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What's the best "I've fallen and can't get up" device for solo riding?

Old 05-10-16, 11:43 AM
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What's the best "I've fallen and can't get up" device for solo riding?

I've got a solo tour coming up and my girlfriend would really like it if I had some sort of crash detection, autonomous call out type system on me for it just in case a car decides to play bumper bikes with me on a deserted country road and leaves me unconscious in a ditch.

Anyone have experience with these types of systems that they would recommend?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 05-10-16, 12:09 PM
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The only one I've heard of is ICEdot.

ICEdot | The Emergency Identification and Notification Service

The biggest issue with this is that it relies on cell phone to contact people in case of a crash. I don't know about your area, but where I live I probably only get cell signal for about 20% of the places I ride, making this sort of tech useless. Climbers have these "personal beacon" thing which transmit GPS signal via radio, but I'm not aware of anything like this that would activate automatically in the event of a crash. My guess is that you're better off relying on the kindness of strangers. I.e. get a RoadID and hope that if the person who knocks you off your bike doesn't stop, then the next guy does.
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Old 05-10-16, 12:11 PM
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There's this one as well that seems to work on a "dead man's switch", rather than impact detection. Again it looks like it needs cell signal.

https://www.ridersmate.com/
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Your bike is dumb, it doesn't have a sat phone w/ a star agent on the other side.

But there are a few apps on your phone that she can track you with and you can also enable the same feature on the newer Garmins.

You should already have a road ID of some sort, carry ID with a emergency list taped to the back of it. You can program all of the emergency contacts to your phone given it doesn't get smashed on the crash.

Don't worry about it, just enjoy the ride. call in or text every time you stop and give her some progress.
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Old 05-10-16, 01:30 PM
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Many newer helmets have an ICE registration sticker on them. You register the number online and all someone has to do is call the phone number on the sticker and input the unique number and your ICE contacts will be notified.
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I'm not aware of any auto-triggering on this, but it relies on satellites and GPS, not cell.

SPOT SATELLITE MESSENGER :: HOME PAGE

Again, you'd have to activate it manually, but I hear it works quite well. I've [strike]used[/strike] carried one driving buses full of kids into the Sequoias, but never had a need to activate it.

It also has a "breadcrumb" type tracking feature so she would be able to see your progress.

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Old 05-10-16, 02:11 PM
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At its heart, a tour is nothing more than a series of day rides strung together. How do you currently address the possibility you fear on a day ride?
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Old 05-10-16, 02:45 PM
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I bought a first generation SPOT years ago, for a motorcycle tour, but never got it out of its box.

You could look at the Road ID app. I haven't, but I've heard of it.
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Old 05-10-16, 02:52 PM
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My in laws have used spot hunting and sailing and other endeavours. If i am not mistaken you can set the spot to send out an emergency signal if you don't activate it after a certain period. So you stop every hour and check in and if you don't then it sends an alert email. I also could be mistaken on this feature.

If you have cell signal then try Glympse. It is a tracking app that give real time stats. It uses your phone's gps and cell to transmit the data real time to whomever you choose. The recipient gets a text or email with a link that is active for as long as you set your event.

I know it works. My wife knew something was wrong when I had a big wreck and wasn't moving. You can send messages to let them know if you are just taking a break.

But I am not aware of anything with a dead mans switch.
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I think Road ID has come out with an app that will notify a specified contact if you are immobile for a certain period of time and don't respond to a warning on your phone. It also tracks you and shares your location.

I use Ride with GPS. It doesn't alert anyone when I'm immobile, but if I don't check in or arrive home as expected, my wife can see where I'm at and if I'm still moving.
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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty View Post
I bought a first generation SPOT years ago, for a motorcycle tour, but never got it out of its box.

You could look at the Road ID app. I haven't, but I've heard of it.
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I think Road ID has come out with an app that will notify a specified contact if you are immobile for a certain period of time and don't respond to a warning on your phone. It also tracks you and shares your location.

I use Ride with GPS. It doesn't alert anyone when I'm immobile, but if I don't check in or arrive home as expected, my wife can see where I'm at and if I'm still moving.
I use the RoadID app every time I ride. It gives my wife piece of mind. The app tracks your ride in real time and sends out an alert to any/all numbers you program into the app. The alert is triggered if you stop for more than five minutes. So if your wife gets an alert and you do not contact her she can check where you are and send help if needed. It works great as long as you have cell service. And RoadID is great at accepting feedback and making updates to the app when needed. Give it a try on a few rides and see how it works for you.
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Old 05-10-16, 08:27 PM
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The Cyclemeter app has a function where it will Auto send Email with a bunch of different options.

Requires cell service

On stop is one of them.

Don't use any of them myself.
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+1 on the RoadID app. I use it occasionally when doing a long ride solo. Keeps my wife happy, and it's free. And I wear a RoadID bracelet as well, just in case. I know from experience that sometimes you can't talk to the first responders.
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Thanks for the useful input. Sounds like the ice thing or road id app is the way to go.

I suspect my cell service is going to be spotty where I'm going to be riding, so it may just be more to make her feel good than useful.
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Originally Posted by Cheese Head View Post
I use the RoadID app every time I ride. It gives my wife piece of mind. The app tracks your ride in real time and sends out an alert to any/all numbers you program into the app. The alert is triggered if you stop for more than five minutes. So if your wife gets an alert and you do not contact her she can check where you are and send help if needed. It works great as long as you have cell service. And RoadID is great at accepting feedback and making updates to the app when needed. Give it a try on a few rides and see how it works for you.
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+1 on the RoadID app. I use it occasionally when doing a long ride solo. Keeps my wife happy, and it's free. And I wear a RoadID bracelet as well, just in case. I know from experience that sometimes you can't talk to the first responders.
How does it affect the battery on your phone? If the battery is dead due to the drain of the GPS the app is useless. However, if it's minimal.......
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Originally Posted by Jarrett2 View Post
Thanks for the useful input. Sounds like the ice thing or road id app is the way to go.

I suspect my cell service is going to be spotty where I'm going to be riding, so it may just be more to make her feel good than useful.
I wouldn't trust anything that uses a cell phone, unless you have some way to charge the phone while you're riding (ex: external battery pack that you recharge every night). Smart phones aren't designed to have the screen and GPS running continuously. I know I can drain 20-30% of my battery while running Waze during my 20-30 minute commute to work. There are techniques GPS/location apps can use to improve battery life, but most of them rely on having ready access to cell or WiFi signals.

If you want a device that's going to work all day, then something like Spot may be a better alternative. They claim that their latest Gen3 device will run for 10-20 days if you're tracking at the shortest 2.5-minute intervals and using the device 8 hours/day. Just be aware of the limitations: their service costs money and it requires direct "line of sight" to the GPS satellites so it doesn't work well in canyons or under heavy tree cover. I've also read numerous reports indicating their "emergency" response is lethargic at best; on the order of hours rather than minutes.
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How does it affect the battery on your phone? If the battery is dead due to the drain of the GPS the app is useless. However, if it's minimal.......
Battery drain of using GPS is minimal. I've done a 113 mile ride using my phone to record GPS track (+HR and speed/cadence from Bluetooth sensors), and had 45% battery at the end of the ride. The screen being on and accessing data is what kills battery life.
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How does it affect the battery on your phone? If the battery is dead due to the drain of the GPS the app is useless. However, if it's minimal.......
Battery life does take a hit — it's not terrible but pretty much like any of the GPS bike or fitness apps — so, if I'm going to use it and will be out more than a couple hours, I pack a little external battery, just in case. I've got one of those lipstick-sized batteries from Anker that weighs 82 grams (just under 3 oz.). Generally, my phone battery holds up pretty well during the summer. In the winter, though, the battery pack is a necessity.
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Originally Posted by Jarrett2 View Post
I've got a solo tour coming up and my girlfriend would really like it if I had some sort of crash detection, autonomous call out type system on me for it just in case a car decides to play bumper bikes with me on a deserted country road and leaves me unconscious in a ditch.

Anyone have experience with these types of systems that they would recommend?

Thanks in advance.
A cell phone?
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Old 05-23-16, 12:46 AM
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I think the Garmin 520 will detect a crash. The 1000 doesn't.
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+1 for RoadId smartphone app

https://www.roadid.com/ecrumbs
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