights out" for the most part, Iphone swallows it's chew if it goes below 32F so I had to stash it inside layers. Unless I am on a "hard day" I do not try especially hard to keep a given speed or HR, if I am on an "easy day" I try to stay under 135HR but wind and hills sometimes screw with that goal :-).
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I have an inexpensive bike computer installed on my bike, it's functions: clock, speed, distance, time, and calories/fat burned. I don't pay attention to it at all on my rides, and only have it on to keep track of how many total miles I've put on my bike and distance in between repairs. The most I may look at is the clock function, speed and even distance doesn't matter until I'm off the bike.
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I have a simple approach to training. Barely requires a cycle computer at all.

4 easy fun rides and then one hard ride. Easy rides are 1.5 to 6 hours in length at a pace that I can just talk and smell the roses. Hills take discipline and a small gear to keep it easy on easy days. Most easy days are 2-3 hour rides. The hard ride (one of five rides in a cycle) consists of intervals of 8 minutes duration at very specific output levels and that is the only time that I stare at the display.....on these rides. (Polarized training)

If I start any ride and if I am not feeling loose and good by certain points, I turn around and come home. You only get stronger when your body is recovering. You break it down and then allow it to recover. Breaking it down before it recovers is often/usually counter productive, which is why staring at a cycle computer and pushing gears every ride does to many people.

I even think I am going to sell my Powertap G3 Zipp 404 wheelset....I personally do not see the value or fun having it on the bike. The only slight value is when trying to maintain contact with a group on a climb, power has no lag unlike HR.....it takes about 2 minutes or so before a high power output registers on the HR meter. The power data could theoretically allow you better pace on the climb or long individual TT. I can't see the value in downloading and analysing the data after each ride. How would you normalize for temperature, humidity, wind, etc.

The only real reason I have a Garmin 800 is for navigation, I can't read a cuesheet anymore.
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hard 42/52 11-24

medium 30/39/52 12-25

easy 26/36/48 11-34

same hilly routes
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"Don't monitor" Not going to happen for me.
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I don't really get the "turn off your cycling computer and instead have fun!" attitude that I hear sometimes. My use of a cycle computer and Strava adds fun to my ride, it doesn't take away from it.
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I'm very motivated by mileage. I dare say that if I didn't have a bike computer, I'd ride less miles.

Same goes for my wife. I bought her a FitBit for her walking and now she MUST get in her 10K steps a day. She even went walking in the rain yesterday.
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Originally Posted by dr_lha View Post
I don't really get the "turn off your cycling computer and instead have fun!" attitude that I hear sometimes. My use of a cycle computer and Strava adds fun to my ride, it doesn't take away from it.
I agree I'm a very competitive person, and not knowing if I got in the amount of incline I need or distance to beat a buddy on strava really takes away from my workouts. I know what most of my best strava segment times are on my local loop and push to beat them each time I ride. It's this type of motivation that really pushes me to get the best workout I can. Sadly I may not smell the roses, but my body is getting stronger and faster each time so it's not a bad sacrifice.
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Since we are training up to do the "Swiss Cheese and Spotted Cow" tour in WI which is 60ish miles a day mileage is very important to us. Strava just lets us see how we are improving and tells me where we are lacking, but the phone just rides along in my pack.
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I put the bike computer on the screen that shows my heart rate as I have high blood pressure. When my heart rate gets to about 160 I have to slow down or go easy until it gets to 150 and I feel like I can go again hard, and then I push my heart rate up to 165; rest, and then push it to 170, then rest, and sometimes push to 175 which given the formula of 220-age my max is 175. I do this to help build the heart muscle as I was sedentary for too many years.

doing this has allowed me to improve my distance, speed, hill climbs, and fighting against head winds. When I finish a ride I know I have done a workout as my lungs burn (I quit a 25 year smoking habit in November 2009), my heart feels like there has been a workout, and my whole body talks to me a bit, but not so bad that I can't go for a good ride the next day.
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Originally Posted by RR3 View Post
I have a simple approach to training. Barely requires a cycle computer at all.

4 easy fun rides and then one hard ride. Easy rides are 1.5 to 6 hours in length at a pace that I can just talk and smell the roses. Hills take discipline and a small gear to keep it easy on easy days. Most easy days are 2-3 hour rides. The hard ride (one of five rides in a cycle) consists of intervals of 8 minutes duration at very specific output levels and that is the only time that I stare at the display.....on these rides. (Polarized training)

If I start any ride and if I am not feeling loose and good by certain points, I turn around and come home. You only get stronger when your body is recovering. You break it down and then allow it to recover. Breaking it down before it recovers is often/usually counter productive, which is why staring at a cycle computer and pushing gears every ride does to many people.

I even think I am going to sell my Powertap G3 Zipp 404 wheelset....I personally do not see the value or fun having it on the bike. The only slight value is when trying to maintain contact with a group on a climb, power has no lag unlike HR.....it takes about 2 minutes or so before a high power output registers on the HR meter. The power data could theoretically allow you better pace on the climb or long individual TT. I can't see the value in downloading and analysing the data after each ride. How would you normalize for temperature, humidity, wind, etc.

The only real reason I have a Garmin 800 is for navigation, I can't read a cuesheet anymore.

I am guessing since you cant read a cue sheet anymore your around or over the 50 mark in age. I suggest you read fast after 50 as it completely disagrees with your training method.

As far as normalizing, it doesn't matter in my opinion, power is power...going on a flat, or climbing a 10% grade, power is power. Wind doesn't matter in relation to power....you may go slower in the wind at a given power, but watts are watts.
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I am guessing since you cant read a cue sheet anymore your around or over the 50 mark in age. I suggest you read fast after 50 as it completely disagrees with your training method.

As far as normalizing, it doesn't matter in my opinion, power is power...going on a flat, or climbing a 10% grade, power is power. Wind doesn't matter in relation to power....you may go slower in the wind at a given power, but watts are watts.

I was talking fun, you are talking science. I am well over the 50 year mark and am an engineer in some ways or at least I used to be.

I get to have fun on 4 out of 5 rides with polarized training. The fifth ride uses science, more specifically lactate level establishes my output. The power meter is just an extra boring appendage. I know how much power I make at MLSS (L4) and what my heart rate is or should be....and what it needs to be at 6-8 mmol lactate.

I am tired of technology.

I want to smell the flowers....at least 80% of the time. I might just leave the Garmin at home on these rides to see what it is like.
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If the tracking takes the fun away then by all means ditch the tracking. Tracking and the interface with social media have greatly added to the enjoyment, inspiration and motivation for me.

I can see the point for those that feel the tracking makes the ride more like work or a chore. I get that it needs to be fun or folks likely will not ride. To that end I'm in favor of keeping it fun.
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Interesting replies! I dig tracking but was wondering if "progress" might come in a variety of forms & ways, even if I usually would prefer to track.

I did do a short ride today, & from typically keeping my eye on RPMs, think I could tell pretty closely w/o the computer. Anyway, this thread gives me a few new ways to alternate, perhaps, and thanks all for the ideas.

jsigone reminded me of some track day techniques & RR3 seems to have some interesting variations in the regimen, too. All good.
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The battery of my road bike computer died. That was several years ago. Don't have any plans to replace it. My new ride should be ready in a few weeks. Not sure if I will put a computer on it.

Always tour with a computer as I like to know where I am on the day's route, especially if I am in new territory. I usually use I when I commute on the touring bike but only to have a general idea of how many miles I have ridden for the year, but the stats are meaningless from a training perspective.

In general, I don't train. I just like to ride my bikes for sport, transportation and travel.
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