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Old 01-24-11, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Wogsterca View Post
I have decided that saddles need to be rated, based on distance, some are good for 10km, some are good for 20, I'm looking for the saddle that is good for 100, one of the saddles here, didn't last more then 5km before, I felt as if someone set it on fire
Since I am a woman, I have different issues than you guys but I love my Terry Butterfly Ti - on my 4th one - I've ridden them for years and have done many centuries with them. For me, most comfortable saddle out there but... saddles are as personal as underwear and shoes... what works for me might not work for the next person. I tell people "you might have to go through a few before you find The One". But when you find The One, stick with it.

BTW tried the Terry BFly on my mountain bike and hated it. I like my WTB V for mountain biking. Uncertain why its works so much better but again I stick with what works.
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Originally Posted by Wogsterca View Post
It's amazing the number of bicycles that come with 10-20km saddles
Because they are cheap! I would not leave a shop with a new bike unless the saddle is switched out!
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Originally Posted by socalrider View Post
I know that specialized has 155mm saddles but too many of my less than 200lb friends have broken them..
Only the mid-range Alias and upper-range Toupe have those titanium rails that tend to break. I've never heard of anyone breaking the lower-end Avatar, that has alloy rails.

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Old 01-24-11, 03:49 PM
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The past couple of days I have been switching saddles btwn my MTB and my road bike. I had an E3 from performance on my road bike for the past couple of years and it has always been comfortable until the past couple of months. My MTB saddle (Specialized Avatar because that what the LBS was selling at the time) has always been comfortable on MTB rides. I put the Avatar on my road bike in the trainer and it get's uncomfortable after about 30mins but I am not sure if that is because of the vibration from the trainer of not. I will be putting the E3 back on the road bike tonight for another trainer session and putting the Avatar on my newly acquired/built vintage cross bike which I am still trying to find a seat for. We are supposed to have a heat wave here as the temps going to be in the 30s tomorrow and I am finally(fingers crossed) going to take the cross bike for its inaugeril ride. Nashbar has a Fi'zi:k Arione on sale I was thinking of getting for the road bike and move the E3 to the cross bike(only plan on mtn fire roads and rail trail riding with it). Anyone ever try the F'izi:k?
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Old 01-24-11, 04:07 PM
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My primary gripe with Specialized saddles is that all the ones with alloy rails are covered in vinyl. I know that leather saddles really don't absorb that much moisture, but they really do feel better on rides that last over a couple of hours.

I used to love my old Terry Liberator, and am thinking about switching to a Terry Fly this year.

I've also heard good things about the standard leather road bike saddle from Performance, which is made by someone like Selle Italia. I know a few people that got one because they saw other hard-core riders with one, and they all like it.


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Old 01-24-11, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Pamestique View Post
Because they are cheap! I would not leave a shop with a new bike unless the saddle is switched out!
The problem as always, switched out with what.... We bought a $70 woman's saddle for my wife's bike, and it's a 10km saddle for her, I can get about 18out of it, before it becomes a royal PITA. She switched again to this ugly square $20 thing, and that's her saddle, good for at least 35km, she hasn't really gone much further then that. I do find it funny though you can buy a $300 bike and a $3000 bike and they come with the same crappy saddle! I think that really, the bicycle industry could make things better by selling bicycles without saddles, the shop keeps a couple of demo saddles around for test rides.
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Originally Posted by Wogsterca View Post
I think that really, the bicycle industry could make things better by selling bicycles without saddles, the shop keeps a couple of demo saddles around for test rides.
+1 I bet it's a big reason folks stop/don't start cycling.

Serfas Vistoso.. $50 ish
When I mentioned how much I like this saddle, several folks here suggested I buy more that one.
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Prologo Kappa Pas. Did 100 miles on it breaking in my CAAD9 5 this weekend. Didn't have any issues at all. Felt like I could have put another 100 on it without a problem. Bib shorts do help though.
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Old 01-26-11, 09:25 AM
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Anyone ever try the Cobb saddles?
http://cobbcycling.com/

They have a 180 Day comfort gaurantee. They even have a saddle chart for height and weight. They look kind of different then most saddles. I was thinking of trying one but they seem expensive but then with the 180 day gaurantee I may just take the chance. Although, I am going to read the fine print on the gaurantee first but was hoping someone out there may have had experience with them.
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Old 01-27-11, 09:27 PM
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I'm not really a retrogrouch but I have a natural tan Gyes Parkside sprung leather saddle on my '09 Marin Argenta. I love the thing even though it adds a good lb + to the bike. I have the same saddle in black on my grocery getter. Velo Orange has its own model, made by Gyes, on sale. I highly recommend it.
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Originally Posted by BigUgly View Post
Anyone ever try the Cobb saddles?
http://cobbcycling.com/

They have a 180 Day comfort gaurantee. They even have a saddle chart for height and weight. They look kind of different then most saddles. I was thinking of trying one but they seem expensive but then with the 180 day gaurantee I may just take the chance. Although, I am going to read the fine print on the gaurantee first but was hoping someone out there may have had experience with them.
I haven't tried one so I can't knock it from experience, but it 130mm as a standard for all the Cobb models really a great thing? Regardless of the top surface shape, I know for a fact that a 130mm saddle might as well be me sitting on the seat clamp. Some people really do need a wider saddle.
Then again, with the 180 day return policy it can't hurt to give one a try so I say go for it if you think they look comfy. People look at Brooks saddles and think they'll be like rocks and I suggest the Wall-Bike 6 month return program; so fair's fair, right?
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Old 01-28-11, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CliftonGK1 View Post
Too much gel is bad. A little bit is OK.
I switched my singlespeed from a B-17 to a Selle Italia Diva Gel Flow and my booty's rarely felt better. (Only once before, when I purchased my Assos FI.Mille bibs.)
I'm looking at purchasing a Selle Italia max flite gel flow. The max flite looks like the same saddle as the diva gel flow other than the width. It looks like the diva is 160 mm and the max flite is 150 mm. How does the diva perform in the rain? Any concerns about keeping it dry? Is there less care for this saddle than a B-17?
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Old 01-30-11, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CliftonGK1 View Post
I haven't tried one so I can't knock it from experience, but it 130mm as a standard for all the Cobb models really a great thing? Regardless of the top surface shape, I know for a fact that a 130mm saddle might as well be me sitting on the seat clamp. Some people really do need a wider saddle.
Then again, with the 180 day return policy it can't hurt to give one a try so I say go for it if you think they look comfy. People look at Brooks saddles and think they'll be like rocks and I suggest the Wall-Bike 6 month return program; so fair's fair, right?
the skinnier saddles seem to work for me. All the reviews online I found for the Cobb are positive. Could not find one bad review. I orderd one last week and am anxiously awaiting it's arrival. If it is not comfortable at this price you can bet your arse I will be sending it back.
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last page there was a question about alternatives to Brooks leather saddles ,
then the discussion went to leather covered composite saddles.

Well the composites are more weather resistant, because the base of the saddle is molded nylon,
so if it gets wet. riders weight will not stretch the base, as its a plastic.
Now between the 2 there is foam rubber/plastics, and there is a density range those foams are made in.

in the all leather riveted across a steel frame product range there are competitors ,
top range, Berthould in France exports to US, and Velo Orange found someones stuff to sell ..
that company in in MD..
Selle anAtomica is a by product of a midwest Industrial Leather pump cup
and shaft seal packing company, cuts slots the center to make it move with your legs better, and for their main product line they developed treatment processes, and use some of them to 'waterproof' the leather.

My recent saddle purchases Fizik Vitesse , its a Synthetic 'pleather' covered composite .
some what in the width category of Brooks B 17 ,
But as I have to lock my bike to stuff outside and leave it, when Its Raining,
I find the combination more suitable where I live.

I have toured in similar wet coastal climates , with the Brooks under a plastic bag for weeks , though.

It's still OK.. it has soaked up much Proofide to make it less water absorbing.

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I did 20 road miles on a 40-lb antique steel frame, no-suspension mountain bike in gym shorts yesterday. My saddle of choice was a Zefal tru-gel I got on clearance at Wal-Mart for around $10. It weighs a ton, but at 210lbs, another lb doesn't make much difference. I had no problems, your mileage may vary!
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Gel doesn't have to be bad, it just depends on the gel. I have a wide Cloud 9 on my 3-speed that I absolutely love. The gel is much firmer than any other saddle I've seen and it's been very comfortable for long rides.

I think a lot of the bad reputation comes from people getting cheap gel saddles that are super soft because they think softness=comfort.
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Rec'd my new Cobb V Plus saddle yesterday. Put it on my road bike which is in the trainer. Followed the very detailed installation instructions. Went for a 60 min ride on it on the trainer this morning. I must say I am a believer. It seemed very comfortable compared to my other seat(E3 from performance which I have been using for 2 years). I have 179 days left to decide to keep it or not, just want to give it a real test on the roads soon. Good thing that rodent in Punxsutawney shaw his shadow today. Spring must be right around the corner
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Originally Posted by BigUgly View Post
Rec'd my new Cobb V Plus saddle yesterday. Put it on my road bike which is in the trainer. Followed the very detailed installation instructions. Went for a 60 min ride on it on the trainer this morning. I must say I am a believer. It seemed very comfortable compared to my other seat(E3 from performance which I have been using for 2 years). I have 179 days left to decide to keep it or not, just want to give it a real test on the roads soon. Good thing that rodent in Punxsutawney shaw his shadow today. Spring must be right around the corner
Actually if they SEE their shadow, it's six more weeks of winter, if they don't and neither of them did today, it's an early spring, yeah, technically this is winters half way point, six weeks have gone, six more to go after this one.....
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Originally Posted by InTheRain View Post
I'm looking at purchasing a Selle Italia max flite gel flow. The max flite looks like the same saddle as the diva gel flow other than the width. It looks like the diva is 160 mm and the max flite is 150 mm. How does the diva perform in the rain? Any concerns about keeping it dry? Is there less care for this saddle than a B-17?
The rear shape of the Max Flite is a bit different than the Diva, and the Diva has a little more padding than the Max Flite. I don't fret the rain with the Diva because the leather can't over-stretch like on a B-17. With a plastic shell, you can't sag out the saddle and ruin it.
I'm also checking out the Specialized line of stuff next week. They've released 150 - 155mm models of many saddles with similar rear profiles to the Selle Italia saddles: Nice, wide, and flat with very little to no edge drop-off. Take a look at the Diva and the ProLink for comparison.
Woodinville Bike is getting them in next week as testers. Ask your local Specialized dealer about them. (Note, I haven't had luck with Spec. saddles in the past, but it's been the width issue. The new widths might just be the ticket!)
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I went saddle shopping this past weekend. I looked at the cobb saddle, the ISM Adamo, I may still get one of them, and a bunch others. I ended up getting a Koobi tri saddle. Has anyone heard of them, ride one? I also got a planet bike competition saddle also. I am probably going to let my bro use it for the upcoming tri if I decided to keep it.
I did 10 miles on the Koobi saddle and so far so good. I need to put it on the bike it is meant to onbefore I make a decision about it.
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I went saddle shopping this past weekend. I looked at the cobb saddle, the ISM Adamo, I may still get one of them, and a bunch others. I ended up getting a Koobi tri saddle. Has anyone heard of them, ride one? I also got a planet bike competition saddle also. I am probably going to let my bro use it for the upcoming tri if I decided to keep it.
I did 10 miles on the Koobi saddle and so far so good. I need to put it on the bike it is meant to onbefore I make a decision about it.
I think the solution to the saddle dilemma, is if bike shops had rental saddles, so you pick a saddle from the rentals, rent it for say 5%-7% of the purchase price, the shop puts it on your bicycle, ride it for a week under your normal riding conditions, you return to the shop, they take the rental unit off, and if you were happy, they can put on your new purchase for you. If not, you can try a different model. Five to seven percent would be reasonable, in that after 14-20 weeks the saddle is paid for, so a saddle that costs $49.95 would rent for $2.50 -$3.50 per week. There would be the option that a rental unit could be sold off, as a used rental, if still in good condition at the end of the model year.
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I have the Selle SMP TRK...I have only had a couple short rides and so far so good. It is kind of shaped weird...reminds me of the concorde with the bent nose http://www.roadbikereview.com/cat/co...2_2509crx.aspx
+1 for the Selle SMP. Mine is a slightly different model, I have the carbon one. It doesnt look comfy, but it sure is for me.

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I'm drinking the Brooks Kool-aid!

I have a 20-30 year old professional model I have had for about 15-18 years.
I just bought a blue B-17 for my first mountain bike.
I'm looking to put them on the tandem next!
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I just bought a 12" Cloud 9 for my Hard Rock, we shall see how the Tokus like it because it does not like the skinny little saddle it came with.
I will have plenty of pain in the quads back and Lungs, wont need any extra in the butt.
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I did not know that brooks had blue saddles, looks at blue bike, since I only have seen the black and tans around town. Might have to look in to that. I had my sit bones measured and they came out to 155, so I am back on the gel for now. The lBS sells the specialized line, was looking at the Avatar on the wall. Well off to stair at saddles and wonder which one to get, shopping for underwear is way easier.
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