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mtalinm 06-23-11 05:07 PM

sometimes skinny people need to shut up
 
photographer came by today and noticed my Boston Bikes map. asked if I do any biking. I told him that I commute to work on two wheels, about 13 miles each way. he was unimpressed and said something to the effect of "well I do some serious distance riding" and went on for 10-15 minutes about how fast he is and how awesome his Cervelo bike is and so on and so on.

from my body type he clearly assumed I was a newbie. I was getting annoyed with him, so I asked how many miles he does per year. "Around five thousand" he said. I then noted that I did 5k myself this past year.

"But mine are really intense riding, centuries, mountain climbs, etc."

good grief. sometimes skinny people need to shut up.

Mr Sinister 06-23-11 05:16 PM

Define skinny... I am about 215, and most people think I am kind of skinny ( I wear my weight well, no huge gut). But I know what you mean, hear in Mass. some of the thin people can be asses. Remember the Masses are asses... :P

green427 06-23-11 05:44 PM

Sounds like he wanted you to acknowledge that he is awesome and you are not.

mtalinm 06-23-11 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by green427 (Post 12832048)
Sounds like he wanted you to acknowledge that he is awesome and you are not.

indeed. but I am pretty awesome for my current girth. he seemed pretty shocked that I did as many miles as he did last year

skilsaw 06-23-11 06:08 PM

I was in a group of blow-hards who were all trying to one up each other.
When it came time for me to introduce myself, I said "I am David, JPD"

The LLB's, MA's, and Phd's all looked a little puzzled but suitably impressed and I was included in further conversation.

Later, one of the quieter guys asked me what JPD stood for. "Just Plain Dave" was my reply.

What a lot of stuffy Aholes.

CliftonGK1 06-23-11 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by mtalinm (Post 12831874)
"But mine are really intense riding, centuries, mountain climbs, etc."

Tortise and the hare, pal. 5000 miles of intense, long distance just means that you're slacking more days in between. :lol:

He's trying to compensate when confronted with the fact that he "only" did as many miles as a rider he deems inferior (by appearance.) He should try and hang with some of my Clydesdale friends fom the Seattle Randonneurs. Let Mr. "Intense Mountain Century" guy see how his ego's doing after a double century and he finds out they're only halfway finished.

mkadam68 06-23-11 06:17 PM

Funny stuff. Not specific to just skinnies, though.

On a Sunday club ride, (we do ~25 milers on Sundays), we pulled into our social-respite stop about halfway. Some scraggly looking guy (I would've thought he was homeless) on a bike pulls over next to me & my son. He asks where we came from, I explain. He starts going off on how far he's come, over the mountains, through the woods type stuff. I reply, "You're awesome," and walk away. I didn't see him again.

It's people.

CraigB 06-23-11 06:51 PM

Well, I'll agree that skinny person needed to shut up.

nixternal 06-23-11 07:27 PM

Add one more to his resume, punch him in his stomach or throat and introduce him to intense breathing, then say, "This is what it feels like to us big fellas to climb mountains!" :D

Mr. Beanz 06-23-11 10:23 PM

I dunno, I think in this case the big guy needs to shut up!:D (humor)

Well, that's based on what another poster told me, he commutes and I only do sissy la-la trail rides to the beach so I really don't know what riding is. :eek:

So if it's true that commuting requires far more skill than I possess, then maybe it's the big guy telling big fish stories here.:roflmao2:

jdevarie 06-23-11 10:24 PM

no surprises. u r too close to Boston, lots of posers there. I know I live in Quincy lol

he has a chainring up his A$%
lol

StephenH 06-23-11 11:14 PM

I was really excited about some of my recent rides and telling a ("skinny") lady at the local club ride about it...she seemed underwhelmed...so next time I kept my accomplishments to myself, and things seemed to go better- so sometimes Clydes need to shut up, too.

Rowan 06-24-11 01:39 AM

The thing is... high intensity in training and riding is where the fitness is.

Likely he did spend less time on the bike for the same miles, but was better off for it than you were with your commuting at the same intensity day in, day out.

Sometimes, it's just best to say: "Good for you, you look good for it". And listening might even learn you something.

tiretread 06-24-11 05:00 AM

Asshats come in all shapes and sizes.

Ali_Pine 06-24-11 05:38 AM

Just let it slide clyde.

indyfabz 06-24-11 07:15 AM

So you would have found his braggadociao acceptable if had been fat?

indyfabz 06-24-11 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by Rowan (Post 12833531)
The thing is... high intensity in training and riding is where the fitness is.

Likely he did spend less time on the bike for the same miles, but was better off for it than you were with your commuting at the same intensity day in, day out.

Sometimes, it's just best to say: "Good for you, you look good for it". And listening might even learn you something.

How dare you! :)

Jim from Boston 06-24-11 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by mtalinm (Post 12831874)
...I told him that I commute to work on two wheels, about 13 miles each way. he was unimpressed and said something to the effect of "well I do some serious distance riding" and went on for 10-15 minutes about how fast he is and how awesome his Cervelo bike is and so on and so on.

…"But mine are really intense riding, centuries, mountain climbs, etc."

good grief. sometimes skinny people need to shut up.

mtalinm and I commute similar routes in opposite directions all year round, and we both post to the Northeast Regional Forum thread, “Metro Boston: Good ride today?,” where cyclists of all abilities post on a congenial and mutually supportive thread, virtually a special interest group. I recently posted about that attitude to the thread, and got a couple nice replies.


Originally Posted by Jim from Boston (Post 12802685)
Hi cmolway,

I enjoy reading about your extended rides …

I admire the long and fast rides you and some of the other “top-tier” correspondents describe on this thread, and I humbly relate my rides, mostly to suggest the nice routes I find…Nonetheless, given my busy life situation, I’m very happy with my cycling lifestyle. A thread I once read soon after subscribing to BF advised something like “My 15 mph is to me as your 24 mph is to you.” :thumb:

Furthermore,


Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz (Post 12833180)
…Well, that's based on what another poster told me, he commutes and I only do sissy la-la trail rides to the beach so I really don't know what riding is. :eek:

So if it's true that commuting requires far more skill than I possess, then maybe it's the big guy telling big fish stories here.:roflmao2:

I once wrote a rejoinder to a Fred thread, criticizing that diparaging term; my Fred Manifesto.


Originally Posted by Jim from Boston (Post 9027712)
… I thought: certainly there are the roadies, who are indeed “Beautiful People” and are splendid in their spandex and peletons; and there are Freds, kind of clunky but sincere and loveable. But there is IMO, a large segment of noble cyclists, e.g. tourists and commuters who are neither BP’s nor Fred’s, but certainly serious cyclists.

I recalled how politicians in Massachusetts are derided as “hacks.” In a memorable speech to the House of Representatives of the Commonwealth, a former Speaker of the House proclaimed “I am not a hack, you are not a hack, we ought not be treated this way." Similarly, my manifesto is, "I am not a Fred you are not a Fred, we ought not be treated this way". So I propose a new name, currently applied to frequent business travelers—ROAD WARRIORS. I AM A ROAD WARRIOR…

John Gardner once wrote: "An excellent plumber is infinitely more admirable than an incompetent philosopher. The society which scorns excellence in plumbing because plumbing is a humble activity, and tolerates shoddiness in philosophy because philosophy is an exalted activity, will have neither good plumbing nor good philosophy. Neither its pipes nor its theories will hold water.” IMO, the society which exalts roadies and scorns road warriors will have roads only built for cars.


Ratzinger 06-24-11 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by skilsaw (Post 12832161)
I was in a group of blow-hards who were all trying to one up each other.
When it came time for me to introduce myself, I said "I am David, JPD"

The LLB's, MA's, and Phd's all looked a little puzzled but suitably impressed and I was included in further conversation.

Later, one of the quieter guys asked me what JPD stood for. "Just Plain Dave" was my reply.

What a lot of stuffy Aholes.

Love it. They all probably wondered what you were saying but too embarassed to be the only one not to know what "JPD" stands for.

RunningPirate 06-24-11 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by mtalinm (Post 12831874)
"But mine are really intense riding, centuries, mountain climbs, etc."

At that point, you should have just gone for broke: "Yeah, but I did my miles on a fixed gear full suspension tandem folding recumbent. With no brakes." :thumb:

Some folks are just like that. All that said, as someone who'll hit 3K this year if he's lucky, good on ya for doing 5K!

jmeissner 06-24-11 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by tiretread (Post 12833722)
Asshats come in all shapes and sizes.

Couldn't have phrased it any better than this.

Rhodabike 06-24-11 09:25 AM

So what this guy is saying is... his bike is just a toy. Not ridden for any practical purpose like picking up groceries or travelling to a daily destination. :)

SeptemberGirl 06-24-11 10:20 AM

It's one thing to babble on excitedly to another rider, in the same club as you, or who might possibily care, than it is to come up to a total stranger and demean their accomplishments.

So. Rude.

Confession: I live near about 10 mins from the beach, and there are truckloads of skinny, blonde, rich women who don't have to work and own $800 cruisers that they buy exclusively to ride on the boardwalk...convertibles that they only take out on sunny days, you get the picture. Excess. I'm not skinny, blonde, or independently wealthy. So sometimes I just hate on them for all those things. I don't think that makes me a bad person, just human.

Keith99 06-24-11 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by CliftonGK1 (Post 12832171)
Tortise and the hare, pal. 5000 miles of intense, long distance just means that you're slacking more days in between. :lol:

He's trying to compensate when confronted with the fact that he "only" did as many miles as a rider he deems inferior (by appearance.) He should try and hang with some of my Clydesdale friends fom the Seattle Randonneurs. Let Mr. "Intense Mountain Century" guy see how his ego's doing after a double century and he finds out they're only halfway finished.

Your post brings back memories of when I did the Land Rush. San Francisco to Los Angeles in 2 days. I had done the Highland Grand Tour earlier that year and not even a century inbetween that and The Land Rush. I was warned that I would barely be able to get up the second day, let alone ride.

Thing is I was an active Rugby player at the time and 2 day tournaments were still common. It was just like getting up Sunday morning of a Rugby tournament, except that I hadn't been drinking and every single part of my body still worked, some were sore, but all of them worked.

Keith99 06-24-11 10:56 AM

Cycling is my number 3 sport. And through good luck more than anything else I have met some pretty good athletes in all 3.

I started as a swimmer. When I was in college at Occidental we placed as high as second nationally. Not any credit to me, I was good enough to pick points at aroung 8th at the confernce meet (This was NAIA, Not even near NCAA division 1). But we had ties to USC and I got an invite to their awards banquet. This was near the peak of swimming at USC and I met several olympians from more than just the US there. I also knew age group US record holders. In Rugby Occidental has put many players on the US national team. We ended up with ties to South Africa and I have toured Australia, New Zealand, England and Wales. Along the way I've met national side players from at least 6 countries and played with and against several. In cycling I have not met as many near the top, but a few. One rider who had competed in the TDF, the defending womens RAAM champion and another woman who was about the 10th best inhte US at the time.

The thing is it has worked out that I've met and chated with those really at teh top from several countries and the most noticable thing is what never happened.

Never, not a single time have I heard a top level athlete say nasty things about those who compete at a lower level or just play, swim or ride for fun. Oh some may be rude to a autograph seeker, but when it comes to others that love their sport the ones I have met have always been supportive.


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