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Old 08-21-08, 11:04 PM
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No, Clydes aren't stupid! And Yes.......

No, we aren't stupid and we know about bikes. I don't visit the shops much but when I do, the guys think I'm stupid. Maybe they aren't used to us big guys knowing something about bikes. I walked into a shop today and asked for a 9 speed SRAM chain (I like the ez link thingy). The guy pulls out a box and says $43!

"Uhh no, I want the $21 chain" I said. He says, oh sorry, I didn't realize we had that one! Yeah ok, like a lighter chain is going to serve me better!
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Ugh, I dread going into certain establishments based on past experiences where certain assumptions appear to be in place about my knowledge of what I'm shopping for.

Thankfully, I have found that the more I go, the less this seems to be happening.
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After being thoroughly underwhelmed by the LBSes here I generally order from online sources and have collected the tools to do my own maintenance. Oh well.
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my guys are great. That being said I walked out of 3 other shops becaue they either cater to races and will ignore the fat guy or tried to sell me a bike that was totally wrong for me and was on there sale rack.
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Man, I'm happy with the LBS I deal with! They've ALWAYS taken good care of me, and go with the most cost effective solution.
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Man, I'm happy with the LBS I deal with! They've ALWAYS taken good care of me, and go with the most cost effective solution.

I have hope for one, even though I once proclaimed that I would never again darken it's doorway. I have another LBS that isn't much for accessories, but great on service.

I have actually become quite fond of a local chapter of a national chain. The guys working there are really helpful, and don't mind just talking if there isn't someone else who needs help.
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I've walked out of 2 specialized shops feeling somewhere between ignored and insulted. I had a shop back in KY that was great; I would walk in, tell them exactly what I wanted, we'd strike up a conversation on what I was doing to the bike, I even got advice that I hadn't heard anywhere else before.

Funny, REI's kinda like that up here.

But if you really want some decent attention, just show up in stinky kit. Works every time no matter how much they'd like to neglect you.
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No, we aren't stupid and we know about bikes. I don't visit the shops much but when I do, the guys think I'm stupid.
You have no idea. Try being female.

(and yet, I've never had a problem at my LBS...but in general, when it comes to anything involving a)money b)driving c)physical activity d)mathematics e)science f)politics g)finding one's way from point A to point B or h)fixing that which is broken, men are presumed to automatically know more than women)
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a local shop I've purchased accessories from wouldn't take 5 minutes from their "busy schedule" to do a simple derailleur adjustment. The other shop got me fixed up in less than 10 minutes and made a spare spoke for me. I saw a nice rack bag on the way out (large enough for my new camera and lens) that I had to buy.

Of course I was admonished for buying a department store bike. After all, he can order anything I could have wanted in a touring bike... I didn't have to "settle" for my Randonnee.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
No, we aren't stupid and we know about bikes. I don't visit the shops much but when I do, the guys think I'm stupid. Maybe they aren't used to us big guys knowing something about bikes. I walked into a shop today and asked for a 9 speed SRAM chain (I like the ez link thingy). The guy pulls out a box and says $43!

"Uhh no, I want the $21 chain" I said. He says, oh sorry, I didn't realize we had that one! Yeah ok, like a lighter chain is going to serve me better!
You should've hucked off his head.
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I have a 2007 Schwinn Fastback that I picked up off a ebay a few months ago. When I tried to drop off my bike for a tuneup a few weeks ago, the high school kid behind the counter told me that they would not work it, because it was a department store bike. After explaining to the kid that there is a difference between an X-Mart sold Pacific bike with a Schwinn logo, and a Schwinn road bike, he finally agreed that they could work on the bike.
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Originally Posted by lil brown bat View Post
You have no idea. Try being female.
Can I keep all my pieces parts, but still get invited to the pajama parties?
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Can I keep all my pieces parts, but still get invited to the pajama parties?
No. You may not.

(if you want, I'll tell you my mom's story of what happened when an ImposterMan was discovered at the annual Wellesley College hoop roll)
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No. You may not.

(if you want, I'll tell you my mom's story of what happened when an ImposterMan was discovered at the annual Wellesley College hoop roll)
As long as it doesn't include graphic photos....
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Originally Posted by lil brown bat View Post
You have no idea. Try being female.
I've been trying for the last 15 minutes. Nothing happened. I give up.
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Originally Posted by racethenation View Post
kid behind the counter told me that they would not work it, because it was a department store bike.
Very poor business practice, if you ask me.

I heard a story about a guy I used to work for... back in the early 70's a major dept/hardware/autoparts store began agressively marketing and selling bicycles. There was a meeting between all the bike shop owners in the city (like a summit of all the 'Dons') and the primary idea they were considering was to not service department store bikes for people. My boss said: "someone is going to offer me money to fix their bike and you think I should refuse? No way!" He heard someone say quietly to another "let's see how long the new guy stays in business..."
I started working for him in 2000 (he was 30 years in business) and he has just recently passed his stores (small chain now) on to his sons. All but one of the other businesses represented at that meeting are long gone.
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Of course I was admonished for buying a department store bike. After all, he can order anything I could have wanted in a touring bike... I didn't have to "settle" for my Randonnee.
That's just wrong. I guess I'm just lucky. Both the LBS's near me offer great service with no attitude or high pressure sales tactics. So does my local REI where I bought my Randonee...
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I've been really fortunate. I live in a small town and only have one shop within 50 miles and it's owned by a guy almost as big as I am. They've been helpful and supportive and the more enthusiastic I get (the more obvious I'm going to buy another bike soon) the more cooperative and helpful they've been. They originally sold me an upright hybrid comfort bike because that's what I asked for. It's perfect for my commuting and it's helped me lose weight and get stronger. Now that I'm looking to go further, faster they keep showing me my options without pressuring me. When I replaced my chain they showed me options beginning with $15 and going up. I decided to spend a few bucks more but they made it my choice.
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I'm an equipment mechanic for a living. I sometimes have to shop during my lunch hour and I'm usually pretty shall we say "grungy" by then. I've been around road bikes since my Campy equipped 1972 Legnano. While shopping at one of the local shops I was told the Tiagra gruppo on the bike was the same as Ultegra.

Young pierced mechanic at the same shop (after my mentioning liking an old steel frame road bike there) that it wasn't steel it was chrome moly. Didn't bother to tell him I'd been an aircraft mechanic for years and was very familiar with 4130 and the like.
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Originally Posted by lil brown bat View Post
You have no idea. Try being female.

(and yet, I've never had a problem at my LBS...but in general, when it comes to anything involving a)money b)driving c)physical activity d)mathematics e)science f)politics g)finding one's way from point A to point B or h)fixing that which is broken, men are presumed to automatically know more than women)
Oh yes I do. The best parts person I ever worked with was female. I'd love to have made a dollar every time some idiot would want to speak to someone who knew what they were doing. Always made me laugh when she would go get one of the managers and he would ask what the problem was. The customer would usually reply something to the effect of needing to speak to someone that knew something and the guy would turn the customer back over to Karen.
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You have no idea. Try being female.

(and yet, I've never had a problem at my LBS...but in general, when it comes to anything involving a)money b)driving c)physical activity d)mathematics e)science f)politics g)finding one's way from point A to point B or h)fixing that which is broken, men are presumed to automatically know more than women)
My LBS is owned and run by a woman, so I get good service there.
 
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My LBS is owned and run by a woman, so I get good service there.
Must...resist...asking...
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After visiting some of the LBS around the NYC area, I found one that was able to help me with my first buildup. Even though I didn't purchase any major components from them, the manager gave his time and opinion on what was out in the market and what would be suitable for a first time roadie/clyde. After completing my buildup, I didn't hesitate to bring the bike to them for some fine tuning. Not only did he tune my bike at a very reasonable cost, he even matched the lowest price from another LBS for a set of shimano rd540 pedals. I've already put close to 100 miles since last weekend and I'm glad Allan from Buddy's Bicycle in Queens was helpful from day 1.
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Must...resist...asking...

Oh come on, ASK
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