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Old 09-13-09, 07:37 PM
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Moving on...

As a rule, I only live in one bike forum at a time, it eats up too much time otherwise. Planning a first tour next year, so I am moving to the touring forum. I'll check in here once in a while, but if your looking for me, you will find me over there.

It's been fun over here, but I feel that I need to learn a lot about touring, which I can accomplish more over there then I can here. My tire thread made me realise that I am not looking so much for a Clyde tire, but a touring tire. So for those of you that are on both forums, I'll see you over there. For those that are not, keep slogging on, keep riding and remember "granny" is your friend on the hills.....

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Touring is a slow thread.
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Originally Posted by 10 Wheels
Touring is a slow thread.
you'll be bored silly there!!!

C&V and here is the only places to hang...

oh yeah I check out the touring side as well as the road but ...

man the touring is slooooo o o o ow
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This is what? Your 4th moving on thread?...Just read when you feel like reading, post when you feel like posting. I don't anybody twists our arms to read this forum!
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To quote my favorite movie... (guess the movie)

Wyatt Earp: "I want you to know its over"

Curly bill: "Well.......... bye"

haha jk, but I think these "moving on" threads people start are attention getters. Its an online community afterall. Get out there and ride Aren't touring guys too busy riding to post on here? haha

Seriously, Take care though, dont forget us clyde's
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Originally Posted by Wogsterca
As a rule, I only live in one bike forum at a time, it eats up too much time otherwise. Planning a first tour next year, so I am moving to the touring forum. I'll check in here once in a while, but if your looking for me, you will find me over there.

It's been fun over here, but I feel that I need to learn a lot about touring, which I can accomplish more over there then I can here. My tire thread made me realise that I am not looking so much for a Clyde tire, but a touring tire. So for those of you that are on both forums, I'll see you over there. For those that are not, keep slogging on, keep riding and remember "granny" is your friend on the hills.....

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Sorry, but you are making the wrong choice. The Touring Forum is rife with misinformation and filled with people who think an awful lot of themselves.

Examples of misinformation and clouded reasoning:

- "churches are "public property" so you can take anything you want from them."
- "it's not a real bike tour unless you camp."
- "stealth camping is the only "real" camping."
- there's a minimum length for the daily mileage, otherwise it's not a tour.
- the Surley Long Haul Trucker is the best touring bike on the market, everyone should ride one. (Surley's stealth marketing campaign on the Touring Forum rivals that of Bikes Direct elsewhere.)
- the belief that one cannot be a 'real' tourer unless you do this, ride this, bring this..... for a bunch of anti-materialists they plug a surprising amount of merchandise.

Add in the continual left-wing slant of so many of the posters - one reason I call it The People's Republic of Touring - and the belief that a few prominent mouths constitute "the touring community" and you have good reasons to not make it a main hangout. I don't say you cannot get some useful information from the forum, but any I've picked up I could have gotten as well from here.

Oh, and incidentally, several posters in Touring dislike fat people. It's the only place on Bike Forums I've been attacked for being obese.
 
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I'm surprised to see so much polarization here.... I've experienced (come to expect) that in the A&S threads

Not that it's good or bad... I'm just sayin'...



Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz
This is what? Your 4th moving on thread?...Just read when you feel like reading, post when you feel like posting. I don't anybody twists our arms to read this forum!
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Originally Posted by The Historian
Sorry, but you are making the wrong choice. The Touring Forum is rife with misinformation and filled with people who think an awful lot of themselves.

Examples of misinformation and clouded reasoning:

- "churches are "public property" so you can take anything you want from them."
- "it's not a real bike tour unless you camp."
- "stealth camping is the only "real" camping."
- there's a minimum length for the daily mileage, otherwise it's not a tour.
They are definitely opinionated and willing to say what they think, even when wrong or questionable. I think your examples are exceptions and not the rule.

Originally Posted by The Historian
the Surley Long Haul Trucker is the best touring bike on the market, everyone should ride one. (Surley's stealth marketing campaign on the Touring Forum rivals that of Bikes Direct elsewhere.)
Definitely the most talked about bike on the forum, but I think there is a great appreciation for all touring bikes.
How could you forget to mention the idolic worship of the Brooks Saddle?

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the belief that one cannot be a 'real' tourer unless you do this, ride this, bring this..... for a bunch of anti-materialists they plug a surprising amount of merchandise.
The anti-materialistic slant is way over the top. I don't understand the aversion to nice things, and the continual worship of all that is free or cheap. Sometimes I'm surprised that there aren't more dumpster diving threads. (There have been some.)

Originally Posted by The Historian
Add in the continual left-wing slant of so many of the posters - one reason I call it The People's Republic of Touring - and the belief that a few prominent mouths constitute "the touring community" and you have good reasons to not make it a main hangout. I don't say you cannot get some useful information from the forum, but any I've picked up I could have gotten as well from here.
I haven't noticed this so much.

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Oh, and incidentally, several posters in Touring dislike fat people. It's the only place on Bike Forums I've been attacked for being obese.
I've never felt this there. If I did, I would speak up. But that doesn't mean it's not true. I'm disappointed that happened to you there.

Overall, I enjoy and get a lot of info from the touring forum, but Clydes is a much more positive, supportive, and friendly community. I read both, but Clydes is a home and the Touring is a destination.

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They are definitely opinionated and willing to say what they think, even when wrong or questionable. I think your examples are exceptions and not the rule.



Definitely the most talked about bike on the forum, but I think there is a great appreciation for all touring bikes.
How could you forget to mention the idolic worship of the Brooks Saddle?



The anti-materialistic slant is way over the top. I don't understand the aversion to nice things, and the continual worship of all that is free or cheap. Sometimes I'm surprised that there aren't more dumpster diving threads. (There have been some.)



I haven't noticed this so much.



I've never felt this there. If I did, I would speak up. But that doesn't mean it's not true. I'm disappointed that happened to you there.

Overall, I enjoy and get a lot of info from the touring forum, but Clydes is a much more positive, supportive, and friendly community. I read both, but Clydes is a home and the Touring is a destination.
Again, I've gotten information from Touring, but it's not quite the Nirvana that the OP is hoping for. His example of tire questions, for instance - I doubt he'll get any different answers in Touring than he would here. Well, actually he would - people will plug a small group of 'house' brands in Touring.
 
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Originally Posted by The Historian
Again, I've gotten information from Touring, but it's not quite the Nirvana that the OP is hoping for. His example of tire questions, for instance - I doubt he'll get any different answers in Touring than he would here. Well, actually he would - people will plug a small group of 'house' brands in Touring.
You are definitely right about the branding. I agree that it is a good place for very specific info, but never as helpful as Clydes with more general questions/comments. Clydes is the most accepting forum here, our bond goes beyond bicycles. We share a common struggle. Hence my comment; Touring is a destination, Clydes is a home.
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We'll be here Wogs. My experience in touring is that there is a lot of good information, but don't get caught up in what other people define as touring.

When the time comes for your tour, make it your own and not into something someone else says it should be.
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