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Old 07-10-08, 03:43 PM
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Peanut Butter

What do you all think of peanut butter as a pre-ride energizer/protein supplier? Is there too much fat? 1 peice of bread, folded in half, with about a tablespoon of pb, toasted in a toaster oven. 95 cal, 8g fat, 3 carb, 4 protein in 1 tbs of pb and 65/1/12/2 respectively in one piece of wheat bread. This is tasty and I don't have to wait too long for it to digest. I seemed to have plenty of energy for my 35 mile ride last night but I still wonder if there is too much fat. I'm trying to lose weight. I've noticed, by using fitday.com that my carb:fat: protein ratio is pretty high in fat. Any other options for people trying to lose weight? I checked the Training & Nutrition forum and most people said they ate big breakfasts...
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Make Peanut Butter pie!
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I have pb and honey sandwiches on rides for energy. As long as you don't overdo it, I think it's fine.

That said, I tend to overdo stuff, so I just have them on rides.

I used fitday too, and my dist of fat/carbs/protein is 30/50/20 or so. That seems to work for me. *They* say that for healthy eating, about 30% fat is good. Some days I am as high as 36, though.

These are wimmin's guidelines.

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I've been known to consume peanut butter and banana sandwich. Peanut butter for the carbs and the banana for the potassium (prevents muscle cramps).

I'm a type 2 diabetic, and I will tell you that peanut butter will "stick with you" if you don't burn it off.
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I eat a PB and honey sandwich every morning before my ride. Banana when I get home.
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What do you all think of peanut butter as a pre-ride energizer/protein supplier? Is there too much fat? 1 peice of bread, folded in half, with about a tablespoon of pb, toasted in a toaster oven. 95 cal, 8g fat, 3 carb, 4 protein in 1 tbs of pb and 65/1/12/2 respectively in one piece of wheat bread. This is tasty and I don't have to wait too long for it to digest. I seemed to have plenty of energy for my 35 mile ride last night but I still wonder if there is too much fat. I'm trying to lose weight. I've noticed, by using fitday.com that my carb:fat: protein ratio is pretty high in fat. Any other options for people trying to lose weight? I checked the Training & Nutrition forum and most people said they ate big breakfasts...
From a 'ride' point of view, way to much fat, too much protein and not enough carbs. If you break your breakfast down you get 60 Calories from carbs, 24 Cal from protein and 81 Cal from fat= 36% carbs, 15% protein and 46% fat.

Let's say you do 16mph on the 35 mile ride= 2.2 hrs. Assuming you're not small, let's give it 600 Cal/hr= 1320 Cal. At about 200 Cal/hr from STORED fat, that would be 440 Cal. That leaves a need for 880 from carbs; you ate 60= 820 more needed. There will also be a small amount of protein required for recovery.

Bottom line: about 2/3 of the Cal from your breakfast are unnecessary to ride.

I would suggest oat meal, apple sauce, yogurt and banana.

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I always chow down a kashi blueberry waffle covered in PB along with about a cup full of mixed fruit on my long ride mornings about 45 minutes pre ride.
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Peanut butter on whole wheat bread is a healthy source of protein & carbs. Adding a banana or other form of fruit for the fiber and minerals is even better. Peanut butter has a healthy form of fat that is good for your heart. You can log on to the Prevention mag website and read about peanut butter and its benefits. Peanut butter on apple slices is also a great snack.
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Depending on the type of bread and peanut butter, it can be a pretty healthy snack, or it can be not so good. With Skippy or Jif or one of those, you're getting hydrogenated fat and sugar/corn syrup which you don't need, and a lot of "wheat bread" is really just wonder bread with a little added color. A modest amount of natural peanut butter is calorically dense and high in fat, but it's good fat, and a small slice of whole-grain bread is a good source of carbs.
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Organic PB, Honey and whole wheat bread(1 slice). I've been consuming them for my pre-workout snack for a long time and still managed to lose 150lbs. So go for it, but go easy on the PB.
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Two Special K waffles with natural peanut butter and banana.
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+1 on the unsugared (and unsalted) natural types.
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Originally Posted by tea
+1 on the unsugared (and unsalted) natural types.
Isn't carbohydrate (sugar) what you want for a ride? Don't riders pay big money for electrolytes (includes salt)? I don't get all these answers touting something that is over 70% fat calories as good pre-ride nutrition. Isn't this a cycling forum? - TF
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had pb and jelly sandwiches today after running in a duathlon...they were great!
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Scientific Peanut butter studies blah blah blah! I ate 2 P&J sandwiches 52 miles into this ride. Felt like a new man on the remainder of the climb. And that's all I gotta say about that!

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Originally Posted by TurboTurtle
Isn't carbohydrate (sugar) what you want for a ride? Don't riders pay big money for electrolytes (includes salt)? I don't get all these answers touting something that is over 70% fat calories as good pre-ride nutrition. Isn't this a cycling forum? - TF
It's more the type of sugar than the sugar per se--it says PB & honey sandwiches up there. I'm picky about what kind is in my running drink too. HFCS=not good. We take in a lot of hidden sodium in foods, and so I choose unsalted. And to those who object to the fat: in moderation. I measure it carefully when I eat it. Most spreads and things like that are high in fat, but on average I don't eat more than 30% of my calories from fat daily.

I suppose I'm saying that of sugar and fat, for me fat is a *slightly* lesser evil, and I don't go over the top with it.

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My observation is that the one little tablespoon of peanut butter on the sandwich isn't the problem. The big ol' heapin' helpin' of peanut butter on the spoon that you eat while you're making the sandwich, that's the problem. Sort of like Garfield, where he at the lettuce leaf, lightly seasoned with a quart of mayonaise.
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Scientific Peanut butter studies blah blah blah! I ate 2 P&J sandwiches 52 miles into this ride. Felt like a new man on the remainder of the climb. And that's all I gotta say about that!

+1. Aside from it being a 'trigger food' for me, peanut butter is great.
 
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I have moved to having PB on some 100% whole wheat (need to read the label on bread if you are buying it!) instead of a more traditional breakfast of eggs, sausage, homefries and toast. The fat content is in fact up there, but over the course of a day, my total fat calorie ratio is around 30+%, so I am happy about that. I have a side-car of oatmeal with it, and I am good till lunch.

What is bad is when I forget to bring the PB from home, meaning that I grab the more processed stuff from the cafeteria, which is loaded with hydro-fats. At home, I buy organic 100% PB-nothing added but salt (I know I know, but it will take a while to get me to the unsalted stuff)
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Originally Posted by TurboTurtle
Isn't carbohydrate (sugar) what you want for a ride? Don't riders pay big money for electrolytes (includes salt)? I don't get all these answers touting something that is over 70% fat calories as good pre-ride nutrition. Isn't this a cycling forum? - TF
I don't get where you're getting the "NONONO ALL FAT BAD MUST NOT EVER!!!" thing from. Throwback to the early '90s, maybe, and the advent of those godawful "Healthy Choice" foods? They were full of sugar and gosh, didn't they ever turn out to be healthy!!!

Nobody's saying eat a cup of peanut butter and then ride. Read for content.
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Keep it to about a Ping Pong ball size serving.

Even thought its been marked as the devil's food, regular PB has very little hydrated stuff in it. Read up on it.

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If your really in the mood for PB before a ride, try using Organic Peanut Butter that comes with Sunflower Seeds mixed. I think a low fat turkey on wheat is still a great pre ride snack!
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Peanut butter is great, and thanks to being high in protein its great for keeping you un-hungry. Almond butter is another great one
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