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Which Garmin?

Hey! So I have been trying Map My Ride with my BlackBerry, and it is not that good. Have been thinking about a Garmin, but don't know which model. I get distracted easily by shiny objects, so I don't know if I need more than the Edge 500 with HRM.

Any thoughts?
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I don't know much about the 500, but I have the Edge 705 and love it. I use the heart rate monitor and cadence sensor. The package I bought also came with US maps. It blows away anything you can do with your Blackberry (or iPhone in my case). You can probably get a great deal on the 705 right now because the 800 was just released.

I had a hard time justifying the cost of the 705, but I'm totally happy that I bought it.
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+1 for the 705.

I paid $300 for it as a factory refurb via eBay - love it! I dont think the 800 is out until a few more weeks...
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Originally Posted by cbrown9064
Hey! So I have been trying Map My Ride with my BlackBerry, and it is not that good. Have been thinking about a Garmin, but don't know which model. I get distracted easily by shiny objects, so I don't know if I need more than the Edge 500 with HRM.

Any thoughts?
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I use my BB 9700 from time to time and it works very well. The free application I use is this one https://appworld.blackberry.com/webstore/content/2083 which you can easily map, save, export and upload to mapmyride etc.

Of course the Garmin is/are much more feature rich as well as pricey.
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Another vote for the Garmin Edge 705. I use the HRM, power, and cadence features on every ride. Don't use the maps that often, but they were great to have when I rode from San Francisco to Los Angeles last year.
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The 500 isn't the best choice if you want maps, hence all the love above for the 705.

The 705 is about to be replaced by the 800, which has a few refinements and new features. One of the guys in the road forums (Psimet) was just at the Interbike show and thinks it is a winner.

Wait for the Edge 800 and get the HR and sensor bundle.
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Originally Posted by JonnyHK
The 500 isn't the best choice if you want maps, hence all the love above for the 705.

The 705 is about to be replaced by the 800, which has a few refinements and new features. One of the guys in the road forums (Psimet) was just at the Interbike show and thinks it is a winner.

Wait for the Edge 800 and get the HR and sensor bundle.
Good point. However, your not going to see a deal on a 800 for quite some time as its the latest and greatest. The 705 can be picked up for $300 with all accessories (refurb) whereas expect to pay $600+ for the 800...
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Originally Posted by cbrown9064
Hey! So I have been trying Map My Ride with my BlackBerry, and it is not that good. Have been thinking about a Garmin, but don't know which model. I get distracted easily by shiny objects, so I don't know if I need more than the Edge 500 with HRM.

Any thoughts?
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I had the Garmin 305. I ended up sending 3 units back on warranty due to the battery contact issue causing mid-ride shut off or complete bricking of the device. After the last one, I said to hell with it and bought a 500. It's a great unit, faster and more accurate than the 305, keeps all the data I'd want. However, upon syncing it started deleting and corrupting data leaving me with no ride data. I've since reset the device and it hasn't happened since, but that doesn't bring back the data from my lost rides. I do take excellent care of my gear, but I ride on quite a bit of chipseal. It's not something I can control, but it appears very tough on the sensitive Garmins. After this, I'm switching to a cheap cateye.

The Garmins are great units, but they still haven't sold me on their ability to produce a reliable device. I'd rather have bought a cheap computer and save the extra $150 or so for some other bike schwag.
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I have the 705 and it is OK. If I was buying today I would get the 800.
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Thanks all for the advice!
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Agree on the 705. Got the 305 fir $139 but took it back to get the maps!
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Originally Posted by alpha_bravo
The Garmins are great units, but they still haven't sold me on their ability to produce a reliable device.
I returned a Garmin Oregon 300 because it routinely showed me riding from Seattle to China or India. I got another one, which gave me reliable data, but kept powering itself off with good batteries. I said to hell with it and ponied up for the 550t, the top of the Oregon line, and this one keeps powering down, too. It won't stay on for five minutes on a fresh battery charge.

I think if Garmin spent a little less on advertising and team sponsorships, and a little more on Q&A, they'd have a winner on their hands.
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I really like using my Garmin Edge 500. I bought it at $275 without the heart rate kit. I like how I can use it with full fingered gloves. The Edge 800 seems to be mostly touch screen which would limit its functionality with full gloves. I didn't need navigation--all I wanted was a recording of my cycling trips. This summer, whenever Garmin Transitions won a pro stage, they posted on twitter a 20% coupon code for anything in the RideArgyle website which included the Garmin computers. Unfortunately, I purchased it already. I did see, however, that I could have purchased a new Edge 500 for around $200-$250 (if memory serves). You might be able to search the interwebs for that code to see if it still works.
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Because I run as well as bike, I have a Garmin 310XT. I really like the way it transitions from my wrist to my bike mount. I have the speed/cadence sensor as well as the HR strap
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I have had the Edge 305, and it does everything I need it to do. I have had a couple of problems with it, blank screen on start-up, uploading problems, but they have been only occasional and not a big issue. You can pick them up cheap and you're not paying for a bunch of bells and whistles that you won't use.
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I got the 305 and am having battery problems with it I need to keep it on the charger all the time. If I take it off the charger the battery is dead in 12 hours

I contacted customer support and basically they said to clean contacts and reboot

It fits my needs as far as a HR moniter
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The only reason to get a 705/800 over the 500 is the mapping features. If you don't need/want the maps, just get the 500.
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I'm not convinced that the 800 is better than the 705. I assumed this summer that a new Garmin would be out soon. Then once I saw the early reviews of the 800, I got a 705.

The 800 touch screen is bigger than the 705 screen, but all the photos I've seen show the menu and arrow buttons taking up display space, so the map size is similar.

While riding, I can reach down and cycle through the screen displays by clicking the Mode button without having to look down and hit a certain spot on the screen. The same thing with zooming the map in and out, just click it.

On the 705, the "Where To" --> Saved Rides just is not reliable for following a downloaded track. It often doesn't follow all the way to the end, or starts one turn from the end. I can't use it for navigation on unfamiliar roads. It's too bad, because it automatically beeps before turns and shows the street name to turn onto.

However, using "Training" --> Courses --> "follow course" does work. It shows the route in a wide purple line that's easy to follow, and always works correctly. Right now, only bikeroutetoaster.com will upload a .tcx course with tagged turns--giving an advance warning to turn left or right. But bikeroutetoaster is really a pain to use. I expect ridewithgps.com to have something usable soon.

I got the 705 instead of the 605 for two reasons: 1. the 705 takes the cadence+rear wheel speed sensor, so the road speed is more accurate than using GPS. 2. the 705 has a barometric altimeter, so it's elevation & grade calculations are much more accurate.

I got a 4gb sd card for $10.00 and downloaded the free Open Street Map. It wasn't all that easy to find out the correct maps to get, and how to set it up on the Garmin. (The downloadable 2gb maps don't quite fit on a 2gb card, so get a 4gb card.) But now it works fine. It appears that the main difference is that the free maps don't have nearly as many points of interest as the pay Garmin maps, but the roads are complete and up to date.

I couldn't find any refurb 705 models this summer. Any web store that shows them is out of stock.

I got the 705 mainly for navigation. But I finding that the other features are really useful to me. I like the saved ride data, showing speeds, cadence, heart rate, etc on a graph. I never expected to use the Training functions, doing timed intervals, but they are motivating and fun to use.

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You can also try allSportsGps with your blackberry... or it's big brother, trimble outdoors (trimble.com should have a run down for you, and they have a free trial) I had AllSports on my BB and liked it, and now I have the fancier one on my droid. I do *not* refer to it while riding though, it just gathers data.

But for $10 or whatever it was, much more reasonable and available than a garmin, at least for now.
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