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Old 03-25-09, 06:43 PM
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The injury list

Okay, so Tom is off the DL, Lance is on it.

Lance Armstrong crashed last week in Spain, broken collarbone. I know he is the rider people love to hate, but personally I say, get well soon Lance.....
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I've been on it all week. Went off the road at 25mph descending a 12% grade. Separated shoulder. I'll have a "hump" for the rest of my meager life. Oh well.

Doctor said not to ride for 3 weeks. I'm thinking Friday might be better.
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My wife was telling me she was reading that it took 12 screws to put his shoulder back together ! A lot worse than origganaly thought . I like Lance he is American and the French hate him enough for me to support him !!!!

I wish him well and a speedy recovery .
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Originally Posted by JimF22003
I've been on it all week. Went off the road at 25mph descending a 12% grade. Separated shoulder. I'll have a "hump" for the rest of my meager life. Oh well.

Doctor said not to ride for 3 weeks. I'm thinking Friday might be better.
Always, always, always listen to your doctor, the last thing you want is to injure things more. If you have a trainer, that might be an idea, put the bike on the trainer, so you can keep the legs fresh while the shoulder heals.
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Lance fan or not, one really does have to respect his accomplishments and efforts in overcoming the cancer. I hated to hear about his wreck and wish him well.

As for professional cycling....too much doping going on, and I do not know what to make of the race results anymore. Cycling is like baseball for me now: Who cares; just say'n.
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Originally Posted by baron von trail
Lance fan or not, one really does have to respect his accomplishments and efforts in overcoming the cancer. I hated to hear about his wreck and wish him well.

As for professional cycling....too much doping going on, and I do not know what to make of the race results anymore. Cycling is like baseball for me now: Who cares; just say'n.
+1, To tell you the truth, all professional sports are questionable to me now. With drug use and the off field scandals, I could really care less about them any more.
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Do you mean to tell me that there are professional sports!? I thought they all ended in college.

Maybe they should.

Seriously, as much as I watch sports (believe it or not, it's actually part of my job), I'm more for the event and less for the team or person.

That being said, I hope Lance and all injured athletes have a speedy and successful recovery.

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Originally Posted by baron von trail
Cycling is like baseball for me now: Who cares; just say'n.
I agree with you. But I think it's funny how the media gives baseball and cycling all the bad press, and never mentions the NFL.

People say Barry Bonds HAS to be on steroids just because of his build. But by that reasoning, everyone in the NFL has got to be on them. Hell, they got towell boys as big as Barry.
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Originally Posted by Butterthebean
I agree with you. But I think it's funny how the media gives baseball and cycling all the bad press, and never mentions the NFL.

People say Barry Bonds HAS to be on steroids just because of his build. But by that reasoning, everyone in the NFL has got to be on them. Hell, they got towell boys as big as Barry.
Yeah, football players are def roided up. That's for sure.

I'm sort of wondering just how much of it is in HS and college these days.
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One of my sons played on the infield for a major college baseball team. He told me he was the ONLY starter, including pitchers, not on steriods. He said he had no chance to go pro without using them, but he was too slow anyway.
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Originally Posted by baron von trail
Yeah, football players are def roided up. That's for sure.

I'm sort of wondering just how much of it is in HS and college these days.
Actually we are hearing about it in our small Iowa town of kids in middle school starting on them. Their parents think it is the only way.
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Originally Posted by atcfoody
Do you mean to tell me that there are professional sports!? I thought they all ended in college.

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To clarify, there is ONLY SEC college football. Everything else is unworthy. Just kidding, no flamethrowers please! Personally, I lose interest after the college level. I respect your right to be interested in anything you choose, and my right to poke good-natured fun at you for it!
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Originally Posted by flip18436572
Actually we are hearing about it in our small Iowa town of kids in middle school starting on them. Their parents think it is the only way.
That is truly sad to hear. Big money has corrupted most pro sports and now kids feel the need to take roids just to compete at the middle school level. Unfortunately, winning at any cost has replaced the pure joy of competition and the simple virtue of doing your best is good enough.
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+1, To tell you the truth, all professional sports are questionable to me now. With drug use and the off field scandals, I could really care less about them any more.
Drug use has been a feature of sports for a long time. Tom Simpson died of it in the 1967 Tour de France:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Sim...pson_and_drugs

And I can't help but think of a chessplayer, Zukertort, who used drugs to aid his playing. In 1883.
 
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Originally Posted by Hill-Pumper
That is truly sad to hear. Big money has corrupted most pro sports and now kids feel the need to take roids just to compete at the middle school level. Unfortunately, winning at any cost has replaced the pure joy of competition and the simple virtue of doing your best is good enough.
Yes and when they start dying of strokes at age 19, who do you blame?
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Originally Posted by baron von trail
Yeah, football players are def roided up. That's for sure.

One would have thought that the death of Lyle Alzado, directly attributed to Steroids, would have brought more attention to the problem in the NFL.
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Sad to say, but I have heard from another recreational bike rider, albeit one who is much more into the sport than I am, that he personally knew several steroid users. This guy said that these folks took the drugs as an aid for daily recovery. Hence, rec riders were using roids in an effort to enhance their cycling abilities, strictly to feed their ego.

Now that's really stupid....unless I am missing something about roids having a beneficial aspect for a person's long term health, which I seriously doubt.
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Originally Posted by pipes
My wife was telling me she was reading that it took 12 screws to put his shoulder back together ! A lot worse than originally thought ..
On the plus side, I read that it wasn't as bad as it sounds. They used more screws than they normally would because he is a pro cyclist and his shoulder would be put under alot of stress

Link to the article.
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Originally Posted by baron von trail
Sad to say, but I have heard from another recreational bike rider, albeit one who is much more into the sport than I am, that he personally knew several steroid users. This guy said that these folks took the drugs as an aid for daily recovery. Hence, rec riders were using roids in an effort to enhance their cycling abilities, strictly to feed their ego.

Now that's really stupid....unless I am missing something about roids having a beneficial aspect for a person's long term health, which I seriously doubt.
At the gym I used to go to, some of the 'serious' lifters would openly talk about their drug use. I found it both sad and funny. I don't care how big your muscles are, getting shot in the butt with chemicals isn't manly. Nor is bragging about it.
 
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Originally Posted by The Historian
At the gym I used to go to, some of the 'serious' lifters would openly talk about their drug use. I found it both sad and funny. I don't care how big your muscles are, getting shot in the butt with chemicals isn't manly. Nor is bragging about it.
I use to see the same thing at the gym that I go to. When I was into lifting, I hung out with that crowd and could not believe how easy some of the guys said the stuff was to get. It was one of the things that turned my off to competitive body building. I am not sure that it is the case anymore or not, but there use to be an all natural class as well as an anything goes class in body building. It just seem strange to me that there is a pro drug use category in body building.
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