Again, you make me laugh! Why? Because I do big rides at 220 and smoke 150 lbs guys. I don't look for excuses of WHY I CAN'T, you do!:rolleyes: I'm even 15 yers older than you but do I whine about it affecting my cycling? Nope! Living in California, do I not ride around cyclsits? Yes! Do I make excuses? Nope!

I guess my argument is that all your science and experience doesn't do much for real life. Maybe you need to look at your training techniques and QUIT making excuses as to why you can't and why others can't. You can't be that good of a trainer demotivating others to try. I take those that think they can't and show them they can! Take lessons;)

FTR (and in case the mods wonder), the only reason I fired back on you was for the ignorant, patting myself on the back comment (now ask yourself, is Mr Beanz right?). Which to me, says you're the one following me around looking for trouble. You got it now so quit yer crying!

You crack me up with all the "experienced" training mumbo jumbo! Hmm, same weight, you're 2 inches taller, 18% while I was measured at 30% but you got 101 excuses. Maybe your training technique aint all you think it is!:roflmao2:

As far as followng you around, no I ask questions of your experience. You're giving cycling advice so I asked about your LD experience, you have none! How can you tell someone how their body will react when you haven't the REAL WORLD experience yourself?

If someone claims that a set of wheels lasted 10 years, I ask about mileage which is a better measurement of durability than sitting in the closet for 9 1/2 years. I'm merely trying to find out your experience and why you make such claims when you have no basis as I do with any bogus claims, sorry if you can''t handle the heat of someone wanting to understand how you came up with your cycling advice!;)

+1

"...everyone probably thinks your a loser with no life for following me around the forum cutting and pasting." I doubt anyone thinks Mr. Beanz is a "loser with no life."

Thanks Historian Dude!:thumb:


I can prove him wrong but he'll get hurt about that too!:D

CPFitness DUde, read my signature. Ask the 50 or so BF members I ride with and associate with on a regular basis in REAL LIFE. Check out the 50 or so videos I've made or real riders and cyclign friends. Check out the hundreds of pictures I've posted of 100's of forum members. When rides are in a bind, need help, or even want to try out something, ask them who gives them what they need. Ask them how many times Mr and MRS Beanz have driven supporton local forum member rides, this and other cycling forums.

Check out the little gold jersey next to my name. All that shows that I'm always happy to contribute to the cycling world, and pay for the space I use posting my loser life material like so many other members that are criticized by those that donate nothing and do nothing but post mumbo jumbo advice!:D

Yeah, I'm a loser!:roflmao2:

This sounds horribly logical. +1

Very nice! I'd bet a ton of doctors don't understand cycling either, but love to blabber about physiology! THOSE without expericen don't undersand how climbing a hill doesn't mean going all out on a 10% climb. Those that do know that starting from block one means ride up as if it were a flat road, then gently make gains, even if it's a .0000001% percent gain each time out.

Did I get my wife riding in the mtns but riding behind her with a whip? NO, we'd ride up a bit, stop if she had to. Catch her breath, take it easy, little by little. One day she woke up and did the climb after some time of very smal gains. Those that thing your heart will fail from low impact controlled exercise, and think riding hills is 200% balls out on a 10% climb don't know cycling.;)

I'm quite sure you know a lot of things about cycling, probably far more than I do. But there are certain things your clearly completely ignorant about and someone blindly following your advice one day is going to end up getting seriously injured or killed. You don't go around telling people with Congestive Heart Failure to just go riding bikes up hills with no worry. That's completely assinine. This advice has nothing to do with cycling, it has to do with basic fitness advice for people suffering from cardiovascular disease.

In regards to the other thread regarding riding 60 miles you continue to act as if I said the person couldn't or shouldn't do it as a cut and dry answer. My response was simply that I didn't think it was the BEST use of his limited training time based on his existing fitness level, not that it couldn't be done.

As for me, I don't make excuses. Do you know how many ligaments are in a knee? do you know the function of menisci? thats right, menisci, not meniscus. Most people don't know that there are 2 pieces of meniscus in the knee. Do you understand the simple concept of body fat percentage? So if you take a look at an MRI of my left knee you would see 2 out of the 4 ligaments torn and lots of stuff floating around in knee preventing full flexion and making extension painful. No amount of "doing a little bit at a time" is going to get me to the level I would be with reconstructive surgery and debridement of the menisci. At 240lbs and 18% body fat if I lost EVERY ounce of body fat, I would weigh 197lbs. If I got down to single digit bodyfat I would still weigh 216lbs. Thats an awful lot of weight for a cyclist to try to compete with guys that weight 40-50lbs less who are bottom heavy with legs as muscular and strong as mine. The nature of what i do for work and my other hobbies means I have no desire or intention of stripping muscle mass off of my upper body to get my body weight down so therefore I'm just goint to have to work harder on the bike to attempt to keep up.

So there are excuses and there are reasons and scientific facts. I'm fortunate that I was in good shape before the injury and know the proper exercises to do to maximize strength and stabilize the joint as best as I can before I get it operated on in the fall. And after all that, I still ride the bike pretty damn good and would never back down from the challenge of racing you.

But at the end of the day, your the old wily forum vet aka the table captain and I'm never going to win an argument against you. Dont dislocate any more joints stroking your ego okay?

Thread hi-jacking - not nice
 

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I do think it is in poor taste to hi-jack a thread. Please, take it to PMs, or start your own I want to have a 'spat' with Foo thread...

Enough already! It's really bad when I need to unsubscribe from a thread I started... :(

I think Peter C. just fired his trainer. :-)

Again, make me laugh! You think too much of yourself and your scientific facts and terminology (as if you'r the only one that knows. Tell you what, take second, look back at your posts, you don't even know the difference between "then" and "than", so your attempt to impress with terminology means nothing!;)

Again, I didn't dislocate my shoulder, you can't even comprehend that fact so how can I be impressed with your medical scientifical I'm a smart guy knowledge!:rolleyes:


You wouldn't be a challenge!:p



I'm not sure but your last response was at #29 and now up to #58 without any pertaining to the OP. I'm pretty sure that means your thread was already dead and a hijack is when a live thread is redirected.

But at your request, I will not respond any longer in this thread so that it may fall back several pages!:D

FWIW, I wasn't even aware that you had a shoulder injury at the time I made my post, i was simply making a joke. It's something we say on the golf course when someone that hits a good shot starts retelling you about how well they hit the shot. "Don't dislocate your shoulder patting yourself on the back!" But I stumbled across your crash video, pretty funny stuff! And yes, I'm aware that a separated shoulder is different from a dislocation. Dislocation causes a tear in the labrum and is inside of the shoulder. Separated shoulder is a separation of the Acromial Clavicular (AC) joint.

As for then and than, I'm well aware but it's something called predictive text on my droid. So i'm typing fast on a touch screen and sometimes it selects the wrong word and quite frankly, as someone who has studied linguistics as long as you understood the message being conveyed, it really doesn't matter.



Peter,
Sorry about the threadjack. I don't really think I jacked it too much I just kept trying to reiterate and make it clear that you really need to go other doctors for 2nd opinions, though on a forum as large as this, you may very well find a cardiologist amongst us.

Oh, so sorry. I thought it was an ignorant joke about my crash!:eek:....one of the downfalls of miscommunications on the net. I am man enough to apologize for a misunderstanding.;)

My husband was on beta blockers for about a year for an irregular heartbeat. I don't remember him having trouble on hills, but at rest he got dizzy spells with increasing frequency until by the end of this past March he started getting them every 15-20 minutes. I took him to a walk-in clinic where they discovered his heart rate was dipping below 28. They sent him straight to the hospital for 4 days observation while the drug cleared his system. Sure enough, the dizzy spells disappeared.
Turns out there was too much time between heartbeats when he was on them, so the blood was draining down from his head beween beats and causing the light-headed feeling. Maybe this is the cause of your problem, too much gap between heartbeats. Perhaps your doctor could experiment with the dosage?
Walk part-way up hills if you absolutely need to. There's no shame in it. We've all done it from time to time when the hill was just too steep or we didn't have the fitness at the time.