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Old 07-15-07, 06:52 AM
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"Safe Weight" for road bike?

My wife is utterly convinced that, at 285#, I am too heavy to safely ride a road bike. She insists that I stay on my MTB. So here's the question: Given the following road bike, what weight rider can be safely supported without fear of component failures:

The Bike: Steel-frame & fork, Nitto aluminum stem & bars, Aluminum-single-bolt seat post with steel-rail saddle, Dura-Ace 32-spoke 3-cross wheels tightened & trued by the LBS, 26mm Specialized Turbo tires capable of 130 psig, Shimano 105 crank with sturdy platform pedals.

The Rider: 285# but also muscular. Typical 10-mile/day ride with a single 20-25 mile ride on weekends. Approx. 15 mph. Occasional sprints.

The Road: Paved roads but with some potholes & irregularities. Occasional smooth dirt-track at VERY low speeds.

So... Safe or not safe? If safe, what strategies might I employ to persuade my better half?
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Safe. Keep an eye on the wheels as they are going to be the place excess wear shows up. I might consider getting a set of 36 spoke wheels built.
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Oh, and figure out how wide a tire you can mount. A nice set of 28mm or even 32mm tires might help her feel a tad more stable.
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All good points above. The frame won't be an issue: I agree on the higher spoke count wheels, 36-40 spoke

Other than that, no issues I can see!
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Yep...fine. I've been riding my roadbike since I was 318 pounds. 285? meh.
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Thanks for posting this I have been wanting to ask this hehe my mtn bike is only 1 1/2 months old though if I start looking for a road my wife is going to kill me
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Originally Posted by Shubox
Thanks for posting this I have been wanting to ask this hehe my mtn bike is only 1 1/2 months old though if I start looking for a road my wife is going to kill me
Craig's List is your friend! Just explain that a hammer is a really good tool, unless you need to take a bolt and nut apart.
Different tool for a different job!
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Or, to put it another way:

Sneakers are a perfectly serviceable shoe, but would she wear Nike's with an Evening Gown?
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lol I just tried that and got the "LOOK OF DEATH"
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Hey, good suggestion tom...I think I will try that
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Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe
Or, to put it another way:

Sneakers are a perfectly serviceable shoe, but would she wear Nike's with an Evening Gown?

Nope, she'd respond with "If you can't walk safely in 3 inch heels, then wear a nice flat."
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Nope, she'd respond with "If you can't walk safely in 3 inch heels, then wear a nice flat."
Ironically enough, as a CHild of the 70's...

The chief cause of injury in my generation was falling off our platform soles!
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Whatever you do, don't let her see the commuting or safety forum.
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Wheels are the biggest issue with 200+ riders.. 36 holes are a must.. I would also look at cyclocross bikes.. Many of the new bikes come stock with 36 hole wheels, canti brakes give you a little more stopping power and most frames are a little beefier to handle the extra abuse.. Cross bikes usually come with wider rims to accomodate up to 700x40/45 tires, but also run fine on 700x28's..

I personally have a surly crosscheck, all steel frame and love the fact that I can ride roads or trails with it.. It is a very nice and fun ride...
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Originally Posted by socalrider
Wheels are the biggest issue with 200+ riders.. 36 holes are a must.. I would also look at cyclocross bikes.. Many of the new bikes come stock with 36 hole wheels, canti brakes give you a little more stopping power and most frames are a little beefier to handle the extra abuse.. Cross bikes usually come with wider rims to accomodate up to 700x40/45 tires, but also run fine on 700x28's..

I personally have a surly crosscheck, all steel frame and love the fact that I can ride roads or trails with it.. It is a very nice and fun ride...
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Originally Posted by gattm99
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in a china shop?

elaborate?
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Originally Posted by socalrider
Wheels are the biggest issue with 200+ riders.. 36 holes are a must.. I would also look at cyclocross bikes.. Many of the new bikes come stock with 36 hole wheels, canti brakes give you a little more stopping power and most frames are a little beefier to handle the extra abuse.. Cross bikes usually come with wider rims to accomodate up to 700x40/45 tires, but also run fine on 700x28's..

I personally have a surly crosscheck, all steel frame and love the fact that I can ride roads or trails with it.. It is a very nice and fun ride...
disagree strongly on the weight/spoke count - 95kg riding 32hole

agree strongly on cyclocross - if it isn't a disc brake equipped cyclo-cross bike then...

disagree strongly on the braking - canti, caliper, rim brakes suck - get disc brakes

agree on the tire choices - more options with cyclo-cross bikes so you have a road/path/trail/off-road bike in one

disagree with steel - I went for beefy aluminIum because of rust issues in the UK
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I've got 32h wheels on my bike, and I've put it through some harsh abuse over the years. I'm not too much lighter than you, and when I'm loaded for my commute, we're about even. Granted, the 26 x 1.5 rims of a MTB are going to be more forgiving than a 700 x 20-whatever road rim, but I don't think that you have to go with 36h or 40h rims if you're not too tough on your bike. Don't go slamming it into those potholes and irregularities, and 32h rims with wider (maybe 35's) tires should work well.
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disagree strongly on the weight/spoke count - 95kg riding 32hole

agree strongly on cyclocross - if it isn't a disc brake equipped cyclo-cross bike then...

disagree strongly on the braking - canti, caliper, rim brakes suck - get disc brakes

agree on the tire choices - more options with cyclo-cross bikes so you have a road/path/trail/off-road bike in one

disagree with steel - I went for beefy aluminIum because of rust issues in the UK
Cyclocross bikes are good for cyclocross, and riding unimproved surfaces, they are usually what diehard mountain bikers get when they realize their mountain bikes suck on the road, if you are going to ride roads you don't need a cyclocross bike, you need a roadbike.

Rim brakes work fine and have for years Disc work well too, but with a weight penalty. the only advantage to I can tell them in mountain biking is riding through mud and water won't effect your brake. The few cases I could find them justified on the road is commuting where you have to ride in wet conditions, tandems, and that is about it. I don't ride through much mud or water when I road bike ride.

Steel is, well real, but it will rust if not cared for. I've had several steel bikes, rode them on the rain on occasion and never had rust problems. Though I liberally grease when building my bikes. I guess riding in the rain all the time would be a problem.
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Originally Posted by gattm99
Cyclocross bikes are good for cyclocross, and riding unimproved surfaces, they are usually what diehard mountain bikers get when they realize their mountain bikes suck on the road, if you are going to ride roads you don't need a cyclocross bike, you need a roadbike.

Rim brakes work fine and have for years Disc work well too, but with a weight penalty. the only advantage to I can tell them in mountain biking is riding through mud and water won't effect your brake. The few cases I could find them justified on the road is commuting where you have to ride in wet conditions, tandems, and that is about it. I don't ride through much mud or water when I road bike ride.

Steel is, well real, but it will rust if not cared for. I've had several steel bikes, rode them on the rain on occasion and never had rust problems. Though I liberally grease when building my bikes. I guess riding in the rain all the time would be a problem.
Try a good CX bike for commuting - I think you'll be pleasantly suprised at the quick and nimble feel to the ride. While I did have a mountainbike a while back I'd never consider using one for mostly road riding unless I could heavily customise it - throwing on a pair of slicks just doesn't cut it.

Rim brakes are ok but, as with the CX bike, once you've tried disc brakes you'll wonder why you never used them in the first place. So much better in ANY condition - DRY or wet .

Fair enough - I assume Il. has snowy winters with salt/grit on the roads? If so good job on keeping the steel bikes healthy.
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You are not too heavy for a road bike. Maybe for a lightweight carbon fiber frame with 16 spoke Campagnolo wheels, but not a well made steel or aluminum frame bike with hand built 32 or 36 spoke wheels. I'm heavier then you and ride a road bike with ease, speed, and little bit of style.
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Originally Posted by FarHorizon
Given the following road bike, what weight rider can be safely supported without fear of component failures:

The Bike: Steel-frame & fork, Nitto aluminum stem & bars, Aluminum-single-bolt seat post with steel-rail saddle, Dura-Ace 32-spoke 3-cross wheels tightened & trued by the LBS, 26mm Specialized Turbo tires capable of 130 psig, Shimano 105 crank with sturdy platform pedals.

The Rider: 285# but also muscular. Typical 10-mile/day ride with a single 20-25 mile ride on weekends. Approx. 15 mph. Occasional sprints.

The Road: Paved roads but with some potholes & irregularities. Occasional smooth dirt-track at VERY low speeds.

So... Safe or not safe? If safe, what strategies might I employ to persuade my better half?
Your fine. I started with...

Bike: Aluminum with carbon fiber fork. Carbon fiber single bolt seat post. 20 spoke front wheel, 24 spoke rear wheel. 700x25 tires at 100psi.

The rider: 289lbs.

The road: paved but pretty bad.

You will be more then fine. A lot of people recomend some bombproof wheels. I have been waiting for the stock ones to get messed up and they haven't even gone out of true yet.
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Originally Posted by markhr
Try a good CX bike for commuting - I think you'll be pleasantly suprised at the quick and nimble feel to the ride. While I did have a mountainbike a while back I'd never consider using one for mostly road riding unless I could heavily customise it - throwing on a pair of slicks just doesn't cut it.

Rim brakes are ok but, as with the CX bike, once you've tried disc brakes you'll wonder why you never used them in the first place. So much better in ANY condition - DRY or wet .

Fair enough - I assume Il. has snowy winters with salt/grit on the roads? If so good job on keeping the steel bikes healthy.
I keep a cheap clunker, just for winter riding! If it breaks, I'll just spend another $25 on Craig's list and replace it!
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I started riding my road bike 1 1/2 years ago at about 330 pounds. Similar setup (although I have 32mm tires). I'm still riding it on stock parts today.
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