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Old 04-19-11, 09:15 AM
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By Being Silly - Hurt My Back...

So I previously reported that I am on a "break" form work until June. I tech contract and after a year have to take a 3 month break of service from the "redmond giant" - not the best scenario but its all good when I am working. Anyways, as I have spare time on my hands, I have upped my bike riding (and lost 5lbs extra!) from approx 60 miles per week to 150+ miles per week. I WAS having a blast until last Friday when I climbed on the bike and felt a little back-pain. I rode through it and never gave it a second thought. Saturday I felt fine. Sunday morning I awoke to a pain that is so severe it makes me hop. I have a sharp pain that starts at the base of my spine and runs down my right leg. The pain increase if I try to bend. Walking is difficult as is driving.

Of course, biking has been out of the question as I can hardly walk, let alone bike. It looks like I irritated the sciatic nerve:

"Sciatica (or sciatic neuritis)[1] is a set of symptoms including pain that may be caused by general compression and/or irritation of one of five spinal nerve roots that give rise to each sciatic nerve, or by compression or irritation of the left or right or both sciatic nerves. The pain is felt in the lower back, buttock, and/or various parts of the leg and foot."

Any ideas on stretches etc to aid recovery (read speed up)? I would go to the doctors but I am out of work and pay full costs until I hit $2500

Im surprised at how much I miss riding...

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Sorry can't help you on that. If you don't get any help here maybe google will help you out.
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I've had that problem in the past, struggled with it for years, over the last year or so, my back has been hugely improved. Here is what worked for me. I had a manipulative osteopath for a number of years, who could manipulate the structure in my lower back, and significantly reduce the pain in a short amount of time (a manipulative osteopath is a D.O. that does a lot of what a chiropractor can do, but can also prescribe meds when appropriate). Problem was, the problem always came back. When we moved to CO, i found another Man Ost, but after he saw me, he told me that i needed to lengthen and strengthen the muscles in my back, and strengthen my core. He sent me to a physical therapist who rehab'd my back through strengthening, then started me on gentle Pilates workouts, and graduallyI started to increase the intensity of those. I am now a Pilates evangelist, my back hasn't felt this good for probably 10 years. There are other ways to do core strengthening and flexibility increase, but that is the key.....LENGTHEN AND STRENGTHEN! In CO, you don't need a prescription for PT, maybe that is the case in WA? Hope that helps, back problems are the worst...

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Old 04-19-11, 12:13 PM
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Thanks all.

I just went on YouTube and followed some "Sciatic Stretching" tutorials - I must admit my back does feel a lot better. Only performed them a few minutes ago so time will tell. I will keep you posted.

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My suggestion is to break your jaw, it will relieve the pain from the nerve in the back. (search my username, story is a thread)

Just saying that is what worked for me

On another serious note, I struggle with the same issue, and have tried stretching, to walking to almost everything in the book and have yet to find any relief. Sorry
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I wish you luck, the stretching is my best advice. I have done PT, had a couple of "procedures" to block the pain, meds and even traction. The pain is "tolerable" at best for me. I would get to a Dr., or PT before you can't get out of bed in the morning. Best of luck!
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As a preventative measure, I'm in the stretching-yoga-pilates camp myself. But note: that's prophylactic and I wouldn't just start doing exercises posted on youtube in an acute stage.

Get to a medicine man.
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Originally Posted by zoste

Get to a medicine man.
And therein lies the dilemma. The problem with seeking medical attention is:

1) I just cant afford it right now
2) The health coverage I have is minimum at best. So apart form paying all expenses out of pocket, I would then have a "pre-existing" condition and pretty much "un-insureable" if I ever wanted to switch providers.

So it looks like YouTube and the web will have to be my doc - no other choice if I want to pay my mortgage. The pain is back but the stretches did help for a little while. Fingers crossed it just goes away...

Besides, it was my own dumb fault. My back was already complaining but I proceeded at 290lbs to pedal like crazy up a 2 - mile hill in a hailstorm - it was fun though.

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Also, can try to reduce inflammation: 1) Ice it. 20-30 minutes every 2-3 hours. Use a big bag of frozen peas if you don't have gel-style cold packs. 2) Ibuprofen. I'm 270#, and take 3 500 mg pills every 6 hours when in severe back pain. But not long term, it will trash your stomach (and never on an empty stomach). Good luck.
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I stayed off the bike for 5 days and last night rode 2 miles. Still sore this AM but decided to try the neighborhood loop of 6 miles. Stiff for the first two miles but then the pain melted away. Had a nice but gentle ride. Will see in the AM how it feels.

Thanks for all your comments - much appreciated....
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My .02: When at 255-260 last year (my fattest ever), I got a bad case of "sciatica." I had never, EVER had back problems before then--and I couldn't pinpoint what exactly set it off. I was in severe pain for the first few days, then I figured out I could hammer back the pain with Ibuprofen (800 milligram horsepills). I tried a chiropractor at one point, but the relief was only temporary. The biggest relief came from stretching (carefully...), and from strengthening my core bit by bit. I hope it never returns (that was a miserable few weeks), but I am doing more than hoping by dropping some weight and keeping up the core exercises and stretching. I'm sure it afects different people in different ways, but a strong core and healthy, stretchy muscles have to be the best way to ward it off...
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I don't know if I'd rely on Doctor Google! Get to a real orthopedic doc. He can do a CAT scan or whatever and exactly pinpoint the problem and prescribe an effective treatment.

The human back is pretty fragile. I blew my back out years ago by just picking up my car keys! No fooling. I was getting into my car, and someone had parked close to me in a parking lot. I dropped my keys, and when I bent down to pick them up I kind of twisted down sideways and got a sharp pain when I straightened back up. Took me YEARS to get over it in the end, but started out with pain meds and muscle relaxants. I'd get muscle spasms so bad they'd twist me down into an 'S'.
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Originally Posted by tpelle
I don't know if I'd rely on Doctor Google! Get to a real orthopedic doc. He can do a CAT scan or whatever and exactly pinpoint the problem and prescribe an effective treatment.

The human back is pretty fragile. I blew my back out years ago by just picking up my car keys! No fooling. I was getting into my car, and someone had parked close to me in a parking lot. I dropped my keys, and when I bent down to pick them up I kind of twisted down sideways and got a sharp pain when I straightened back up. Took me YEARS to get over it in the end, but started out with pain meds and muscle relaxants. I'd get muscle spasms so bad they'd twist me down into an 'S'.
Thanks, but again, I cant afford a visit to the doc let alone a CAT scan...
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I've had good results for sciatic pain by doing a pyriformis stretch.
Lie on back.
Left leg flat on floor.
Right foot in left hand.
Pull on right foot with left hand.
Push on right knee with right hand.
Maintain knee joint at 90 deg whilst doing this.
Count to 50. You should feel pyriformis muscle (in buttocks) stretching.
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Originally Posted by mdohertyjr
My suggestion is to break your jaw, it will relieve the pain from the nerve in the back. (search my username, story is a thread)

Just saying that is what worked for me

On another serious note, I struggle with the same issue, and have tried stretching, to walking to almost everything in the book and have yet to find any relief. Sorry
This sounds familiar, are you the member who was on a walk after taking meds and passed or blacked out?

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And therein lies the dilemma. The problem with seeking medical attention is:

1) I just cant afford it right now
2) The health coverage I have is minimum at best. So apart form paying all expenses out of pocket, I would then have a "pre-existing" condition and pretty much "un-insureable" if I ever wanted to switch providers.

So it looks like YouTube and the web will have to be my doc - no other choice if I want to pay my mortgage. The pain is back but the stretches did help for a little while. Fingers crossed it just goes away...

Besides, it was my own dumb fault. My back was already complaining but I proceeded at 290lbs to pedal like crazy up a 2 - mile hill in a hailstorm - it was fun though.
You could do what they do here....just go to the ER (if you complain of chest pain, you'll be taken straight back.... ) and work the system so you have no bill(s)....I know these tricks as my wife is one of the people that hands you paperwork to fill out. The only part I endorse is complaining of chest pains, the ER's here are treated like clinics, so the waiting area is the worse place you can be, unless you want to be really sick. I'm to honest to work the system like that, but I know it is being done.
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I suffered from Sciatica several times over the years. I agree that seeing a doctor is the best, safest step, but if you can't then these steps may offer some help.

Take an otc NSAID like Aleve.
Try to avoid sitting down for lengthy periods of time as this tends to cause additioanl irritation, if you must be seated for work, etc, try to get up and walk around every 30 mins.
Do some gentle back, glutes and hamstring stretching excercises.
if you can do some core strengthening excercises
Maybe lay off the bike for a week and see ifthe inflammation dies down.

Good luck, I know it's a painful dibilitating injury.
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What worked for me to relieve severe back pain when it was happening was laying flat on my back on the floor in our house, and resting my lower legs on a chair, so that my knees were bent exactly 90 degrees. Then I'd gently pull one then the other knee toward me. It really relieved the pressure on whatever nerves weren't happy.

My doctor told me that once I'd had a back problem I was likely to have it again unless I strengthen my stomach/back and lose weight. I've been working on the latter since then, and it's one of the reasons we've taken up cycling. If you don't need to lose much weight, I'd probably focus on the stomach and back strengthening.

Good luck! The best medicine for me was ibuprofen, time, and getting out to walk as much as I could stand. You have to get moving again as soon as you can - staying immobile for a long time only prolongs the pain.
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Thanks for all the tips and suggestions on stretching etc. Rode 11 miles today and back feels great and back to "normal"

Training schedule resumed
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