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Old 06-23-16, 01:49 PM
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Ugghhhh ---

here's my 2 week update

weight loss seemed to progress but stalled out and I have lost nothing further in over a week

-------- I'm close to 30 pounds down from my peak , but have a long way to go

I mentioned earlier that I was still hitting the suds fairly regularly and a recent life event (wife of 14 years decided to move out ) has made me guzzle the brews with even more gusto

Seeing the stall -out though suggests I need to nip the beer in the bud now ---- but diet has also been fairly high in fat, with plenty of avocadoes and whole milk cheese -- so I could cut my cheese consumption in half and see what that does as well

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Congrats on your progress so far!
It's funny how I was just thinking about getting rid of all pasta, bread, rice, grains and sugar and then I come across your thread. Kinda reminds me of a paleo diet too.
I'll look into it.

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Hi, I am a huge fan of Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino.

I noticed you said you missed pizza. Anna has an awesome kick ass pizza recipe called "The Ultimate Fathead pizza. I faithfully listen to every podcast since the 200's.

I practice NSNG which is what Vinnie Preaches. I also practice Intermittent Fasting.

My two must reads:
Vinnie Tortorich - Fitness Confidential
Dr. Jason Fung - The Obesity Code.
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I'm a diabetic that is now on insulin and I've been decreasing my carbs and this gives me a push to decrease them more. I mostly eat vegetables for the carbs, with some dairy and um, the occasional Snickers mini ice cream bar (9 carbs). I don't drink anything but caffeine free diet pepsi, but I've decided in the last few weeks to get back into training hardcore (I did a triathlon in 2011, got injured, got better, got sick, got better, and am now released to train). I want to do wonderful things compared to my times in 2011 but there's no way I can cut my time in half at 288lbs. Something's got to give and I guess it'll be my Snickers mini ice cream bars. Siiiiiiigh.
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Paleo dieters eat sweeteners, they just use natuaral sweeteners like Honey.

That does not work for me, I am T2D!

I believe in order to really change your eating habits, you have to stop the sweeteners, the sugar the fake ****. It worked for me. I use to drink my coffee with vanilla creamer and spleda, I was never able to walk past the candy in the checkout aisle.

When I gave up eating All grains and all food, that contains sugar as an added ingredient, it was a struggle, it was a fight. Eventually my cravings for sweet things totally went away. I now take my coffee with a tiny bit of HWC, and I don't bother with the candy in junk food in the checkout lane.

My major fight was diet soda, I loved it. I Switched to plain club soda, that I would add some lemon or lime juice too. This worked for me.
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My major fight was diet soda, I loved it. I Switched to plain club soda, that I would add some lemon or lime juice too. This worked for me.
I drink literally gallons of Perrier and Pellegrino --- I don't stress out too much about a diet soda and really enjoy a diet root beer occasionally, -- but for the most part its sparkling waters of all varieties

I heard about a carbonizer that lets you carbonate tap water if you need to -- if I can find it, I will likely make the investment if its cheaper per week than a couple of cases of Perrier
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I drink literally gallons of Perrier and Pellegrino --- I don't stress out too much about a diet soda and really enjoy a diet root beer occasionally, -- but for the most part its sparkling waters of all varieties

I heard about a carbonizer that lets you carbonate tap water if you need to -- if I can find it, I will likely make the investment if its cheaper per week than a couple of cases of Perrier
I highly recommend it.

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Sodium is not harmful, in fact they are finding that reducing sodium too low CAUSES health issues. Active people who sweat a lot, and who replace that fluid with water NEED sodium, and can get very sick and even die without it, literally drowning in pure water with no electrolytes.
Potassium is an electrolyte. So if you have been prescribed a low-sodium diet then you can use potassium-based electrolytes and not worry about hyponatremia. My neurotologist wants me on "as low sodium of a diet as you can stand".

(That being said, I did that for 3 months with no change in symptoms so I said it wasn't worth it.)

[QUOTE-Willbird]Once you are obese, you may be screwed as far as that goes, now if a person did that BEFORE coming Obese it might save them from that fate.[/QUOTE]

This is truth. And we don't know what the reality is. I seem to gain weight at a calorie level that should be not really possible. My metabolism has definitely slowed down from what it used to be - more than just "you have less mass to support". If you're coming from a place of severe obesity like I was (460) then I'd say make sure your expectations are realistic.
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Originally Posted by NYSteve View Post
Hi, I am a huge fan of Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino.

I noticed you said you missed pizza. Anna has an awesome kick ass pizza recipe called "The Ultimate Fathead pizza. I faithfully listen to every podcast since the 200's.

I practice NSNG which is what Vinnie Preaches. I also practice Intermittent Fasting.

My two must reads:
Vinnie Tortorich - Fitness Confidential
Dr. Jason Fung - The Obesity Code.

That crust design sounds good -- and do-able ! The cauliflower crust sounds like it takes some advanced kitchen skills , but i'm going to try this one tonight

As I mentioned earlier in the thread -- NSNG has been the only thing that has worked for me --- i'm a believer

ITs working ---- and I still drink a handful of Michelob Ultras every couple of days

I would prefer to lose slowly and let myself acclimate as I go down anyway --- but I have a big ride in September so at a certain point , I am going to drop the beer and cheese for a couple of weeks and see where that leads us
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That crust design sounds good -- and do-able ! The cauliflower crust sounds like it takes some advanced kitchen skills , but i'm going to try this one tonight
It is delicious!
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It is delicious!
I'll give a quick ride report --- I am skipping some pics -- Instead of buying almond meal, I just ground up a batch of almonds in a vita mix ---it made a huge mess

but---

here is the bare almond meal/mozzarella crust fresh out of the oven





I am starting to add some toppings --- I did this on a whim so I took some regulation low sodium no sugar tomato sauce and added a bunch of Italian herbs and **** to make a pizza sauce --- then tossed the spinach leaves on before the cheese (put them on after and the leaves burn at the edges )



End result -- used some no preservative no GMO pepperoni and sausage from NAtural Grocers (they support a domestic cycling team-- so its a bit spendy there, but Its ok )

I'm gonna beg for style points for the Park pizza cutter and Newmans olive oil



The end result from this "newly separated" guy who is an amateur in the kitchen is a heavy load of dishes --- but man --- I haven't had pizza in a while


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OMG --- this is good ! -- link to the crust recipe below

I CAN EAT PIZZA OCCASIONALLY ON NSNG !!

Note to my fellow Clydes --- definitely not a low calorie recipe! -- this recipe uses almond meal and lots of cheese --- but I have been on the program since I started this thread basically --- its nice to have this alternative on a cheat day (well--- if a guy could limit himself to 1 or 2 pieces, its not a cheat day, but i'm gonna eat half that pie

Like the joke goes -- just the thing for a fitness minded enthusiast , cause I can fitness whole pizza in my mouth !

The Ultimate "Fat Head" Pizza Crust - Anna Vocino
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Originally Posted by DMC707 View Post
I'll give a quick ride report --- I am skipping some pics -- Instead of buying almond meal, I just ground up a batch of almonds in a vita mix ---it made a huge mess

but---

here is the bare almond meal/mozzarella crust fresh out of the oven





I am starting to add some toppings --- I did this on a whim so I took some regulation low sodium no sugar tomato sauce and added a bunch of Italian herbs and **** to make a pizza sauce --- then tossed the spinach leaves on before the cheese (put them on after and the leaves burn at the edges )



End result -- used some no preservative no GMO pepperoni and sausage from NAtural Grocers (they support a domestic cycling team-- so its a bit spendy there, but Its ok )

I'm gonna beg for style points for the Park pizza cutter and Newmans olive oil



The end result from this "newly separated" guy who is an amateur in the kitchen is a heavy load of dishes --- but man --- I haven't had pizza in a while


That looks amazing. The problem with pizza for me is I snack too much while making it and I can just eat one slice. If I order in I have a hard time not eating the whole thing.

Ha, those aren't many dishes. I will post a picture of the kitchen after my wife or mother in law cooks. Thankfully I am fast (and effective) at washing up and can get a huge amount of dished cleaned in a time that always amazes my wife.
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Now that I have the process down --- the real challenge for me is to get back on the program and not whip up another pie tonight !

I am really pleased with the results and will be checking Anna Vocino's web site for more NSNG offerings ---- I'm the type of guy who loves to whip up steaks and chicken on the bbq grille, but when it comes to using an oven -- I am usually a master of disaster in the kitchen

--- this was the first success I have had at using the oven for anything more advanced than just warming something up, --- so I would say that recipe is one almost anybody can do
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BEen a while since I updated

I am still standing steadfast with the NSNG approach --- its a lot of work though. My weight loss stalled out for a while when my job dictated I deploy out of state for a bit --- I still stuck with the program, but all the stress related cortisol build up , late night eating (even if it was NSNG ) and other maladies had me stuck in a rut

-- I have since returned home and am just as stressed, but surrounded by my familiar settings, I am able to incorporate a bit more roughage than I was getting on the road

\I stepped on the scale again yesterday expecting it to read the same or even plus a few pounds, --- but I was pleased to see I was down another 5

As I have stated earlier, I drink light beer , and although that is the antithesis of a pure NSNG approach, I didn't cut it out, -- feeling that making too many drastic changes at once would lead to failure --- so I am not even coming close to hard core ketosis, but have had weeks on end where I was borderline (per the urine test strips)

- So the program is still working --- slowly but surely

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BEen a while since I updated

I am still standing steadfast with the NSNG approach --- its a lot of work though. My weight loss stalled out for a while when my job dictated I deploy out of state for a bit --- I still stuck with the program, but all the stress related cortisol build up , late night eating (even if it was NSNG ) and other maladies had me stuck in a rut

-- I have since returned home and am just as stressed, but surrounded by my familiar settings, I am able to incorporate a bit more roughage than I was getting on the road

\I stepped on the scale again yesterday expecting it to read the same or even plus a few pounds, --- but I was pleased to see I was down another 5

As I have stated earlier, I drink light beer , and although that is the antithesis of a pure NSNG approach, I didn't cut it out, -- feeling that making too many drastic changes at once would lead to failure --- so I am not even coming close to hard core ketosis, but have had weeks on end where I was borderline (per the urine test strips)

- So the program is still working --- slowly but surely
Five pounds is really good, they say the slower you lose the weight the more likely it is to stay off.

Keep up the good work. Tonight is Fathead Friday, I am making Chicken wing pizza.
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Five pounds is really good, they say the slower you lose the weight the more likely it is to stay off.

Keep up the good work. Tonight is Fathead Friday, I am making Chicken wing pizza.

Thanks Steve !

Fathead Friday sounds like an excellent idea ! I have done the Fathead pizza several times now since you turned me onto that crust recipe

the last time was completely without sauce, just some olive oil on the crust , then a bunch of spinach and other antipasti staples (little peppers, olives, etc)---

I've paused a few times before putting on additional cheese as I think about how much cheese it takes to make the crust --- but no matter how you slice it (no pun intended) -- it usually comes out good


The weight isn't coming off fast, but that said - I can already notice a difference on the bike -- it just fits a little better now that I am a few pounds down
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Best of luck! I've been working down from 295 at the beginning of spring, myself. Re. snacking: do you get baby carrots when on the road? I find that they are useful for filling the belly without taking in a bunch of calories or sodium.
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Guys and gals,

I just had to spend a little bit of time updating some threads that were BIG to me today

I'm 40 lbs down on a primarily NoSugar No Grains approach with the big exception that I still quaff light beer like a Viking after a raiding party (yes, I know this is contradictory and also potentially harmful in the big picture)


What was funny wa the first 30 lbs or so and my appearance stayed the same -- the last 10 people have been remarking that I look years younger and I look much trimmer (I'm not, but it doesn't take much to make a perceptible difference to people you don't see daily)

My losses stagnated a while back, -------has been a very busy fall and early winter season with lots of stress and elevated cortisone levels to go around --but now, I'm home and can better concentrate on what needs to be done

My bodyfat level is staying too high for my weight loss (only saying because my waistline is more now that I am going down the weight ladder than it was when I was coming up)

----- so my analysis

Its time to start stepping on some of the NSNG high calorie items (lots of cheese) a little bit, plus adding some strength training, -- and it goes without saying, bring the beer consumption down a bit

Life is good - Ride fast, take chances
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