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magilla 05-19-07 10:00 PM

What's the take on the Hobson Easy Seat for a Clyde
 
Been looking around for a seat for my Schwinn 63cm road bike that I will commute to work back and forth 16 miles a day.

Trying to find a good seat for a Clyde, and came across the "Easy Seat"

Oh, the wonders of advertising....I don't want to become impotent from a seat crushing my nerves....

So, what's the take on the "Easy Seat" http://www.easy-seats.com/

For all you that have posted "Brooks", what model is the best? B17, B66, B67 for commuting?

I will prolly end up Brooks, but if someone tells me the easy seat is GREAT, then I am willing to try it.

Tom Stormcrowe 05-19-07 10:04 PM

I've heard good and bad about the saddle type like Easy Seat. As I understand it, you either love or hate them. I use the nose of the saddle as a balance reference point, and didn't like the bike set up with theis type of saddle. It felt like there was an element of control missing.

As to the Brooks question.......

Depends on a couple of factors like upright or dropped riding stance, as well as width of your ischium (Sit bones).

bdinger 05-19-07 11:07 PM

+1 on what Tom said. The B17 is my new true love, I'm going to order another one for my MTB as I just can't get over how comfortable it is. However, you have to deal with the break-in period :D

Thankfully my uber-clyde bottom has sped up my break-in process. After 200 miles it just keeps getting better. My non-clyde buddy had to wait around 500 miles for his to get this good :)

kandnhome 05-19-07 11:16 PM

The seats look like a neat idea, but I'd be careful about putting much stock a site that claims to have solved the "prostrate" problem of conventional saddles with its' products.

I've found that as long as the saddle is the right width for your sit bones, and not rock-hard, you'll get fully used to it in about 40 saddle-hours, give or take. But I'm no uber-clyde, just a regular clyde @ 230, so the rules may differ for the really big guys.

edit to say: at $40-$60 depending on model, it won't hurt too bad to find out if it's for you.

v1k1ng1001 05-20-07 01:18 AM

just get a brooks

JumboRider 05-20-07 03:52 AM

Sheldon
 
Sheldon from Harris Cycle is the one that convinced me that Brooks was the way to go. Yeah, I know it is counter intuitive. Read all of the article for some great insight. Here is his take on padded saddles.
Hard or Soft?
When a cyclist finds a saddle uncomfortable, the first impulse is often to look for a soft one. This is often a mistake. Just as the softest mattress is not necessarily the most comfortable to sleep on, the softest saddle is not the most comfortable to cycle on.

The "Two Bump Problem"
Imagine sitting down on a coffee table. Your weight is concentrated on the two bumps of your "sit bones", also known as the "ischial tuberosities." These are the parts of your body designed to bear your seated weight. Most cases of saddle-related discomfort arise because the load is carried on the soft tissues between the sit bones.

Imagine placing a soft pillow on top of the coffee table. Now, as you sit down on it, the sit bones compress the pillow, which yields until the sit bones are almost on the table surface again. The difference is that now, you have pressure in between your sit bones from the middle part of the pillow.

Many cyclists are unaware of this, and many saddles are made to appeal to the purchaser who chooses a saddle on the basis of how easily the thumb can sink into the squishy top. This type of saddle is only comfortable for very short rides, (though an inexperienced cyclist will often find it more comfortable than a better saddle, as long as rides don't exceed a mile or two.)

Saddles with excessive padding are also a common cause of painful chafing of the inner thigh, as rides become longer.

(51) 05-20-07 05:11 AM

I don't know science. All I can say is that my Brooks feels better over the long haul (10+ miles) than a cushioned seat. If you are doing distance, get a Brooks. If you are beach-cruising get one of those.

magilla 05-20-07 06:03 AM

B17, Sprung B17 ("Flyer"), or B66 for commuting?

Also, I can afford 15.00 extra if the "Pre-aging" is worth it. Is this a gimmick?

(I know, I know - I'm sometimes susceptible to advertising claims, especially when I know NOTHING about the subject area. The less I know, or can find out, the more I'm apt to want to trust advertising claims. But Harris cyclery can't be trying to rip us off, right?)

(51) 05-20-07 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by magilla

Also, I can afford 15.00 extra if the "Pre-aging" is worth it. Is this a gimmick?

Well, the Brooks is supposed to conform to your butt. How can they "pre-age" it according to your butt?

Tom Stormcrowe 05-20-07 06:27 AM

Pre-aging is an aesthetic thing. It makes your Brooks look older than it is. That's kinda for poseurs, if you get my meaning!;)

Terrierman 05-20-07 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe
Pre-aging is an aesthetic thing. It makes your Brooks look older than it is. That's kinda for poseurs, if you get my meaning!;)

+1, except for the "kinda" part. If I want my Brooks to look old before it's time, I'll soak it in used motor oil and drag it around behind my truck for a day or two myself. :eek:

magilla 05-20-07 08:16 AM

OK, so no pre-aging (I thought it made them softer and break-in more rapidly)

So, back to the style:

B17, Flyer (Sprung B17), or B66 / 67 ??

Any comments?

(51) 05-20-07 11:37 AM

Upright-B67, Bent over-B17

JumboRider 05-20-07 02:18 PM

And as I have read, not ridden, it may be a bit um painful until the saddle breaks in. Don't give up on it until you give it a chance. At least that is what I keep telling myself.

v1k1ng1001 05-20-07 05:32 PM

well you have to remember to give your ass time to break in too. usually takes me a couple weeks at the beginning of every season.

Wogster 05-20-07 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by v1k1ng1001
well you have to remember to give your ass time to break in too. usually takes me a couple weeks at the beginning of every season.

Is it better to use the old saddle for a couple of weeks, until the old butt is toughened up, or put the new saddle on at the beginning of the season, and let them both get broken in at the same time?

v1k1ng1001 05-20-07 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by Wogsterca
Is it better to use the old saddle for a couple of weeks, until the old butt is toughened up, or put the new saddle on at the beginning of the season, and let them both get broken in at the same time?

I'd go with the latter. Break 'em in together.

CardiacKid 05-20-07 07:56 PM

"Easy Seats are specifically designed to eliminate prostrate problems and groin numbness"
I have never tried lying down on my bike. If I ever do have a problem in that regard, I will try the Easy Seat.

Wogster 05-20-07 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by v1k1ng1001
I'd go with the latter. Break 'em in together.

I wonder if they go "on sale" in the off season, $130 for a saddle is a little much....

JumboRider 05-20-07 08:43 PM

Ebay

Gibbygoo 05-20-07 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by CardiacKid
"Easy Seats are specifically designed to eliminate prostrate problems and groin numbness"
I have never tried lying down on my bike. If I ever do have a problem in that regard, I will try the Easy Seat.

Doesn't that word have one R in it? You'd think they would have caught that typo by now.

Raub 05-20-07 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by Wogsterca
I wonder if they go "on sale" in the off season, $130 for a saddle is a little much....

I agree with the earlier poster. I've seen them on Ebay for about $55.

v1k1ng1001 05-21-07 01:00 AM


Originally Posted by Wogsterca
I wonder if they go "on sale" in the off season, $130 for a saddle is a little much....


seems like all decent saddles are $100+ MSRP these days

i remember when I bought my ti railed flite for $40 at QBP's open house ten years ago

superslomo 05-21-07 12:40 PM

I might change my mind eventually, but I was just not happy with the B17N I got a while back. I had what felt like bruising on my sitbones, after a shortish ride (10 miles of leisurely riding on the beater bike). I put an Aliante on my road bike, and a terry on the errand/beater bike and I've been completely happy with those. If I can use something that needs no break-in, I don't know what I have the frustration and pain tolerance required to get a Brooks to where it needs to be.

It also made me feel like the bike was trying to buck me off over every road irregularity, and the slipperiness of the leather initially made it hard to find a comfortable spot. I wasn't convinced (still am not) that I wanted to spend 500 miles to find something that I might like better.

I look on here and everyone praises them, yet when you are out on the road you rarely ever see them. Don't know why that is, but it's a peculiar thing.

Tom Stormcrowe 05-21-07 12:49 PM

Everyones butt is different! I enjoy my leather saddle, but understand that it is an acquired taste. My saddle, once I got it adjusted for angle, etc has become the most comfortable saddle I've ever ridden!

As to why you almost never see them? Look at long distance tourists and you will see a lot of us using them.


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