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Old 03-31-09, 11:32 AM
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Coffee and bike fitness

I'll admit to enjoying coffee. I'll even have a cup an hour before a 2.5 hour ride.

I realize this raises the heart rate, any other issues to worry about?
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I realize this raises the heart rate, any other issues to worry about?
I believe it makes you more awesome.
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I have never heard of any issues, there are even some energy gels that have a bunch of caffiene. From what my Doc told me coffee even has cholesterol in it.(Go figure) Then she gives me crestor!
Like they say, consult a physician before starting any exercise program
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The only real issue is that caffeine is a diuretic, so you might need to hydrate and/or relieve yourself more quickly than you might otherwise. There are a number of studies that say caffeine is an excellent performance enhancer, especially for endurance athletes. A 2.5 hour ride qualifies, in my opinion, as an endurance ride.
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I thought the main benifit from riding was from the elevated heart rate. Bottom line, anything can be overdone (even things that are good for you). So moderation is the key. I'll take coffee with me on cold rides but I worry more about the extra bathroom breaks it causes.
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I worry more about the extra bathroom breaks it causes.
especially with bib shorts!
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Originally Posted by 1bluetrek View Post
I have never heard of any issues, there are even some energy gels that have a bunch of caffiene. From what my Doc told me coffee even has cholesterol in it.(Go figure) Then she gives me crestor!
Like they say, consult a physician before starting any exercise program
Cholesterol is only found in animal products, coffee is a plant, so there should be no cholesterol in it.
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Mmmm, coffee!!!

Even if it caused me to pee at random times, I'm so addicted to it that I'd probably solve the problem by wearing a diaper.
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Coffee can lessen the pain of exercise
Caffeine eases aftereffects of athletic exertion, new study suggests
By LiveScience Staff
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updated 11:54 a.m. CT, Tues., March. 31, 2009
That cup of coffee that many gym rats, bikers and runners swill before a workout does more than energize them. It kills some of the pain of athletic exertion, a new study suggests. And it works regardless of whether a person already had a coffee habit or not.

Caffeine works on a system in the brain and spinal cord (the adenosine neuromodulatory system) that is heavily involved in pain processing, says University of Illinois kinesiology and community health professor Robert Motl. And since caffeine blocks adenosine, the biochemical that plays an important role in energy transfer and thus exercise, he speculated that it could reduce pain.

So the researcher, a former competitive cyclist, divided 25 fit, college-aged males into two distinct groups: subjects whose everyday caffeine consumption was extremely low to non-existent, and those with an average caffeine intake of about 400 milligrams a day, the equivalent of three to four cups of coffee.

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After completing an initial exercise test in the lab on a stationary bike to determine maximal oxygen consumption or aerobic power, subjects returned for two monitored high-intensity, 30-minute exercise sessions.

An hour prior to each session, cyclists who had been instructed not to consume caffeine during the prior 24-hour period were given a pill. On one occasion, it contained a dose of caffeine measuring 5 milligrams per kilogram of body weight (equivalent to two to three cups of coffee); the other time, they received a placebo.

During both exercise periods, subjects' perceptions of quadriceps muscle pain was recorded at regular intervals, along with data on oxygen consumption, heart rate and work rate.

"What we saw is something we didn't expect," Motl said. "Caffeine-nave individuals and habitual users have the same amount of reduction in pain during exercise after caffeine (consumption)."

The results are detailed in the April edition of the International Journal of Sport Nutrition and Exercise Metabolism. Co-authors included Steven P. Broglio of the University of Illinois and Sigurbjorn A. Arngrimsson of the Center for Sport and Health Sciences, Iceland University of Education.

"Clearly, if you regularly consume caffeine, you have to have more to have that bigger, mental-energy effect," Motl said. "But the tolerance effect is not ubiquitous across all stimuli. Even brain metabolism doesn't show this tolerance-type effect. That is, with individuals who are habitual users versus non-habitual users, if you give them caffeine and do brain imaging, the activation is identical. It's really interesting why some processes show tolerance and others don't."

Regarding the outcome of the current research, he said, it may be that tolerance to caffeine plays no role in the way it diminishes pain during exercise.

Motl said one of the next logical steps for his research team would be to conduct studies with rodents in order to better understand the biological mechanism for caffeine in reducing pain.

"If we can get at the biological mechanism, we can begin to understand why there may or may not be this kind of tolerance."

Will it help you win?
Motl previously has conducted other studies on the relationship between physical activity and caffeine, and considered such variables as exercise intensity, dose of caffeine, anxiety sensitivity and gender. A future research direction might be to determine caffeine's effect on sport performance.

"We've shown that caffeine reduces pain reliably, consistently during cycling, across different intensities, across different people, different characteristics. But does that reduction in pain translate into an improvement in sport performance?" he said.


Meanwhile, the current research could prove encouraging for a range of people, including the average person who wants to become more physically active to realize the health benefits.

"One of the things that may be a practical application, is if you go to the gym and you exercise and it hurts, you may be prone to stop doing that because pain is an aversive stimulus that tells you to withdraw," Motl said. "So if we could give people a little caffeine and reduce the amount of pain they're experiencing, maybe that would help them stick with that exercise."

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Coffee rocks. I drink a bunch of it everyday.

This season, I have even begun a new habit. I take down an 8 oz cup of pure black java after the last meal on my century rides, call it at the 90 mile mark. It helps pull me out of the "man this sucks" mode and lets me finish the ride with a little bit of gusto. By the time I wheel up the "long hill" and approach the house, I almost feel ready to do another 100. Well...not quite, but you get the idea.
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I think a bit of coffee is benign at worst. I drink one or two cups a day of very strong coffee. I need it badly, but I don't need much.
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I too am addicted to the stuff. But I try to limit myself to no more than one pot per day...
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Originally Posted by Cully_J View Post
Mmmm, coffee!!!

Even if it caused me to pee at random times, I'm so addicted to it that I'd probably solve the problem by wearing a diaper.
Just consdier how unsightly that would look under cycling shorts!
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I used to drink coffee. Thought I needed it to start my morning. One day as a friend kissed me on the cheek I noticed the awful coffee breath smell and realize =whew!= I probably smell the same. Went cold turkey that very day (about 20 years ago)! Never look back and don't miss it. I'm pretty much a water person now with an occasion ice tea (no sugar) and after a long ride, sometimes a Coke. I found out caffeine was totally unneccesary...
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I used to drink coffee. Thought I needed it to start my morning. One day as a friend kissed me on the cheek I noticed the awful coffee breath smell and realize =whew!= I probably smell the same. Went cold turkey that very day (about 20 years ago)! Never look back and don't miss it. I'm pretty much a water person now with an occasion ice tea (no sugar) and after a long ride, sometimes a Coke. I found out caffeine was totally unneccesary...
I'm so sorry to hear that. I don't smoke or drink. Coffee is my only pleasure anymore. What would life be like without at least one vice?
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A lot a things in life are unnecassary but I enjoy coffee ! A lot a times I stop for a coffee on my ride and there is a very good shop on my daily route ! I like soft drinks sugar free and loads a stuf do I find them nessary NO . BUT I likem be a perty DULL life if we cut out everything we like but was unnecessary IMHO ymmv .
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Good subject! I'm trying to get in condition to do the work commute on my bike (14 miles one way), and about a third of the way along I go through a quaint little town with a terrific coffee shop. I thought it would be cool to take a break, enjoy my morning cup of joe, then cruise on. I'm not hearing any reasons NOT to do this. Cool!

Oh, and I'm not too shy to whiz by the side of the road if the need arises.
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Oh, and I'm not too shy to whiz by the side of the road if the need arises.
Can 82,060,000 Germans be wrong?

Yes! When I was in Germany, I was told it was legal to discreetly whip it out and let it whiz when the need arises as long as you don't cause an impediment to traffic.

Here's a joke I heard once:

There was an American woman tourist walking through a park in Munich when she noticed a German guy taking a whiz in the bushes.

She says, "That's GROSS!"

German guy says, "Danke."

I drink coffee. Even though I take diuretics for high blood pressure I manage to hold it until I make it to a proper utility.
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I'm so sorry to hear that. I don't smoke or drink. Coffee is my only pleasure anymore. What would life be like without at least one vice?
Oh I have vices... this is the Clyde forum is it not? Just coffee aint one of them! BTW I have also never smoked or drank alcohol either. Don't see the point ... now Baskins Robbins Jamocha Almond Fudge... 'nuther story!
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Originally Posted by Tex_Arcana View Post
Can 82,060,000 Germans be wrong?

Yes! When I was in Germany, I was told it was legal to discreetly whip it out and let it whiz when the need arises as long as you don't cause an impediment to traffic.

Here's a joke I heard once:

There was an American woman tourist walking through a park in Munich when she noticed a German guy taking a whiz in the bushes.

She says, "That's GROSS!"

German guy says, "Danke."

I drink coffee. Even though I take diuretics for high blood pressure I manage to hold it until I make it to a proper utility.
Haha, LOL'd.

I was pretty shocked to see a guy emerge from a car with a PL sticker at an autobahn gas station and walk away from the station with readily available toilets out into the grass near his car and relieve himself.

Missing me some Kronung coffee.
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You should see the start line for the SiR brevets... lots of people milling about in the cold, holding up their bike with one hand and sipping a coffee from the other, before heading out on a 100k - 200k ride.
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Heh....I just have to pipe up in here, even though I'd rather smile before a firing squad than drink coffee (I've had maybe half a cup in my entire life). I have to agree with the vice part - we're human beings, after all, not machines. My personal vice is diet soda followed by steak - always been a meat and potatoes guy. Other than that I don't smoke, seldom drink (although I did tie one on for a classmate's birthday in OKC the other weekend by slamming down 10-12 shots of Patron, that stuff was really good).

As for the call of nature, well.....let's just say I can hold quite a bit! But one time after driving back from Atlanta I got to where I simply couldn't hang on a moment longer, and when I had to stop at an RR crossing (only 2 miles from home!) for a slow moving coal train, I got out and ran down the embankment to relieve myself. Alas, the end of the train came first and I had to run back to the car because I was blocking a freeway exit ramp (some of you folks might even guess where this is ! Some folks were NOT HAPPY!

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I have blood in my caffiene system. I drink 6 to 7 cups a day; however i've noticed in the past 6 months or so I have to cut myself off before 4pm.
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I read somewhere that it caffeine restricts blood flow, baaaaad for exercise
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I have yet to drink the cofeee during a hot day's ride. In summer, I usually coffee it up before heading out, but then stick to water and mineralized drinks. However, this year, I may still go for that cup of joe at mile 90. It has been so darned refreshing this winter, I can't see it being too much of an issue later in the season as well.
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