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Kanepashi 07-27-16 09:44 AM

I need a spinner bike
 
Like the title says i need a spinner whit endurance or racing geometry not the siting down ones. I seen a lot and so far, i am going whit the sunny fitness. Only thing pulling me back is that it doesnt come whit a power meter that tells you the speed or distance you gone. Anyone has one thats been good so far? I do 15 miles a day weight 279lbs and some times i dont want to get all geared up to go ride would like to have something in the house for those moments where is either raining or to sunny ex florida right now.

Yendor72 07-27-16 10:57 AM

I have one of these. It is great except for the saddle fore/aft adjustment bolt could be a bit stronger. I replaced ours with a heavier grade bolt. We put a lot of miles on it in the winter. It is a torture device for sure, but keeps us in riding shape.Magnetic resistence so it is quiet, has cadence, power and distance and is progrmmable.
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Kanepashi 07-27-16 01:37 PM

Nice, is there one whit drop bars, or are all spinners whit upwards handle bars?

I rly wish i could find the brand for the

Olimpic sprinter vs toaster, video. That spiner is just badass.

PatrickR400 07-27-16 05:36 PM

Why not use a regular road bike with a trainer? If it's good enough for the Tour de France pros...

Personally I have a Tacx Ironman and that thing will get you sweating a river.

chaadster 07-27-16 06:14 PM

http://www.cycleops.com/Content/Cycl...es/Phantom.png

brawlo 07-27-16 09:06 PM

Well, I've been down that path way back. I was using a StarTrac Vbike when I got into cycling. Short story, the resistance just isn't the same. The best use of a trainer is intervals. It just makes the time more economic and less boring by being able to do a shorter workout. I now have my original road bike permanently sitting in a Kurt Kinetic Road Machine. I use it mainly for sprint track based efforts.

For the money, a trainer with your bike in it will be much more useful. I would rate the KKRM as one of the most economical of the power based trainers due to its proven reliability and correlation to road output. You can function just fine with their graph and a speedo for power output or you could pay the little extra and get the add on sensor to display the output details on an apple device.

Kanepashi 07-28-16 01:52 AM

Whats the max capacity of a trainer it just looks weak for some reason duno. I will give it a try tho.

chaadster 07-28-16 03:32 AM


Originally Posted by brawlo (Post 18943485)
Well, I've been down that path way back. I was using a StarTrac Vbike when I got into cycling. Short story, the resistance just isn't the same. The best use of a trainer is intervals. It just makes the time more economic and less boring by being able to do a shorter workout. I now have my original road bike permanently sitting in a Kurt Kinetic Road Machine. I use it mainly for sprint track based efforts.

For the money, a trainer with your bike in it will be much more useful. I would rate the KKRM as one of the most economical of the power based trainers due to its proven reliability and correlation to road output. You can function just fine with their graph and a speedo for power output or you could pay the little extra and get the add on sensor to display the output details on an apple device.

Kurt Kinetic are almost out of the game. They don't even have a smart unit yet, and the one they're coming out with isn't ANT+ FEC controllable. You can get a better trainer that does more for almost half the price. Kurt is too little, too late, and the success of Zwift they'll never compete with on their own proprietary system. They're way behind the curve now, but in '17, they'll be totally irrelevant.

PatrickR400 07-28-16 04:07 AM


Originally Posted by Kanepashi (Post 18943695)
Whats the max capacity of a trainer it just looks weak for some reason duno. I will give it a try tho.

I weight close to 300 lbs and have never had any worries about the sturdiness of my trainer. On the performance side, it will simulate uphill riding to 20% slope and downhill to 5% slope. I believe up to 2000W resistance.

There are other models and brands.

Kanepashi 07-28-16 04:15 AM


Originally Posted by PatrickR400 (Post 18943741)
I weight close to 300 lbs and have never had any worries about the sturdiness of my trainer. On the performance side, it will simulate uphill riding to 20% slope and downhill to 5% slope. I believe up to 2000W resistance.

There are other models and brands.

O wow thata rly gopd? Have any recomendations? And thx in adv

PatrickR400 07-28-16 04:20 AM

I will direct your to the DCRainmaker site; for example the winter 2015-2016 bike trainer recommendation article. Just type trainer in the search box at the top and you'll get lots of stuff. Snoop around too; there are always new products.

brawlo 07-28-16 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by chaadster (Post 18943726)
Kurt Kinetic are almost out of the game. They don't even have a smart unit yet, and the one they're coming out with isn't ANT+ FEC controllable. You can get a better trainer that does more for almost half the price. Kurt is too little, too late, and the success of Zwift they'll never compete with on their own proprietary system. They're way behind the curve now, but in '17, they'll be totally irrelevant.

The KKRM is fit for purpose. It's a big step up from a spin bike for the purposes of cycling and staying fit. When you start talking about controllability, then you step up into a completely new ball park of trainers and a completely different price point. The KK is quiet (that's possibly it's biggest sell over it's equally capable competition) and not much more than a cheap spin bike and you get a power output via your speed that you can translate from their graph. For less that $100 if you have an apple device, you get a digital output of power, speed, etc. It will still work well for Zwift due to it's predictable power curve. If you want all the bells and whistles of a controllable trainer, then you're up into $1k+ territory. Horses for courses.

chaadster 07-28-16 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by brawlo (Post 18945380)
The KKRM is fit for purpose. It's a big step up from a spin bike for the purposes of cycling and staying fit. When you start talking about controllability, then you step up into a completely new ball park of trainers and a completely different price point. The KK is quiet (that's possibly it's biggest sell over it's equally capable competition) and not much more than a cheap spin bike and you get a power output via your speed that you can translate from their graph. For less that $100 if you have an apple device, you get a digital output of power, speed, etc. It will still work well for Zwift due to it's predictable power curve. If you want all the bells and whistles of a controllable trainer, then you're up into $1k+ territory. Horses for courses.

You've got to be specific here; "spin bike" doesn't mean anything, and the Road Machine, Smart version or otherwise, is a huge step *down* from the Cyclops Phantom 5 (as pictured upthread). No question about that.

As for electronically controlled trainers, you can grab an Elite Qubo Digital Smart B+ from Nashbar right now for $450, while a Road Machine Smart is going for $400 at REI. I can't imagine being so short sighted as to choose the Kurt just to save $50.

If we're talking Zwift, the $400 Road Machine brings no more than I can get from a $310 Cycleops Fluid2 off Amazon, or a $150 Nashbar Traveltrac.

This is Kurt Kinetic's problem; they're simply are outfeatured at the pricepoint, or matched at lower ones. That's a big problem as I see it.

dagray 07-28-16 06:17 PM

I use a BKool Pro smart trainer, and started using it when I was 396 pounds (now down to 360). I have been using it since October 2014 and not broken it yet.

This will offer up to 1200 watts of resistance.

The advantage of a trainer is its smaller size over a "spin bike", and the fact you can throw your bike into the trainer to become more efficient with your bike.

I bought and extra rear wheel to run a trainer tire as I run tubeless tires on the road; so I just swap out the rear wheel when I ride the trainer in the house (both wheels have the same ratio on the cassettes).

brawlo 07-28-16 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by chaadster (Post 18945462)
You've got to be specific here; "spin bike" doesn't mean anything, and the Road Machine, Smart version or otherwise, is a huge step *down* from the Cyclops Phantom 5 (as pictured upthread). No question about that.

As for electronically controlled trainers, you can grab an Elite Qubo Digital Smart B+ from Nashbar right now for $450, while a Road Machine Smart is going for $400 at REI. I can't imagine being so short sighted as to choose the Kurt just to save $50.

If we're talking Zwift, the $400 Road Machine brings no more than I can get from a $310 Cycleops Fluid2 off Amazon, or a $150 Nashbar Traveltrac.

This is Kurt Kinetic's problem; they're simply are outfeatured at the pricepoint, or matched at lower ones. That's a big problem as I see it.

Fair point on the Elite, I just looked it up. Like I ended with, horses for courses. It all depends on what the OP wants to do with the trainer. I pointed to the non technical trainer because the OP had his eyes on a $2-300 spin bike. That's definitely not a high end bike, so presumably there's not a lot of money to throw around. I'd be super happy to spend $150-200 on a used Kurt as they're almost bulletproof and so robust. That's cheap, and you can still attach the power unit to it.

With the workouts I do, there are few trainers that fit my requirements. The Elite would never make the list. But my workouts are related to track racing and so my needs are different to others. I also have a Cyclops 2 that I have kept for my daughter to use. There is definitely a difference, and the Kurt is a winner, but it comes down to intended purpose.

If you wanted the controlability in the future, then I'd look for a cheap trainer in the meantime and save up your money. I know a lot of people that use zwift now that have all started on a variety of trainers and trialed via friends a variety of trainers. Almost all of them would say that if Zwift was your thing, then the Kickr is the start point. Anything less is just a stepping stone.

chaadster 07-28-16 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by brawlo (Post 18945622)
Fair point on the Elite, I just looked it up. Like I ended with, horses for courses. It all depends on what the OP wants to do with the trainer. I pointed to the non technical trainer because the OP had his eyes on a $2-300 spin bike. That's definitely not a high end bike, so presumably there's not a lot of money to throw around. I'd be super happy to spend $150-200 on a used Kurt as they're almost bulletproof and so robust. That's cheap, and you can still attach the power unit to it.

With the workouts I do, there are few trainers that fit my requirements. The Elite would never make the list. But my workouts are related to track racing and so my needs are different to others. I also have a Cyclops 2 that I have kept for my daughter to use. There is definitely a difference, and the Kurt is a winner, but it comes down to intended purpose.

If you wanted the controlability in the future, then I'd look for a cheap trainer in the meantime and save up your money. I know a lot of people that use zwift now that have all started on a variety of trainers and trialed via friends a variety of trainers. Almost all of them would say that if Zwift was your thing, then the Kickr is the start point. Anything less is just a stepping stone.

You're absolutely right it's about choosing the best unit for one's needs, and thankfully, the market is full of options right now. So many, it's kind of confusing! I'm totally smitten with Zwift myself, and am guilty of looking at turbos through that lens, and assuming everyone would want to have controlled resistance capacity, so your point is well-taken there, too.

Kanepashi 07-29-16 06:13 AM

Thx for replies, i dont need domething expensive i am no pro, i am 275lb from 326lb so i am still on the losing weight stage. Even tho i can go up to 22 miles in zpeed top 27.7. I am very proud whit that. Anyways i just need for those days to relax at home and just do a quick 10 miles run and for my brother to do some exercise solid over anything else. Thanks for the reply.


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