dr_lha

Sure. However, my point is, with the Archetypes I spent a good five minutes looking at the rims and I cannot identify where the join is. Even on the Deep-V rim I have with no lip issue, the join is very obvious.

vesteroid

Ill only throw in one piece of advice. I have been every where between 270 and 211 on wheels and looking at training peaks have about 4800 miles on bikes over a couple of years. I never wrote down which wheel set I used on which ride, but by far the most miles were on a hand built set of belgium c2 rims 32/32 with cxray spokes and dt swiss hubs.

My point is not to use the same rims, but that they were built by sugar wheel works. They never and I mean never came out of true, even a little bit. I am also not necessarily suggesting using Jude to build wheels, but really finding a shop that builds wheels all day every day vs the local shop who build 2 sets a month, yet call themselves wheel builders, is key in my opinion.

I think I am currently too heavy to trust riding my carbon rims, so i am going back to jude to build another training set (I sold my other ones to fund my carbons).

schnee

I ride these on my road/cross bike, with 36 spokes to King hubs.

I've had them when I was as heavy as 320, and now when I'm closer to 270.

They have held up perfectly, requiring only the occasional spoke re-tensioning. And that's with me carrying 30 pounds of crap in my backpack, cranking up a 25% grade in SF (and barely surviving it). Also, with me throwing 42c tires on and picking my way through single track that requires hitting some rocks, small drops, and negotiating though tight switchbacks at grade.

I swear by 'em. Best strength-to-weight of any road/cross rim I've tried, and a nice width to run 32c-45c tires.

I think they're one of the best weight-to-strength rims with brake tracks you can get. They look sweet too.

illusiumd

I got this set delivered today and now I'm quasi-regretting it. From the photo it looked to me like they were 3x but they're 2x. I fluctuate between 220 and 230 - wondering if these will hold up.

dr_lha

Well I put 1000 miles on these last year, ranging from 250-240lbs, and they're still dead true.

illusiumd

Graci - I'm just going to go with these and ride without worry. I need to learn how to build my own wheels anyhow - I figure all the time I spent researching and fretting - I could have begun learning for myself.

Jarrett2

I just bought a set of these Velomine 105 laced HPS Archtypes and they went out of true at about 50 miles. That's not a big deal to me as every set of wheels I've ever owned did that sans my Joe Young Wheels.

I trued them back up today after the ride. If they settle in and stay true after 200 miles and some tuning, I'll be happy with them.

Getting lots of compliments on the looks. Going to miss the black brake track when it goes.

shelbyfv

Same here with some Velomine Ultegra/Open Pros. Don't think they had been stress relieved at all. No problems after I re-tensioned them and I couldn't have bought the components for the price. A decent deal but you can't assume they are ready to ride as delivered.

illusiumd

Yes, if you're comfortable re-tensioning/truing wheels these are a great deal ... someday I'll learn how to do all that ... once my kids get a little older

Jarrett2

I gave these wheels a complete retentsioning and added some spoke prep on the NDS to keep things tight. I just put a hard 50 miles on miles on them this morning with lots of gravel, mud, potholes, rough ass Texas chipseal and they stayed true start to finish.

I'm happy with them. I have just over 200 miles on them thus far and hoping they last me 5,000 miles or more.

dgdosen

How are the Velomine Archtype/Shimano 105s out of the box? Do they need trueing?

SHBR

How much is your time worth?

For that labor cost, I could easily source the tools and find the time to teach myself how to build my own wheels.

Start with an old wheel, disassemble completely, and reassemble, follow Sheldon Browns instructions.

If you can get an old wheel to be useable, (holds tension, stays true) new components will be a cakewalk.

Jarrett2

It really depends on your size/weight/power and which version you get. For me, the 32 spoke rear wheel went out of true after 50 miles or so, then I went through and gave it a full truing. I'm at 500 miles now or so and its fine. Others (who are lighter than I am) have reported no need for truing.