Diabetes: Discussion and Experience Based Dietary Suggestion, ETC
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I'll put it to a vote, watch for the thread......
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Pardon me while I sneak across the border....
Agreed. I thought this was a group for larger riders, not a weight loss or diabetes support group. Is this not Bike Forums, after all? Diabetes and weight loss discussion can be found elsewhere on the Internet. I've already informed the moderator that there was too much focus on weight loss 'support' here. Bikes have become secondary discussions lately.
Now to return to exile before the border patrol sends me another private message....
Agreed. I thought this was a group for larger riders, not a weight loss or diabetes support group. Is this not Bike Forums, after all? Diabetes and weight loss discussion can be found elsewhere on the Internet. I've already informed the moderator that there was too much focus on weight loss 'support' here. Bikes have become secondary discussions lately.
Now to return to exile before the border patrol sends me another private message....
You make a good point, with all due respect, clydes most likely have health issues that the other riders in these forums may not. I believe we need all the support we can get whether it is on a bike forum of some other forum. Are common interest is cycling...our common goal is to be healthy and disease free. I feel very comfortable here talking about health issues; I don't in other forums. Cause personally, I don't want to meet the guy in my avatar for another half century or so. I believe anywhere we as clydes, diabetics, etc. can provide or recieve support is worthwhile, and this is one of those places. Just my two cents. I can live without the subject being a sticky.
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shows the danger of treating the Clyde forum as a "support" group. I'm always going to be a Clyde; I'd like to be able to discuss bikes as a Clyde without having to subscribe to others views on health matters. And to post without being flamed for not subscribing to those views.
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I found out I had diabetes type 2 on Friday 13 of January 2006. In about a month I had figured out that carbohydrates were the problem and eliminated them. The problem people have with low carb diets is that they still need energy. The alternative to carbs is to eat a high fat diet. The fat provides the energy and any excess just passes through your system. Unlike carbs that are stored as fat in preparation for use as energy. The best source of fat is beef - I eat one or two untrimmed ribeyes a day. I eat all the fat first then as much lean as I want. I have plenty of energy for a 40 mile ride or just to work all day.
Another reason for eating beef is that it is an excellent source of vitamins and is eaisily digestible. Lots of vegatables have high vitamin counts but are really indigestible and the vitamins are not useable. Other meats such as pork and wild game are leaner and more prone to parasites requiring the meat to be cooked longer , denaturing the vitamins.
My A1c was above 11 and my chloresterol was off the scale. Now my a1c is 4.6 and my chloresterol is way below normal.
ere's the way I was convinced about the low carb route
https://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=287013
Another reason for eating beef is that it is an excellent source of vitamins and is eaisily digestible. Lots of vegatables have high vitamin counts but are really indigestible and the vitamins are not useable. Other meats such as pork and wild game are leaner and more prone to parasites requiring the meat to be cooked longer , denaturing the vitamins.
My A1c was above 11 and my chloresterol was off the scale. Now my a1c is 4.6 and my chloresterol is way below normal.
ere's the way I was convinced about the low carb route
https://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=287013
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I found out I had diabetes type 2 on Friday 13 of January 2006. In about a month I had figured out that carbohydrates were the problem and eliminated them. The problem people have with low carb diets is that they still need energy. The alternative to carbs is to eat a high fat diet. The fat provides the energy and any excess just passes through your system. Unlike carbs that are stored as fat in preparation for use as energy. The best source of fat is beef - I eat one or two untrimmed ribeyes a day. I eat all the fat first then as much lean as I want. I have plenty of energy for a 40 mile ride or just to work all day.
Another reason for eating beef is that it is an excellent source of vitamins and is eaisily digestible. Lots of vegatables have high vitamin counts but are really indigestible and the vitamins are not useable. Other meats such as pork and wild game are leaner and more prone to parasites requiring the meat to be cooked longer , denaturing the vitamins.
My A1c was above 11 and my chloresterol was off the scale. Now my a1c is 4.6 and my chloresterol is way below normal.
ere's the way I was convinced about the low carb route
https://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=287013
Another reason for eating beef is that it is an excellent source of vitamins and is eaisily digestible. Lots of vegatables have high vitamin counts but are really indigestible and the vitamins are not useable. Other meats such as pork and wild game are leaner and more prone to parasites requiring the meat to be cooked longer , denaturing the vitamins.
My A1c was above 11 and my chloresterol was off the scale. Now my a1c is 4.6 and my chloresterol is way below normal.
ere's the way I was convinced about the low carb route
https://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=287013
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Hey DieselDan
I'm type 2 and not taking insulin. I believe the original treatment for type 1 diabetics before injectible insulin was a zero carb diet.
Steve
I'm type 2 and not taking insulin. I believe the original treatment for type 1 diabetics before injectible insulin was a zero carb diet.
Steve
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It's a balancing act, and it must be tough to keep up with every day. I wonder why they haven't come up with a pump that also tests your blood glucose levels and responds automatically. The technology must not be there yet.
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Has anyone read the book EAT TO LIVE by Joel Fuhrman? It is changing my life daily. I feel so much better just by following it for the past 2 weeks. Cravings for junk and sugar are gone! I feel better than i have in years! This is a new lifestyle, not a diet but it is working. Lots of good info even if you don't take the plunge, I ordered it from Amazon.............. I posted that in another thread but if you need a drastic change quickly I Strongly recommend! You'll NEVER look at fast food, bread, pasta, meat or dairy the same way again, or the FDA and it's regulations w/loopholes. My mother reversed her borderline diabetic state with diet(her own)........I didn't want to get to that stage so I started this on Aug 19. This is a lifestyle not a diet so my doctor can monitor my sucess with blood work and weighins. I have bigger things to worry about than keeping up with numbers. I hope to get off the BP med within the year if the results allow. I am also doing Peggy Cappy Yoga for stress and lower back pain (weight and sedentary lifestyle)
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Has anyone read the book EAT TO LIVE by Joel Fuhrman? It is changing my life daily. I feel so much better just by following it for the past 2 weeks. Cravings for junk and sugar are gone! I feel better than i have in years! This is a new lifestyle, not a diet but it is working. Lots of good info even if you don't take the plunge, I ordered it from Amazon...
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Sorry but if you had felt as bad as I did, you'd get wild eyed about feeling better too!!!! But if it will cheer you up.................I'll be sure and let ya know if I start feeling worse
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By which your endocrinologist meant that you're shooting insulin to cover the quickly available glucose in carbohydrates. Fewer carbs require less insulin. This is, in fact, the genius of the low-carb diet for diabetics - small inputs, small mistakes; big inputs, big mistakes.
It's a balancing act, and it must be tough to keep up with every day. I wonder why they haven't come up with a pump that also tests your blood glucose levels and responds automatically. The technology must not be there yet.
It's a balancing act, and it must be tough to keep up with every day. I wonder why they haven't come up with a pump that also tests your blood glucose levels and responds automatically. The technology must not be there yet.