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Originally Posted by mtclifford
(Post 9437873)
I spend a lot less on food now than I used too. Of course one of my big problems was eating out a LOT. Like pretty much every day. But yeah if done wisely you can eat fairly healthy fairly cheap, whole grains, tuna fish, bulk lean meats, and cheaper fruit aren't going to break the bank, especially when compared to highly processed foods which can be more expensive.
Now going through 4 entire wardrobes, that was expensive. |
Originally Posted by manicmike
(Post 9438030)
and you might grow a garden if you have a spot. a bag of tilapia and a bag of chicken breasts and i'm good for the week. (mmmm....stir fry!)
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Originally Posted by mtclifford
(Post 9437873)
I spend a lot less on food now than I used too. Of course one of my big problems was eating out a LOT. Like pretty much every day. But yeah if done wisely you can eat fairly healthy fairly cheap, whole grains, tuna fish, bulk lean meats, and cheaper fruit aren't going to break the bank, especially when compared to highly processed foods which can be more expensive.
Now going through 4 entire wardrobes, that was expensive. |
Originally Posted by The Historian
(Post 9438085)
Sometimes not. If you are willing to carefully shop at second-hand stores, it's not expensive at all.
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Originally Posted by mtclifford
(Post 9438340)
I actually gave almost a dozen bags to goodwill, never had a lot of luck at second hand stores. The worst was a pair of decent suits I bought on sale about halfway through for $500 each. Took them back a year later and was told they couldn't alter them that much. I ended up donating them to the a local veterans group.
I gave away everything as well, except a belt. That's my reminder of "never again." |
Originally Posted by mtclifford
(Post 9438040)
I can't do the garden, I have a great yard but the landlord is over 100 and damned picky. However I do the next bext thing, my local farmer's market is cheap, convenient, and a great way to socialize.
Don't let that stop you. You can still grow many vegetables without having to break any soil. Here is what you do: Get a couple of five gallon buckets and cut several holes around the base. Fill it about 1/3rd the way with tan bark mulch or gravel, then top off with your favorite potting soil. Plant your veggies in the soil. Tomatoes, green beans, peas, lima beans, even cucumbers and squash can grow quite happily if you are careful to support their vines on the way back down. I did this for a couple years in my first apartment right on the balcony. Pro tip, buy the tomato cages so your climbing veggies have something to cling to. Remember, if the women don't find your attractive they should at least find you handy :thumb: |
Originally Posted by bautieri
(Post 9438524)
Get a couple of five gallon buckets and cut several holes around the base. Fill it about 1/3rd the way with tan bark mulch or gravel, then top off with your favorite potting soil. Plant your veggies in the soil. Tomatoes, green beans, peas, lima beans, even cucumbers and squash can grow quite happily if you are careful to support their vines on the way back down. I did this for a couple years in my first apartment right on the balcony. Pro tip, buy the tomato cages so your climbing veggies have something to cling to. |
Pandemonium And Paranoia Everywhere :eek:
Is this an increasing phenomenon? As people try become political they simultaneously become infantile. BTW, the healthcare costs caused by obesity and even smoking are actually very debatable. The arguments most often quoted in the media are pretty ridiculous. Here are some studies: For example the "cost of smoking cessation": http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/...l.pmed.0050037 http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/...l.pmed.0050029 http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...?artid=1765898 In short, there is a strong argument to be made that the people who live the longest cause higher health care costs. |
Thanks for sharing reasoned and objective information.
While much has been said about obesity causing greater healthcare costs. None of the "Fat Tax" proponents every say much about the cost of the "uninsured" clogging our hospitals and essentially getting free healthcare. Instead, they focus on an easy target of big people and ask they pay more. Should a mountain biker pay more for healthcare? a cop? a construction worker? The interesting part of your studies suggest that "healthy people" who live longer are more expensive in lifetime healthcare dollars than the "unhealthy". But I suppose this sensible analysis of the facts won't persuade some people. Time for lunch. I think I'll have a cheeseburger. |
Originally Posted by ncman
(Post 9422312)
It comes down to the fact that it IS cheaper to eat crap rather than healthy food..
Eating fat, sugar, and sodium laden crap is more expensive. If you look and learn you'll find healthy food. Those of us in Amish/Mennonite country have better access to antibiotic-, drug-, pesticide-, and hormone-free, flesh and vegetables. Nevertheless, those types of farms exist elsewhere. That if and when you start looking into the contents of food you will just become all sorts of shocked at what and how much there is in the prepackaged food that as labeled as heart smart or "healthy".. Part economics ...part ignorance....part convenience..(how much easier is it to swing by mcd's or wendy's etc. than it is to make a healthy lunch ahead of time or find a place to eat healthy at) |
OK, I've been out of town for a couple of days. I can see the thread got VERY political. Yes, there's been a lot of good information in it, but there's also been a lot of high eotion, so I'm going to lock it up. Sorry all.
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