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Old 05-12-16, 02:01 PM
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Name brand frame or generic

So I finally got the ok from the Mrs. to get another bike. She did put me on a budget however so I have to use my money wisely which means buying a new "generic" framed bike or a used bike from a well known brand. I currently ride a Specialized AWOL and I love it, but I also want a real "go fast" bike for rides that don't require fenders, racks , bags etc.......

I've had my eye on a Nashbar carbon fiber road bike with the new 11 speed shimano 105 components for a while now and I had pretty much made up my mind that this is what I was going to get. However; the LBS has a used Specialized Roubaix Elite for sale that is spec'd fairly closely to the Nashbar offering and the price for either is almost identical. The Roubaix is a 2009 model with externally run cables, 50/34 compact crank and 10 speed 105 shimano gears in the rear. I took a look at the bike last night and it appears to be in good shape. It's obviously been ridden but nothing appears to be excessively worn or damaged in any way.

So given the information above, and assuming that fit will not be an issue for either bike, what would you do? Used name brand or new off brand?
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Ignoring the frames and just judging by components, the Shimano 5800 11-speed 105 is much nicer than the 10-speed 105-- the new stuff is basically Ultegra level. I'd go with the Nashbar based on that alone.
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What's the geometry difference?

I'd lean towards Nashbar on this one if geometry was a wash.
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Old 05-12-16, 05:36 PM
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nashbar looks good in terms of component value. just have to look at reviews and take a shot at the frame

comparisons $1550 Specialized Allez DSW SL Comp Alu frame, very similar compontnets

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/bi...sl-comp/106562

specialized Roubaix SL4 $1800 but Tiagra components

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/bi...aix-sl4/106478
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2009 is an 7-8 year old bike. Roubaixs are fine bikes but I wouldn't get one that old when you could get a new bike for a similar price. How much do they want for it?
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The shop is asking $800 for it which is a bit high and I know I could get them to come down a few dollars if I went that route. I'm still leaning towards the Nashbar bike to be honest. Thanks for all of the responses. I'll let you know which way I go when I make a decision.

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I own a Nashbar aluminum touring frame. For $100 (frame+fork) it was a great value and built up into a terrific bike. That said, there were a few small dings in the paint when it was delivered to me. From what I've read this seems to be a common problem so if you're looking for perfection keep that in mind. There are a few other niggles here and there (ex: water bottle boss placed right where you'd like to clamp the FD, downtube water bottle mounted so high that normal-sized bottles make contact with front tire, etc).

If you're not going to pay for Di2 shifting, you might want to think twice about an 11-speed drive-train. The additional dish required to make the wider 11-speed cassette work means that wheel building is slightly trickier. On my 11-speed Di2 bike, I ended up using lighter-gauge spokes on the NDS. Even so, DS tension is close to the max and NDS tension is quite low. I haven't had any problems yet, but I've been under Clydesdale weight for a while. Be sure to figure out a Clyde-approved 11-speed wheel config if you go that route....
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if you go nashbar...make sure you get on the mailing list and use the discounts you can often get another 20 to 25 percent off
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If you're not going to pay for Di2 shifting, you might want to think twice about an 11-speed drive-train. The additional dish required to make the wider 11-speed cassette work means that wheel building is slightly trickier. On my 11-speed Di2 bike, I ended up using lighter-gauge spokes on the NDS. Even so, DS tension is close to the max and NDS tension is quite low. I haven't had any problems yet, but I've been under Clydesdale weight for a while. Be sure to figure out a Clyde-approved 11-speed wheel config if you go that route....
It's the same dish Campagnolo wheels have been using for 20 years (Campagnolo last changed the freehub configuration moving to 9 speeds in the 1997 model year) and works fine with proper component selection.

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