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Old 05-25-16, 03:44 PM
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2 bolt pedal options

I know people get sick of talking this subject, so apologies in advance. Purely to try something different, contemplating either some eggbeater 1 or 2's, or some look s track's. I like the idea of eggbeaters but reviews seem to indicate that their lower priced options have durability issues. Will be used for commuting etc. If anyone has any opinions on either, please feel free to share them. If nothing else will get some more double sided spd.
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I've been using iSSi Trails for about a year now, and have been very happy with them. Apparently they're some sort of rebadged Wellgo (So they use Wellgo 98A cleats,) but they come in three different spindle lengths and I needed longer spindles-- the form factor is very close to the Shimano XTR 9020 pedal, but with just a simple inner sleeve bushing and outer cartridge bearing. The process for rebuilding a Shimano pedal is not for the faint of heart.

I really prefer a pedal with a larger cage around the clip-- I was never fond of the Shimano 520/540 style pedals. The larger cage makes clipping in while maneuvering around traffic/through intersections easier (at least for me) because when I miss the clip, I can still keep pedaling. I have the original Trails which specifically use the Wellgo cleat, the redesigned newer version will work with both Wellgo/iSSi and Shimano SH-51 cleats.

Pedals like Eggbeaters require a shoe with a very stiff sole, as the pedal itself gives virtually no support to the bottom of your foot.
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I have used Crank Brothers pedals and like them but unless you've got some really really stiff shoes the pedals with some platform, like the Candy, seem to spread out the force and are easier on my feet.
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I appreciate the help. The issi pedals look nice, and being compatible with the sh-51 is nice. Currently have the m520 and have got to where clipping in is second nature, the hot spots were a little worse till I took the foam pads over the cleat plate out and cut some hard plastic to fit. Is more manageable now. Didnt know if any other pedals were as easy, or easier to clip in on the fly. Thanks again. Will look for something with some sort of cage around it as long as it shouldnt hinder entry.
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Got some Candy 1's. Seems if they wear in a bit they may work similarly to the spd's.
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I've been using eggbeaters on my CX bike for several years. about the only good thing I can say for Crank Brothers is their pedals shed mud well. I am looking to replace my CX shoes and when i do I will be thinking of changing to spd pedals.
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That sucks to hear. I am just going through the gotta try all the different types thing right now. The candy's dont seem to be quite as solid of a click/unclick as spd, but they are interesting.
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I tried eggbeaters on my cyclocross and Bike Friday. Never got beyond the learning curve of clicking in. Went back to the old, reliable spd pedals.
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I sprayed some dry lube on the candy's, to aid with break in. To me you can pretty much just press down like with spd, although not 100% of the time, and more pressure is necessary. Happy so far.
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Originally Posted by Staypuft1652
Got some Candy 1's. Seems if they wear in a bit they may work similarly to the spd's.
The big difference between the Crank Brothers pedals and Shimano SPDs is the release angle. With Crank Brothers pedals, the release angle is 15- or 20-degrees. SPDs are something like 3- or 5-degrees, I think? When riding off-road, I found that the larger release angle of the Crank Brothers pedals meant that I was more likely to hit the ground if I had to stop unexpectedly. In addition, I found that my knees actually had less pain with the SPD pedals than with Crank Brothers pedals. My only explanation for this is that I eventually got my cleats in the perfect position and now I'm repeating the perfect pedal stroke over and over. With pedals that allow more float, like Crank Brothers, my pedal stroke is probably less consistent which leads to more pain on longer rides.
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@sstorkel That does make sense. They do seem to require a bit more angle to release. They also do not have nearly as solid of an entry/release as the spd. For me they are purely for commuting purposes, so I cannot comment on emergency situations. Knock on wood I havent fallen yet with any of the different systems but came close a number of times. So far the simplest and most user friendly are still the m520's, even set them up on a different bike with road shoes and still just as easy to enter/exit.
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I came to the opposite conclusion on CrankBrothers vs SPD, my clipping in and out was much more certain with the Candy's than the 3 or 4 different SPD pedals. My first set of SPD well Wellgo combo pedals (I don't remember the number but SPD on one side and Platform on the other) and I did like them best. Also had some single and dual sided Shimano and a set of Wellgo singles that looked like road pedals. But when I went to the CrankBothers I was instantly confident with the system and really liked to large area of the Candy's with my MTB shoes.

Like many other things the pedal system should be something you feel confident in, not something you have to worry about. There are several different systems and I'm sure many like each of them. I wanted to try 3 bolt road cleats and ended up going with the Shimano SPD-SL cleats/pedals. I like them but clipping in is harder to get used to than the MTB systems I have used but I'm getting better. I plan to order some cleats with the rubber tips on them, the hard plastic is grippy on slick floors.
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The first spd, or even recessed type cleat/pedal I tried was the shimano m324. I read such glowing reviews of them, seemed to be very sturdily built, and liked the idea of one side spd, and one side platform. But no matter how much I used them, how I used them, dry lube, they were a big letdown. Were fine as a playform, which they were weighted to default to, but if I desired to clip in it was pretty much impossible without looking, and even then wasnt easy. Glad I didnt give up on spd then. I ended up removing the cages on them, and taking a hacksaw and removing the unnecessary bits from them. Oddly enough they work slightly better now, go figure.
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Originally Posted by Staypuft1652
So far the simplest and most user friendly are still the m520's, even set them up on a different bike with road shoes and still just as easy to enter/exit.
M520's are the best! I have them on all of my bikes, including my $5000 road bike...
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@sstorkel :-)
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The wife and I use CB Candy 3's. I guess I like them so much that I haven't considered trying other pedals. The extra float is nice for me as I don't feel locked into one position which can hurt my knees.
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They are really cool so far. May get some more candy's or some eggbeaters for another bike.
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I've been using M530 for a couple years on my mtb.
Bought a CAADX in march, and got some eggbeaters for it, since I've been wanting to give them a try for a while now...I didnt like them, so I'm getting some M8000.
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I have been curious, if the cheap shimano double sided spd are so good, wonder how sweet the upper level ones are.
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For sure lighter, better looking, and m540 and up have the metal nut holding the body on the spindle rather than plastic, possibly better seals/bearings, and better material for locking mechanism?
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Originally Posted by Staypuft1652
I have been curious, if the cheap shimano double sided spd are so good, wonder how sweet the upper level ones are.
I own a set of Shimano XTR PD-M970 pedals. Honestly, without looking at them or weighing them on a gram scale I couldn't tell the difference from the inexpensive PD-M520s. I got them for a great price, but wouldn't buy them again.
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Thanks @sstorkel , that is what I figured was the case. Seems like a well designed system. Have not always been the biggest shimano fan, but they did nicely.
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The more I use them, as much as I love the m520's, I think the candy's are even easier to use. They dont feel quite as solid of a connection as spd, but all in all I like them more.
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Back to spd. Kind of sucks you need to also buy the shoe shields, even though they arent expensive.
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I was using Shimano M520/M540 for a few years and was happy with them.
Wanted to try something lighter for my folding bike which I try to make as light as possible.
I use it for traveling, commuting, shopping, etc. At the time(about 3 years ago); Crankbrothers
had a program where if you turned in your used clipless pedals; they would give you half off
one of their pedals. I asked my LBS for any broken/old pedals they had lying around. They
had some really old and discontinued SPD's lying around and gave them to me.

Sent that to Crankbrtohers and got half off a set of Eggbeaters 3. After installation; test ride.
My right foot is usually clipped in all the time and I didn't have any problem with that. My left
foot on the other hand; is the one that clips on & off constantly. I just couldn't get a smooth
entry like I always do with the M520/M540. Maybe I should have used the metal plate/spacer
that came with the kit. In any case I just gave up after 2 rides.

Ended up trying some titanium models from Xpedo. Same feel as the Shimano's; but lighter.
Xpedo R Force 170 grams claimed(167 on my scale); single entry:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh5V...6zPoymgKaIoDLA

Xpdedo M Force 200 grams claimed weight(didn't get a chance to weight it); double sided entry:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpt6...aIoDLA&index=1
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