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Old 11-08-18, 02:04 PM
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Hardtail recommendations

i currently own a 2012 specialized sectuer sport (xl) and a 2013(?) marin larkspur cs3 (xl), but am looking to get a trail bike and selling the marin. i was 360+ and was getting nervous on my road bike, so i got the marin as a safety bike because it was much more stable. after losing 60lbs i've gotten my confidence back on my road bike and i hate how heavy the marin feels. if you're looking at a marin, it's a great bike and is definitely sturdy. it's just redundant for me.

i do a decent amount of hiking and realized that my local state park is perfect for a trail ride. it's definitely not a downhill, technical park so i'm just looking for a hardtail mountain bike at entry level pricing (probably around $800 on the high end). this bike would be a mix of trail riding, hauling my kid around, and maybe some bike packing trips.

here's what i need:
-front shock lockout (since this is going to be used off trail some)
-XL sized frame (i am 6'3 and 305lbs)
-disk brakes

what i don't know:
-much about mountain bikes
-29 vs 27.5+
-optimal tire width for either (i would probably be rolling stock for a while)
-best geometry on these bikes for clydes

any experience or advice is welcome. hopefully i can ride a couple in stores, but i wanted to get an idea of some models to check out.

so far the REI dirt 1.2, cannonale cujo 2, and trek marlin 7 have caught my eye, but i haven't had a chance to test ride any yet.
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the Cujo 2 is the BEST bang for buck, FYI that the rear is made up new spec to make building wide rear bikes with a QR....141mm QR, (standard spec is 142 thru axle and 148 boost thru axle) so finding wheel fix/upgrades will be custom. I got my wife the womens version of the Cujo, Scarlet 275+ and it's the reason why I wanted 275+ myself and got a chameleon. The fatter tires are AWESOME!!! Get something 1x drive train

Also Trek and Cannondale will have lifetime warranty to the original owner. Piece of mind later if the frame has problems.

https://www.rei.com/product/124759/c...-275-bike-2018
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That Cujo looks good, but I'd be having some serious concerns about that oddball rear hub spec. Getting replacement wheels is going to be hard and/or costly.

Keep an eye out for something second hand and also last season stock may be getting around if you can find it in XL. For the wide variety of riding that you will be doing I think stick to 2x or 3x front gearing. It will give you a wider usable range, and at your weight, the bike weight penalty will be negligible. 1x is the current trend, and the way I'm going on my own new HT, but I'm actually seeing a kickback from 1x around the web with people that use their bikes for more than just pure mountain riding.

*EDIT* Merida bikes may be another brand worth looking at. They generally offer a good value for money package (I just purchased one for my daughter)

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next best option for regular spaced wheel and bang for buck is the Salsa Timberjack. I know its out of budget but you get 148 boosted specs, can run another wheelset for 29er/ wide 700 tires. Better fork option and thru axle which is pretty night and day over quick release wheels. Timberjacks are popular for bikepacking as well.
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how do you guys feel about 27.5+ vs 29?

what about non-shock bikes, like surly?

on the usage scale i would say 60% trail riding (super easy, mostly flat dual purpose trail with a few rocks and roots), 39% trailer towing my kid on crushed stone/semi paved paths, 1% bikepacking (which i may only do once year).
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its Hard to go back to 29er and sub 2.4 tires. Im on 3 275+ tires and biggest positive difference is tire pressure and how soft/plush the ride is. Second is grip of 3 tires is very confident in turns and have good hook up when climbing kitty litter dirt.

Downside is they weight 200-300grams more than most 2.35 29er tires so accelerated efforts from low speed such as hair pins require more power to get up to speed. At speed they roll very very well and since it has better traction than 29er you can use less braking and hold more speed aka faster. Not to mention its still a plush ride at speed. Not sure how much chatter you will get on a fully rigid setup. Im on a 120mm fork. Front tire pressure on 275+ is 13/rear is 15. 29er with 2.35 is 21 front and 24 rear.

See if your shops have a bike demo demo day at the trails so you can feel it on dirt vs just the LBS paved parking lot. Downside they will only bring 3-6k bikes....
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check out these forums on bike and parts reviews for plus bikes. Allot of good reading and photo threads
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Ah, making me feel so good about my 29er QR 2.3 tyre Trek, @jsigone
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Ah, making me feel so good about my 29er QR 2.3” tyre Trek, @jsigone
HAAAAAA I rode this skinny beast w/ 2.2 tires, QR and lefty for 8hr and almost 10k vertical on saturday. I wanted the fatter tires so bad, but reality the 2x10 gearing I have is ever so slightly lighter than the 275+ bike. And there was a TON of climbing per lap!!
24x36 = 1.5
30x42= 1.4

I ordered a 28t for the 1x11 setup and will have 1.5 ratio soon on the fat bike!! I posted my 29er for sale on Craiglist earlier this week
I have 34,30 and 28t front rings with matching chain lengths to match whatever course/style of riding I'm doing.

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HAAAAAA I rode this skinny beast w/ 2.2 tires, QR and lefty for 8hr and almost 10k vertical on saturday. I wanted the fatter tires so bad, but reality the 2x10 gearing I have is ever so slightly lighter than the 275+ bike. And there was a TON of climbing per lap!!
24x36 = 1.5
30x42= 1.4

I ordered a 28t for the 1x11 setup and will have 1.5 ratio soon on the fat bike!! I posted my 29er for sale on Craiglist earlier this week
I have 34,30 and 28t front rings with matching chain lengths to match whatever course/style of riding I'm doing.

Oh. Mine is even. 3x10.

If if I was riding regularly Id get the 2x11 XT set thats super-cheap there.
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here's a couple craigslist finds:

https://baltimore.craigslist.org/bik...734306931.html

https://easternshore.craigslist.org/...744379370.html

i emailed the guy with the GT to see if he could come down some. the other one looks like a cheap bike, so i'm hoping to get some insight from you guys. if i was a couple inches shorter i would be swimming in deals for bikes, because there's a bunch of size Large frames. i had one previously and sold it because it was too small.

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https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/p...ggrssrprxxxprf

is this completely out of the question?

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alright, thanks for the help everyone.

i ignored half my stuff and just got the trek marlin 5. it was a good price ($500) and more importantly it was available for me to walk out of the store with. i'm going to take it out tomorrow and get it on the trail. i already regret not just buying new pedals when i was at my LBS. will post a pic tomorrow.
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had some fun this morning. a lot tougher than i remember from when i was a kid.
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had some fun this morning. a lot tougher than i remember from when i was a kid.
Nice!! Congrats
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I like the new geometry they put into the 2019 Marlins. Good frame to last a long time and worthy to upgrade by the other parts as they wear down.

Congrats on the new stead and now get it more dirty!!
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should have gotten a boat instead
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