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Old 04-03-09, 07:50 PM
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OT: Need non bike help please.

I need some help, and this board is one of two that I "trust" to get info off of.

I'm getting a new phone with Verizon Wireless in May, the 9th to be exact. I'm wanting to get a smartphone so I can track and post online to here and at the Weight Watcher's board. And to help track and get info from Weight Watcher's.

Here is what I'm looking for:
1)A good camera. DW and I find that we use our camera phones about 99% of the time now. I use it for my blog and the kids. Decent video would be nice as well.
2)A good phone to text on. With two teenagers, we got the unlimited plan and even I text about a hundred times a day.
3)Supports Yahoo Mobile Messenger. DW is on computer at work and can't use her personal phone most of the time. Its how we "chat".
4)MP3 backup. Its not its replacement. My $20 Stone is priceless and take the abuse. I don't want to do that to my phone! But to listen in the van on trips, in waiting rooms, and where ever.
5)Able to "blog" from it. What can I say, when I have a great idea I want the world to know about it.
6)Suports WW Mobile. Just want to be able to swap meals and track while away.
7)Play some sort of games on it. Not needing anything fancy. Maybe a little Asteriods or Pac Man.

I'm very tempted to just get a texting phone and then a PDA or Pocket PC and use it at Free Wi-Fi joints. If so, then any suggestions on either phone or PDA or PPC is welcomed. And what's the differance in a PDA and PPC?

I checked with Verizon, and its going to be $30 a month for Black Berry or Windows Mobile service. Its my "mad" money that's paying for it, since I keep reminding the wife that I don't run the bars! Plus I went down to online only with Weight Watcher's and that saved us over $30 a month.

If I go seperate devices, I still want the camera to have the good phone, music, and text requirements.

So far, I'm leaning towards the Black Berry 8330 Curve. The only thing I DON"T like about a BB is that with Verizon, you can't send pictures from your phone to another one. You have to use vwz.pic.com or something and use a computer to view them. Maybe they have stopped it or there is a way to get around it.

Thanks Jerry

BTW my blog is updated and I have pics of the bike on it.
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I can't speak for verizon, but I was in the same boat with sprint until very recently. They just released a software update that now allows sending pics. It might be worth checking into. FWIW
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I have had a Samsung Blackjack II with ATT for about 5 months. It is basically a knockoff of a Blackberry running Windows Mobile 6.1. I love the fact that it is not proprietary, so modification is pretty easy. I have the GPS unlocked so that I can use it for free with Google Maps. I use it for email, Facebook, logging my training on logyourrun.com, etc. The camera is a 2.0 mp camera and is above average for a cell phone camera, but it is still crap. It works fine in outdoor situations with plenty of light, but any other time the camera has a hard time focusing.


This would be suitable for everything that you mentioned except for this site. The mobile version of this site is quite horrible. They try to cram the same number of ads into the space, so that it bogs down the page load, and squeezes the reading down to less than half of an already small screen. Even at 3G speeds it is still painfully slow because of bad design of the site. It is not the phones fault.
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Jerry,
I have the Crackberry World Edition with internet and email. I have had it for about a year and I am hopelessly addicted. I do not have the camera. It would be nice.

I like the full keyboard Curve with the raised keys. I am very happy with mine.

Also, I think you qualify for the Verizon 18% discount for being a State Employee. My wife works for DHS and that discount is sweet.

Good luck.

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I got hooked on Crackberry last year for about three months! I had the 8330 World Edition also at first. It was really something. But I took it back for the 8130 Pearl. It was faster and the camera was good, but slow even at cell phone standards. But the Pearl's music was great and the keyboard wasn't a problem. Its a very fast texter.

I took the Pearl back after several quirks, two phones, and three months later. Got all kinds of crap from the Marion store and they look like they want to spit on my to this day! Its the worste Verizon store in SI! Anyways, after going back to my old phone and several calls to Verizon, I got a enV 1st geration. Its ok, but not a web surfer. Mostly a top end texter. This all happened two weeks before they got the Curve! Its what I wanted before I knew they even had it coming.

My wife had several problems with her enV, so they upgraded her's free to the enV2. Now that's a nice texting phone. Processor is faster, the phone is great, and its a better design than the 1st gen.

I would get the Curve in a heartbeat, but wanting to see if the Storm or the new Sansung Omnia is worth it. Its for two years, so might as well have the latest and fastest phone. The prices for the plans are the same as well.

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I was in the same boat as you six months ago. I bought an iPhone and switched from Verizon to AT&T. Best phone I've ever owned and AT&T coverage has improved quite a bit from the last time I used them...
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I just got a palm Centro and I think it does everything you are asking. I have only had it for a couple weeks so i am still learning. I did by a 4gb micro card for it.
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I would love to get an iPhone, but At&T's coverage around here is spotty at best. Verizon is the only carrier with 3G coverage.

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I love my Verizon Curve 8330, and would recommend it to anyone. I use my curve for everything, including streaming music when I'm on the bike, the speakers are loud enough when I'm by myself I can attach it to the top tube and stream a Pandora station without any issues, unless it is really windy.

I've heard bad things about the Storm, though I've not used one much myself. Depending on how long you can wait (probably 4-5 months) the Palm Pre will probably be on Verizon in late summer early fall (I hope, it is a sprint exclusive when it comes out, but the exclusivity will probably only be about a quarter.)

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The only thing I don't like about my curve is that the internal GPS is locked so I can't use it for anything but Verizon's software and blackberry maps.
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Since you're with Verizon (same as I am) I can whole heartedly recommend the Omnia.

Very thin, light but durable. Runs Win Mobile 6.1 pro. WifFi, EVDO, Bluetooth, 5mp autofocus camera (with smile detection), FM reciever (yes - it's old school but very cool!), 8GB onboard hard drive with support for up to a 32GB SD card, optical mouse, and the list goes on.

I've enjoyed mine, and even take it on rides so I can take pics, listen to MP3s or call up google maps (if lost). Call quality is good and battery life is normal for smart phones. Even my friends with iPhones are jealous!

Anyways, just my $.02.
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I'll second the Omnia - it's a great device.

Not sure what you're saying about not being able to send pictures with Verizon. I've been doing it for a couple years, even with my old Motorola Q.
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I have a Blackberry Bold/9000 on AT&T - it's OK. Not sure if it's been released on any of the other carriers yet. I guess it's pretty fast as far as Blackberries go. The media functionality is pretty middling. Previously I had an iPhone which got lost in a cab. I preferred the iPhone, though that's mostly due to it's iPod functionality. It was not with out it's problems - after updating the software to OS 2.0, the keyboard became very laggy and nearly unusable.

Blackberries are over rated, imho.
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Originally Posted by Jerry in So IL
I'm very tempted to just get a texting phone and then a PDA or Pocket PC and use it at Free Wi-Fi joints. If so, then any suggestions on either phone or PDA or PPC is welcomed.

If I go seperate devices, I still want the camera to have the good phone, music, and text requirements.
If logic follow reason ,and not marketing ploys to confuse and dumb down the market, this choice is
easy. Seperate Devices!

With seperate devices you will only have to upgrade and risk one item at a time. If all in one
then if one goes, breaks ,or is outdated, then you have to buy all or none. Not a very smart place
to be in my book.

What is lost ,and deliberately obscured by cell compaines, is that a Cell Phone is no longer just a device to talk on!! Now
it's a toy for the techie. My God, How did we ever survive without all this tech junk!!!
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Originally Posted by Nightshade
If logic follow reason ,and not marketing ploys to confuse and dumb down the market, this choice is
easy. Seperate Devices!

With seperate devices you will only have to upgrade and risk one item at a time. If all in one
then if one goes, breaks ,or is outdated, then you have to buy all or none. Not a very smart place
to be in my book.

What is lost ,and deliberately obscured by cell compaines, is that a Cell Phone is no longer just a device to talk on!! Now
it's a toy for the techie. My God, How did we ever survive without all this tech junk!!!
I almost got fired because I was tired of someone being a smart @$$ with me over their email. All I did was ask what they did before the computer and internet revolution.....o well, the life of the help desk...

I have two devices (three technically, but the Blackberry is the company's), and I prefer two devices to a "smartphone" any day. I have found that smartphones aren't really that smart, I had a Cingular 8125 and it didn't really do any one particular thing very well. I now have a Palm TX and a basic* phone and don't worry if I have to take notes. When my contract ends I will be going contractless as I have found that I am wasting money on features and minutes I don't use. I have a Sprint family plan (500 minutes or so) and we don't use hardly anywhere near the 500 minutes in a month.

Take advantage of the 30 day return period if you are unsure what to get.

* - phones only need to make and receive calls. If I need a picture, the ones on the phone will work, but I won't live with it as my only camera. If I need one because I get into an car accident, well, that's what disposable cameras are for - which reminds me, I need to check the expiration on those....
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Originally Posted by Nightshade
If logic follow reason ,and not marketing ploys to confuse and dumb down the market, this choice is
easy. Seperate Devices!

With seperate devices you will only have to upgrade and risk one item at a time. If all in one
then if one goes, breaks ,or is outdated, then you have to buy all or none. Not a very smart place
to be in my book.

What is lost ,and deliberately obscured by cell compaines, is that a Cell Phone is no longer just a device to talk on!! Now
it's a toy for the techie. My God, How did we ever survive without all this tech junk!!!
Originally Posted by snowman40
I almost got fired because I was tired of someone being a smart @$$ with me over their email. All I did was ask what they did before the computer and internet revolution.....o well, the life of the help desk...
Sometimes it's necessary to "be a smart butt" to be heard , or read, over the din of others voices.

Blunt and to the point is still best. That doesn't leave doubts where you're coming from now
does it?
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Been is a daze over phones for the past few days. I can't see any that right on is worth the price on them. Also Verizon is going to be carrting some nicer phones in the 3rd and 4th quarter, so I'm going to hold out upgrading til the fall.

Oldest Princess and I talked it over and getting a phone AND a netbook is the best option for us.

I REALLY wanted to get an all in one device, but its just not going to happen. Plus, I'm questioning if the data plan for a smartphone is worth it just to track with WW on. A small notepad and ink pen is less than a $1.

Of all the phones I looked at, I can give some thougths. The Omnia from Samsung is a nice phone. Its WiFi also. Of the Black Berries, I liked the Curve. Its camera and browser is just great. Music rocks as well. I have to say the Palm Centro is my favorite! Don't know why, its just a sturdy little PDA. Its keyboard looks cramped, but it is very usable. I'm going to look into it more, Verizon is almost giving them away. Its a great texting phone and if I can get some games and certain applcations for it, it would serve me well as an electronic pad for blogging and word docs. I can just transfer the docs to my home computer and then post to the web.

And Verizon was only blocking the picture transfers on Black Berry phones and devices. All over can send phone to phone.

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The Crackberry 8330 curve my wife and I love ours !! Camera is decent so is video . I never go anyplace without mine ! But toss the case it comes with and buy one that covers the phone and screen I got ours off e Bay for like 8 bucks . We ha heve been using Crackberrys for a few yrs now and the Curve 8330 is fantastic .
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I have a BlackBerry Pearl, and it does all the things you are wanting, though it is a 'smaller' phone. I have to take it everywhere due to work so I didn't want one of the bigger models. Beyond that, even though the BB platform will do what you want, that doesn't mean there isn't something else out there that will do it more cheaply.
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any smart phone by LG will be good for text and have a mean camera
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The Crackberry 8330 curve my wife and I love ours !! Camera is decent so is video . I never go anyplace without mine ! But toss the case it comes with and buy one that covers the phone and screen I got ours off e Bay for like 8 bucks . We ha heve been using Crackberrys for a few yrs now and the Curve 8330 is fantastic .

Verizon is rumored to come out with the BB 9030 this fall. I like the BBs trackball. Plus, Verizon is also rumored to drop their data plan again! The best price I've heard is $24.95, to match Sprint. But I'll wait and see.

I tried the camera and video on the 8330 and they were as good as any camera phone I've used. WAY BETTER than the Pearl!

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I have a BlackBerry Pearl, and it does all the things you are wanting, though it is a 'smaller' phone. I have to take it everywhere due to work so I didn't want one of the bigger models. Beyond that, even though the BB platform will do what you want, that doesn't mean there isn't something else out there that will do it more cheaply.
I had the Pearl for three months and really liked it. Its camera was slow and iffy, even for a camera phone. But its transfer and browsing was great. I though it faster and better than the World. The sure Type keyboard wasn't hard to get us to either. Kind of a pain on some sites and trying to put in a password, but I liked it.

Truefully, I think BB is the cheapest browser phone out there. The system just works. Do wish they offer more system memory and use standard SD cards, but that's a complaint with all smartphones.

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Originally Posted by Mr Danw
any smart phone by LG will be good for text and have a mean camera

I have to agree with LG making a great camera. I have the enV green now. My wife has the EnV2 in maroon. Both take great pictures. And they are pretty rugged. We have dropped and banged ours to the point of abused and they keep working.

The enV3 is due out this fall as well!

I like the Vovager. I'm not sold on tough screens just yet. Its bigger than the enVs, or the new Dare, or even newer Versa, but its a machine and one of the best to text on. The 2nd generation is due out this fall as well! I'm REALLY going to look hard at it.

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