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Old 05-11-15, 12:20 PM
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I need a rain jacket

We're doing a family cycling vacation in Tuscany at the beginning of June and since there is a ZERO percent chance I'll stop riding if it starts raining, I probably need to go prepared.

I'd ask on the skinny people board but you know how they are. "Oh, I love my brand X jacket in super slim size XS". I'm 6'2", 220# and wear a XXL jersey most of the time, so I'd probably start with XXL. I'd prefer something that folds up super tiny over something that is super water proof. It should be reasonably warm in June, so I just need to stay sort of warm and sort of dry more than be completely weatherproofed.

Any tips out there?
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Hmmm, I picked one up at LL Bean this past winter, but it must have been on clearance because I don't see it on their website. Aerotech will have something you can wear for sure though.

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I got a nice one with detachable hood at Performance
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I got a nice one with detachable hood at Performance
Out of curiosity, why would a cycling jacket have a hood?
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So you can wear it during other pursuits, such as hiking?
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REI is having a sale starting mid-May. If you can live with a non-cycling specific jacket, marmot precip jackets will be on sale. I use one for commuting. Not a bad jacket and the price in the sale will be very reasonable.
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Originally Posted by dr_lha View Post
Out of curiosity, why would a cycling jacket have a hood?

Guessing so so you can put on your head under your helmet or just on your head if you go without?
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Originally Posted by Beachgrad05 View Post
Guessing so so you can put on your head under your helmet or just on your head if you go without?
Interesting. It was a genuine question FYI, I've never seen a cycling specific waterproof with a hood before. That said I don't have much chance to shop around where I live, as there are only 3 places to get cycling clothes, 2 don't cater for Clydes and the other is Dicks.
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Originally Posted by dr_lha View Post
Interesting. It was a genuine question FYI, I've never seen a cycling specific waterproof with a hood before. That said I don't have much chance to shop around where I live, as there are only 3 places to get cycling clothes, 2 don't cater for Clydes and the other is Dicks.
Understood. It might also be a more around the neighborhood sort of jacket...it even has a tail thing that prevents the stripe up your back according to description. I immediately removed the hood. LOL I got this for a ride last Feb that it was suppose to rain on us for plus the upcoming AIDS ride might have rain and I don't want to be unprepared. I never wore it on the ride in Feb as it ended up just cloudy.

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Originally Posted by bikemig View Post
REI is having a sale starting mid-May. If you can live with a non-cycling specific jacket, marmot precip jackets will be on sale. I use one for commuting. Not a bad jacket and the price in the sale will be very reasonable.
That looks interesting, particularly the part where you can fold it up into one of it's own pockets. Does that mean it'll fit inside a jersey pocket and how's the fit when cycling?

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Understood. It might also be a more around the neighborhood sort of jacket...it even has a tail thing that prevents the stripe up your back according to description. I immediately removed the hood. LOL I got this for a ride last Feb that it was suppose to rain on us for plus the upcoming AIDS ride might have rain and I don't want to be unprepared. I never wore it on the ride in Feb as it ended up just cloudy.

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Same Q for you - can you fold it up into a jersey pocket?

I do have an old jacket I bought at performance a billion years ago for night riding (the fabric lights up like the sun when headlights hit it, which is great) but it's one size too big for me now and flaps in the wind, never mind the total lack of breathability. So I can always go with that but I'd prefer something better.

It seems like clothing for hikers is much more lightweight and packable than cycling outerwear.
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Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
That looks interesting, particularly the part where you can fold it up into one of it's own pockets. Does that mean it'll fit inside a jersey pocket and how's the fit when cycling?



Same Q for you - can you fold it up into a jersey pocket?

I do have an old jacket I bought at performance a billion years ago for night riding (the fabric lights up like the sun when headlights hit it, which is great) but it's one size too big for me now and flaps in the wind, never mind the total lack of breathability. So I can always go with that but I'd prefer something better.

It seems like clothing for hikers is much more lightweight and packable than cycling outerwear.
I don't think you can fold the marmot precip jacket in its own pocket but I could be wrong. A lot of rain jackets don't fit that well into a jersey pocket in any case. The fit is fine for cycling. It's a pretty good sale price; I bought one last year for commuting with during a sale and have used it extensively. I have a different rain jacket I bring with me on training rides (a sugoi) but it doesn't fit into a jersey pocket either.
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Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
That looks interesting, particularly the part where you can fold it up into one of it's own pockets. Does that mean it'll fit inside a jersey pocket and how's the fit when cycling?



Same Q for you - can you fold it up into a jersey pocket?


I do have an old jacket I bought at performance a billion years ago for night riding (the fabric lights up like the sun when headlights hit it, which is great) but it's one size too big for me now and flaps in the wind, never mind the total lack of breathability. So I can always go with that but I'd prefer something better.

It seems like clothing for hikers is much more lightweight and packable than cycling outerwear.
I have not yet tried.
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my rain jacket is not easy to fold but stays very dry under

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Making plans to do 2-3 weeks on a bike in France this summer and need a good lightweight, packable jacket as well.

Picked up (and returned) one of these, and while I found it to be a very nice, light, breathable, pack into a zippered pocket style . . . It also has a huge hood - Which is neither detachable, nor has a "stowaway" pouch. (Though the hood would comfortably fit over most helmets!)

I'm really looking for more of general 'all around' lightweight, waterproof jacket that will be appropriate for a casual, cooler evening dinner stroll or stand up to a rain storm on the bike if needed.

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Trojan Horse needs a big rain jacket. Too funny.
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I am not sure I would want a non bike specific rain jacket. Here me out. Sure, any jacket can keep you dry - rain jacket that is. But, I have noticed that the cut and features seem slightly different on bike jackets than on others. If you can find the features you are looking for then any other rain jacket could work, to me. I wonder how many have rear pockets large enough for your gear, water bottles, etc.. Haven't noticed rear pockets before on any other sport specific jacket unless you include duck hunting jackets. I see the value in them. Also, not all might be stow-able. Thirdly, I have seen vents on them to release some of the sweat and get some cooling air in. Not sure at riding speeds all rain jackets have the vents in places where water will not get in, are facing the right direction and are sized well. Bike jackets tend to be cut tighter so they do not act like parachutes and often have a drop tail like a tuxedo to cover your rear to protect it from the splash up from the rear tire.

All are good reasons to get a bike specific one.

As for rain jackets, I like the Altura and Endura and Shower Pass jackets. I like the Altura Night Vision Evo, Endura Lumilite 2 and several Shower Pass. Sorry, I do not think these are packable but I m sure they might have ones you would like. I think the best rated rain jacket, if you have the money is by Castelli.

Might want to look here for some reviews: Buyer?s guide: Waterproof cycling jackets | road.cc

It lists some that are packable and rather well priced too.

Best of luck and let us know what you end up getting.

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I have this one and hate it...

Men's ELITE Barrier Clear Jacket - Pearl Izumi

Folds up very small and keeps the rain out, but I heat up and basically just steam the entire ride. I actually take it off and let it hang dry because it's just soaked in sweat so I end up completely wet anyway.
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LGHT,
I that is the nature of the beast. To keep water out, you also are keeping water (sweat) in. Not sure how many reasonable priced ones breath well. I have heard that the Rapha and I think Castelli work great but at that price, they better help pedal too.
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I that is the nature of the beast. To keep water out, you also are keeping water (sweat) in.
Never heard of Gore-tex? It's pretty breathable and very waterproof. Also expensive.
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I have and I have read it is not the perfect solution.

Why Does Rain Gear Wet Out? | Section Hikers Backpacking Blog

According to the article,

[h=3]What is Wet Out?[/h]Wet Out occurs when your rain gear stops venting perspiration because the humidity outside your jacket is higher than on the inside. During sustained rain or drizzle, your perspiration accumulates on the inside side of the your rain garments and will gradually soak your inner layers. It doesn’t matter if your rain gear is made out of Gore-tex, eVent, Tyvek, Nylon or some other breathable membrane, all rain gear will wet out, sooner or later.
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As I recall the last time you went cycling whilst on vacation you got an awesome bike to ride.
Here's hoping you have a better selection this time and take some pink bar tape
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Bike specific definitely has advantages, and cheap rain jackets tend to work like a 30 gallon plastic garbage bag, which is basically how my existing jacket works. Oh sure, it's vented but the sleeves stick to my arms once I start sweating. I don't see spending $300 on a "it might rain but it might not" jacket.

This one looks interesting - Craft Featherlight Jacket - Men | Competitive Cyclist

It seems like a lot of the rain jackets I'm finding are really fall / winter jackets and I don't think I want anything with any insulation.

Thanks for the link @Fly2High - the dhb cosmo also looks interesting but it also looks unavailable in the US. I still think I'll try to hit REI this weekend and see what's available. I'm not averse to a lightweight hiking jacket as long as it's snug. Don't really need pockets, that's what the jersey is for.
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I have and I have read it is not the perfect solution.

Why Does Rain Gear Wet Out? | Section Hikers Backpacking Blog

According to the article,
That's a pretty negative view point IMHO, it's a bit like saying don't bother wearing a bullet proof vest because someone might have armor piercing rounds. Although you can't avoid that eventually, you go a lot longer before it happens using Gore-tex than you do using a regular nylon waterproof.

If you're looking for the "perfect solution" there simply isn't one.
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As I recall the last time you went cycling whilst on vacation you got an awesome bike to ride.
Here's hoping you have a better selection this time and take some pink bar tape
Lookit this fine machine! What a wobbly POS but it was fun to be able to go for a ride every day, regardless. And the beach in Florida was pancake flat, which is a good thing because I think only 3 cogs in the back worked and shifting the front was an exercise in patience. Biopace chainrings too, or some kind of ovoid chainring.



The rentals we'll have in Italy are titanium (I've heard they were made by airborne, no idea) with ultegra triples. I was going to upgrade to an S-works roubaix but I took that money and bought my self a birthday present, so standard bike for me.
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LGHT,
I that is the nature of the beast. To keep water out, you also are keeping water (sweat) in. Not sure how many reasonable priced ones breath well. I have heard that the Rapha and I think Castelli work great but at that price, they better help pedal too.
Yeah I realized that AFTER I purchased it. It does work and keeps the rain out, but only for a period of time then I have to open it and let it breath a little.

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Never heard of Gore-tex? It's pretty breathable and very waterproof. Also expensive.
I considered it, but it doesn't rain often enough in Cali to warrant the costs.
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