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Old 04-25-08, 06:15 AM
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Thinnest clyde in the room

I just got back from our spring pastors' conference, and I look positively thin compared to my friends. Fifteen guys from the lower portion of our state were there. Only one guy was thinner than I am, and I am a 5' 11" clyde bouncing around between 201 and 205. I started riding again about 22 months ago and have dropped around 20 - 25 pounds. Some of the guys at the meeting have modest workout programs at the gym, yet most look like they are pregnant with quadruplets! I feel good for me, but am very much concerned for them. Yet, I think I am too fat.
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Welcome to the discovery.

Yeah, and they were likely asking you how you got in such good shape, too, weren't they?
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200.4 on my scale at home this morning.
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Originally Posted by Askel
200.4 on my scale at home this morning.
1.6 pounds to Emeritus Let me know and I'll set up your certificate
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Hey Tom

How does Emeritus status work? I've fluctuated between 198 and 202 for a few weeks now so do I get 5 certificates or do I have to wait until I stay below 200 for at least a week before I put in my application?
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Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe
1.6 pounds to Emeritus Let me know and I'll set up your certificate
200.4 would mean 0.5 pounds to Emeritus, wouldn't it?

200.4 - 0.5 = 199.9
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Given my diet right now, my weight can fluctuate quite a bit. +/- 5 lbs is relatively common. Even more is not unusual.

I'm not calling myself an ex-clyde until I have a solid week of sub 195lb weigh ins.
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Welcome, from one of the fattest clydes here
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CLose enough, fluid weight will give that much variance. Look in the Certificate thread in a few minutes

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How does Emeritus status work? I've fluctuated between 198 and 202 for a few weeks now so do I get 5 certificates or do I have to wait until I stay below 200 for at least a week before I put in my application?
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The key isnt weight...its BF %. Weighing 205 at 10% BF is a lot different from 205 at 25% BF.
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At 6'5, I am down to 230 with 15% BF. I think I can get to 225 pretty easily, but I will be in he Clyde class for the duration. I do like to keep the muscle for my job, but as I prepare for my first sprint tri I am sure the weight will hurt me and I am probably not built ideally for the sport.
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Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe
CLose enough, fluid weight will give that much variance. Look in the Certificate thread in a few minutes
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Originally Posted by twobikes
I just got back from our spring pastors' conference, and I look positively thin compared to my friends. Fifteen guys from the lower portion of our state were there. Only one guy was thinner than I am, and I am a 5' 11" clyde bouncing around between 201 and 205. I started riding again about 22 months ago and have dropped around 20 - 25 pounds. Some of the guys at the meeting have modest workout programs at the gym, yet most look like they are pregnant with quadruplets! I feel good for me, but am very much concerned for them. Yet, I think I am too fat.

Why should priesthood be a fattening profession? Cops have doughnuts...what do pastors have? Could it be all the cakes and cookies the parishoners force feed you?
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hehehe. i'd like to think i carry my weight well. actually, when i weighed in the 190's, most people guessed me around 170-175.


last year, i got down to 208. most people thought i didn't look fat anymore. right now, i'm 220 and i think i look huge.
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Congrats on your weight loss!
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Originally Posted by coasting
Why should priesthood be a fattening profession? Cops have doughnuts...what do pastors have? Could it be all the cakes and cookies the parishoners force feed you?
Carrying the burdens of all the souls under one's care....or too many Idaho Potato's (sorry, couldn't help it!)
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Originally Posted by coasting
Why should priesthood be a fattening profession? Cops have doughnuts...what do pastors have? Could it be all the cakes and cookies the parishoners force feed you?
Firstly, I am not in the priesthood. I am a Lutheran pastor, and I have a wife. She is actually pretty good about cooking very healthy things.

Like a lot of occupations, ministry requires very little physical exertion, but a lot of sitting.

Often people do bring baked goods as gifts, or there are events at which desserts are served. You have to take some so no one's feelings are hurt. Fortunately, in recent years more healthy alternatives are also frequently offered (fruit, raw vegetables). Christmas and Easter are difficult. At those times people bring gifts of fancy baked goods and candies. When my kids lived at home I could count on them to consume a lot of these things. That is no longer the situation. There is also a lot of extra work preparing for extra services during those times with plenty of extra stress. That means extra sermons to prepare. Think of researching and writing a five page report as a comparable effort. Time to ride the bike fades and it is easy to pick up energy to overcome fatigue with high calorie foods that add body weight.

In pastoral ministry there is always far more that should have been done, no matter how many hours you put in during a day or how many days in a week. Someone will always increase your guilt load by asking if you have done this or that yet, if you have visited this or that person yet. You cannot easily leave the job at the office at the end of the day, but you tend to take it home with you. There is always plenty of guilt about something everyone, including you, believes should have been done, but has not. Eating is an easy response to feel better. My physician said, "Ministry is a lousy occupation." By that he meant there are too many stresses and too few ways to get rid of them.

It is hard for a pastor to take time for daily workouts. The result is many do not and they pay for it with extra body weight and diseases related to stress.

A couple of times people thought I was not doing enough, so they came to the church office to "help out." When they learned firsthand how many things have to be handled there in the course of a week, their jaws dropped and they wondered how I was able to get done as much as I do.
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Originally Posted by twobikes
Firstly, I am not in the priesthood. I am a Lutheran pastor, and I have a wife. She is actually pretty good about cooking very healthy things.

Like a lot of occupations, ministry requires very little physical exertion, but a lot of sitting.

Often people do bring baked goods as gifts, or there are events at which desserts are served. You have to take some so no one's feelings are hurt. Fortunately, in recent years more healthy alternatives are also frequently offered (fruit, raw vegetables). Christmas and Easter are difficult. At those times people bring gifts of fancy baked goods and candies. When my kids lived at home I could count on them to consume a lot of these things. That is no longer the situation. There is also a lot of extra work preparing for extra services during those times with plenty of extra stress. That means extra sermons to prepare. Think of researching and writing a five page report as a comparable effort. Time to ride the bike fades and it is easy to pick up energy to overcome fatigue with high calorie foods that add body weight.

In pastoral ministry there is always far more that should have been done, no matter how many hours you put in during a day or how many days in a week. Someone will always increase your guilt load by asking if you have done this or that yet, if you have visited this or that person yet. You cannot easily leave the job at the office at the end of the day, but you tend to take it home with you. There is always plenty of guilt about something everyone, including you, believes should have been done, but has not. Eating is an easy response to feel better. My physician said, "Ministry is a lousy occupation." By that he meant there are too many stresses and too few ways to get rid of them.

It is hard for a pastor to take time for daily workouts. The result is many do not and they pay for it with extra body weight and diseases related to stress.

A couple of times people thought I was not doing enough, so they came to the church office to "help out." When they learned firsthand how many things have to be handled there in the course of a week, their jaws dropped and they wondered how I was able to get done as much as I do.
Wow. Great answer.

It would be good to educate the flock to allow for some personal care time for self and family. After all, you won't be around to care for them if you don't first take care of yourself and your family.



That's a hard thing to get across to folks in need sometimes though.
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Originally Posted by JohnKScott
Wow. Great answer.

It would be good to educate the flock to allow for some personal care time for self and family. After all, you won't be around to care for them if you don't first take care of yourself and your family.



That's a hard thing to get across to folks in need sometimes though.
Thanks, John. I do not want to sound like I am whining. I am in pastoral ministry because I believe it is where God called me to be. And, I believe what I do is important work.

A lot more attention has been given to ministerial health at the denomination headquarters level in recent decades. The first problem is to get pastors to take better care of themselves. I decided I would start riding my bike again after some years of almost no riding. I knew no one was going to do it for me. One of the church elders recently commented that I seem to be more easy going since. "Easy going" is a good asset when your job is primarily relating to people. That is a positive benefit, in addition to reducing costs in the church wide health insurance program.

The second problem is to get congregations to value time for the pastor to become more physically fit. Some congregations and some individuals within many congregations are dysfunctional. Dysfunctional people can make pastors into whipping boys whom they regularly abuse. They often want to control every aspect of the pastor's day so they are getting their money's worth out of him. This can be very hard on the pastor and on his family. Fortunately, the congregation I presently serve is very, very good. I try not to let my cycling interfere with ministry tasks, although it probably does at times.

There is another positive aspect of the pastor taking time for something like cycling. In recent years there have been some books about the feminization of churches. When men perceive the church is dominated by female interests, they shy away. One thing that helps is for the pastor to have plenty of masculine interests on display. While there are women who are better cyclists than I will ever be, when people at church hear that I buzzed off 50 miles on my bike, my stock rises a few points in the eyes of all, including the men.
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In recent years there have been some books about the feminization of churches. When men perceive the church is dominated by female interests, they shy away.
That is sad in so many ways.
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There is another positive aspect of the pastor taking time for something like cycling. In recent years there have been some books about the feminization of churches. When men perceive the church is dominated by female interests, they shy away. One thing that helps is for the pastor to have plenty of masculine interests on display. While there are women who are better cyclists than I will ever be, when people at church hear that I buzzed off 50 miles on my bike, my stock rises a few points in the eyes of all, including the men.
Yes.

Our church has a ministry called HD Men where men with similar interests (usually stuff like cycling, cars, dirt bikes, basketball, etc) get together and do it. Plus service opportunites are sprouted from this group. Or so I hear. I haven't gotten involved yet

Sounds like you may have happened upon a possibly profitable direction for your congregation with your cycling...

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Sounds like you may have happened upon a possibly profitable direction for your congregation with your cycling...

You should have been at our church for a fish fry one Saturday evening two days after I picked up my "new" 8mm Yugoslav Mauser military surplus rifle. The word had already spread through all of the men. They made me feel like a rock star.
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That is sad in so many ways.
Not really. The book "Why Men Hate Going to Church" is a good and eye-opening read. The author (forgot his name--check Amazon) makes the point very well that when men's interests enjoy a prominent place, the women will come, too. Women like to be around men who are men, not pansies. But, when the church prominently uses feminine language, caters to feminine interests, and is largely run by women; the men disappear. When the men disappear, the youth also disappear. He argues that Jesus and the disciples engaged in thoroughly masculine endeavors. It was in much more recent centuries that the church became feminized.
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Originally Posted by twobikes
Not really. The book "Why Men Hate Going to Church" is a good and eye-opening read. The author (forgot his name--check Amazon) makes the point very well that when men's interests enjoy a prominent place, the women will come, too. Women like to be around men who are men, not pansies. But, when the church prominently uses feminine language, caters to feminine interests, and is largely run by women; the men disappear. When the men disappear, the youth also disappear. He argues that Jesus and the disciples engaged in thoroughly masculine endeavors. It was in much more recent centuries that the church became feminized.
Interesting. Anything I have to add will move this to P&R - so back to the original topic....
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