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Old 05-20-15, 04:35 AM
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Newbie UK Athena Beginner

Hi everyone

I'm Emily, I came across this forum when searching for bikes suitable for people over 300lbs and have been a long time lurker and decided to take the plunge this morning and register. I currently weigh 356lbs (as of this morning) and wanted to start bike riding to try and help shift the weight a bit quicker. For the time being I just plan to ride on quiet roads and cycle paths, so nothing that would be too rough on a bike.

I originally looked at a cheap Raleigh mountain bike, but after seeing their user weight limit (which terrified me), reading the extensive advice on here and a heart to heart with my husband he has said that we can look at extending the budget to something that is better built and better equipped to deal with my weight. So after looking around and lots of research I am currently stuck between 2 brands that seem to have bikes within my budget - Scott and Giant and was wondering what people's preference were? I did want to try Trek but their bikes were just way out of our budget.

I haven't got a clue what technical specification means (hopefully that will improve with time), but did seem to get the idea that double walled rims are a good thing when considering my size and that's something that I have been looking out for. I know it will often depend on personal preference and at the moment the Giant Liv Tempt 4 is the one that stands out the most to me and was wondering if someone more experienced could have a look at the below specifications and see what they think?

Frame - ALUXX-Grade Aluminum
Fork - SR Suntour XCT HLO, 100mm travel
Handlebar - Giant Connect Low Riser
Stem - Giant Sport, 15 degree rise
Seatpost - Giant Sport 30.9mm
Saddle - Liv Connect Upright
Pedals - MTB Caged
Shifters - Shimano Altus 24 speed
Front Derailleur - Shimano Altus
Rear Derailleur - Shimano Acera
Brakes - Tektro HDC 290 Women's Specific hydraulic disc 160mm
Brake Levers - Tektro HDC 290 WS
Cassette - Shimano HG31 11-34
Chain - KMC Z8
Crankset - SR Suntour NEX, 24/34/42
Bottom Bracket - SR Suntour Cartridge BB
Rims - Giant CR70 Double Wall
Hubs - Giant Tracker Sport
Spokes - Stainless Steel
Tyres - Giant Sport 27.5x2.1"

Thanks in advance
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Welcome!

The forks will not function properly given your current weight. You would need to lock them out. Other than that, the bike will be fine. Are you already doing some sort of exercise? If not, I recommend you start by doing a lot of walking before you start cycling. I donít think you should start cycling without discussing it with a doctor first.

Whatever you do, donít give up! Once you are on the bike, you will love it!
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I'm not doing a massive amount of exercise at the moment, but I am trying to build up the amount of walking that I do with the dog each day As well as following a diet plan to help the weight come off too

I wasn't planning on throwing myself into cycling stupid amounts each day, just taking it very slowly to begin with and gradually building it up from there. I've been considering it for a while so spoke to my Dr last time I had a check up and she said as long as I don't push myself too hard then it shouldn't be a problem
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Hi and welcome from a UK clyde,

There's loads of advice and help here and I can personally attest to the effects of getting the cycling bug. I'm a newb myself so i can't help with technical side but I can cheer you on. If you've got a smartphone you might want to get a an app like map my fitness /map my ride to help manage your diet and log your improvement as you go along, also don't forget to talk to your doctor about what you are doing.

Above all, don't worry if your slow at first you'll get better, start slow enjoy the ride and you'll be able to increase speed and distance as you burn off your fat.

welcome again

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whoops sorry I wrote this before I saw your last reply
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Also forgot to say, thanks for the warm welcome and advice/support I've received already, it's very much appreciated
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Welcome to the forum. Good luck on buying a bike, and getting out there and riding it.

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Well the hubby has said we can stretch to the Tempt 3 if it's going to be more long wearing, but I haven't a clue how much better these specs are and if they're worth the extra cost. Or is there something else that I'm totally missing that could bump this off my current top spot?

Frame: ALUXX-Grade Aluminium
Fork: SR Suntour XCM HLO, 100mm travel, coil spring
Stem: Giant Sport, 15 degree rise
Speed: 27
Front Mech: Shimano Altus
Rear Mech: Shimano Alivio
Chainset: FSA Dynadrive, 22/32/42
Bottom Bracket: FSA Cartridge BB
Cassette: Shimano HG20 11-34
Chain: KMC X9 w/ Missing Link
Front Brake: Tektro HDC 290 Women|s Specific hydraulic disc 160mm
Rear Brake: Tektro HDC 290 Women|s Specific hydraulic disc 160mm
Rims: Giant CR70 Double Wall
Front Hub: Giant Tracker Sport
Rear Hub: Giant Tracker Sport
Tyres: Giant Sport 27.5x2.1 Front Giant Sport 27.5x2.1 Rear
Seatpost: Giant Sport 30.9mm
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Originally Posted by EmmyW1984 View Post
Well the hubby has said we can stretch to the Tempt 3 if it's going to be more long wearing, but I haven't a clue how much better these specs are and if they're worth the extra cost. Or is there something else that I'm totally missing that could bump this off my current top spot?
It looks like the Tempt 3 is a little bit better bike. It has the following features over the Tempt 4.

Alivio Rear Derailleur vs. Acera.
9 speeds in rear vs. 8 speeds
22 tooth granny gear in front vs. 24 tooth granny gear

If there are a lot of big hills in your area, the 22 tooth crankset will probably be helpful. Other than that, it's some incremental improvements. It looks like both bikes used the same frame, front fork, and hubs.

I don't think there would be much difference in durability between the bikes.

If the difference in price is small, or you have a lot of hills, then the Tempt 3 would probably be better for you. If not, the Tempt 4 would be the better bargain.

Note: On either bike, you might want to ask the store about the wheels, and whether they will support your weight, or whether you might need some sturdier wheels. The wheels are normally the weak points for Super Clydes/Athenas. The specs don't say anything about spokes per wheel. You'll probably want 28/32 or 32/36 spokes per front/rear wheel. And before you leave, have them check the tension on the spokes to make sure that they are evenly tensioned. The wheels will probably be true, but if the tension isn't even, that could lead to spoke problems, also.

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Originally Posted by ColaJacket View Post
It looks like the Tempt 3 is a little bit better bike. It has the following features over the Tempt 4.

Alivio Rear Derailleur vs. Acera.
9 speeds in rear vs. 8 speeds
22 tooth granny gear in front vs. 24 tooth granny gear

If there are a lot of big hills in your area, the 22 tooth crankset will probably be helpful. Other than that, it's some incremental improvements. It looks like both bikes used the same frame and front fork.

If the difference in price is small, or you have a lot of hills, then the Tempt 3 would probably be better for you. If not, the Tempt 4 would be the better bargain.

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Thank you

Yes the price difference is quite small and we do have a lot of hills in the area, so I think the Tempt 3 is going to be my choice

Quite excited about this now and can't wait to get out there.
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Originally Posted by EmmyW1984 View Post
Thank you

Yes the price difference is quite small and we do have a lot of hills in the area, so I think the Tempt 3 is going to be my choice

Quite excited about this now and can't wait to get out there.
I did edit my previous post with a note on the wheels/spokes. Make sure you talk to the dealer about that.

Good luck on your purchase. Make sure to road test the bikes, and ask them to do a basic fit on the bike for you. And make sure that hubby left room in the budget for a helmet. It's the one accessory that you need to make sure you have. I'd also recommend gloves, tire fix kit (including at least one tube), pump(s) (floor model for home, and small hand or CO2 pump for the road). Other things can come later.

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The reason that you need a lockout on the front fork is that your weight will just push the fork down and leave your wrists at a bad angle. Both of the models you mentioned say they have a lockout on the fork, so that should be good.

One of my daughters has a Giant bike, and it's a very sturdy bike that has held up well over the years (we bought it secondhand and my older daughter used it for two years until she outgrew it, then handed it down to her sister who may never outgrow it).

One issue that you may have is figuring out if you're able to breathe while you're on the bike...not getting short of breath during exercise, but having the handlebars about the same height as the saddle makes you have to lean forward, which can make it hard for a bigger person to breathe properly. I was riding when I was about 360 lbs and I went through several bikes before I found the right one...the first one was comfortable but had a suspension fork with no lockout, so it was good for the first couple of miles and then my hands would go numb. The second one was a really basic mountain bike, with the seat and handlebars pretty much level with each other. I'm short...5'4" with a very big chest and short arms...so maybe that's why I had such a problem, but I really couldn't breathe leaning forward at that angle. I did okay riding around the block, but any further than that I would start to feel really bad.

You'll probably find that riding the bike is easier exercise than walking because it doesn't put the same strain on your knees and hips.
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Thank you for explaining about the lockout Judi, it's very much appreciated.

It's nice to hear about someone who can confirm how sturdy a bike is through their own personal experience

ColaJacket a helmet is the first thing that I'll be purchasing after the bike. I'm going to have a look into local bike stores and see where the closest is that stocks Giant
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Or there's a 2014 Trek Skye that I've found, I'm not sure if this will be strong enough, I'm assuming the 36h means 36 spokes or am I wrong?

Frame:WSD Geometry, Alpha Silver Aluminium, w/disc-compatible dropouts, replaceable derailleur hanger
Fork:SR Suntour M-3030 w/WSD Rider Right coil spring, preload, 75mm travel
Front Derailleur:Shimano Tourney
Rear Derailleur:Shimano Tourney TX35
Number of Gears:21
Shifters:Shimano Tourney, 7-speed twist
Chainset:Shimano M131 w/chainguard
Chainrings:48/38/28T
Cassette:Shimano TZ31 14-34, 7 speed
Pedals:Wellgo nylon platform
Brakeset:Tektro alloy linear-pull brakes w/adjustable-reach alloy levers
Handlebars:Bontrager Riser, 25.4mm, 30mm rise
Stem:Bontrager Forged, 25.4mm, 40 degree
Headset:1-1/8" threadless
Grips:Bontrager SSR
Wheelset:Formula FM21 alloy front hub; Formula FM31 alloy rear hub w/Bontrager AT-550 36-hole rims
Front Tyre:Bontrager LT3, 26◊2.0″
Rear Tyre:Bontrager LT3, 26◊2.0″
Saddle:Bontrager SSR WSD
Seatpost:Bontrager SSR, 31.6mm, 12mm offset

Edited to add - sorry for all of the questions, but thanks to some unforseen circumstances I need to lower the budget and as I just want something to ride on roads and cycle paths am hoping that this will do until I can afford to buy a bike with better components once some of the weight has come off

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Trek bikes are good and solid too, but if there's no lockout on the front fork, you should skip it.

Have you thought about looking for a used bike? You probably will want a different bike once you've lost some weight, and so buying used might make sense.
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I've been looking everywhere possible for a used bike, but nothing as of yet. I can keep looking in the meantime as I've got roughly 4 weeks until I ideally want one as we're heading away for the weekend and there's a lovely cycle path that I've been eager to have a go on for quite a while now.
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Went to our LBS this morning and they have a 2014 Cannondale Tango 6 with 29" wheels for sale that I quite liked the fit of. The only thing I'm concerned about is will the 29" wheels hold my weight (353 this morning - it's starting to drop off now I've got a good diet plan in place)? Or would I be better holding out for the Giant Tempt 3 (27.5 wheels), which I also liked the fit of (it's just a higher price so would need to be saved for as our budget won't stretch that far straight away)? And that's if the perfect used bike doesn't come up in the meantime.

The info below is for the Cannondale.

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[TD]2014
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[TH]Frame[/TH]
[TD]Tango 29, Optimized 6061 alloy, SAVE, 1 1/8" headtube[/TD]
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[TH]Forks[/TH]
[TD]SR Suntour XCT, 80mm, size-specific coil spring, lockout, 1-1/8"[/TD]
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[TH]Rear Derailleur[/TH]
[TD]Shimano Acera[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: tr1"]
[TH]Front Derailleur[/TH]
[TD]Shimano M190, 31.8 clamp[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: tr0, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"]
[TH]Shifters[/TH]
[TD]Shimano M310 Rapidfire Plus[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: tr1"]
[TH]Chainset[/TH]
[TD]Shimano M171, 42/34/24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: tr0, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"]
[TH]Bottom Bracket[/TH]
[TD]Tange Cartridge[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: tr1"]
[TH]Chain[/TH]
[TD]KMC Z51, 8-speed[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: tr0, bgcolor: #EEEEEE"]
[TH]Freewheel[/TH]
[TD]Sunrace CSM668, 11-34, 8-speed[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: tr1"]
[TH]Headset[/TH]
[TD]Tange Si, 1-1/8"[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TH]Stem[/TH]
[TD]Cannondale C4, 31.8, 7 deg.[/TD]
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[TH]Handlebars[/TH]
[TD]Cannondale C4, 6061 alloy, 20mm rise, 640mm[/TD]
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[TH]Front Brake[/TH]
[TD]Decipher hydraulic disc, 160mm[/TD]
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[TH]Rear Brake[/TH]
[TD]Decipher hydraulic disc, 160mm[/TD]
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[TH]Rims[/TH]
[TD]Alex DC 5.0 29, double wall, 32-hole[/TD]
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[TH]Front Hub[/TH]
[TD]Cannondale C4 Disc[/TD]
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[TH]Rear Hub[/TH]
[TD]Cannondale C4 Disc[/TD]
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[TH]Spokes[/TH]
[TD]Stainless, 14g[/TD]
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[TH]Tyres[/TH]
[TD]WTB Nine Line, 29X2.0"[/TD]
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[TH]Saddle[/TH]
[TD]Cannondale Women's Ergo XC[/TD]
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[TH]Seatpost[/TH]
[TD]Cannondale C4, 27.2x350mm[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: tr1"]
[TH]Pedals[/TH]
[TD]Cannondale Platform[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TH]Grips[/TH]
[TD]Cannondale Dual-Density[/TD]
[/TR]
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You should be fine with the 29-inch tires given that they're 2" wide (and the wheels have 32 spokes). You'll probably want to run the tires (tyres) at or near the maximum inflation listed on their sidewall. The gearing looks good on the Cannondale -- lots of range (the 24 in front with 34 in back should get you up most hills). If it fits you well, I say it's time to buy and ride!

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Welcome Emily you have found a home here with lots of loving wonderful people. I was 352 when I came here (now 197) and the first thing I did was read every post on the forum going back years to convince myself that I could lose the weight. I wanted to be able to do the rides that I had done 20 years before and I found that low gears made all the difference. Currently I have 22/42 chain ring and 12...42 cassette on my old road bike. Its allowed me to do hills even when I was heavy.


Anyway good luck and welcome.


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