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Time to get serious

Went to the dr last week for my first full physical in a number of years. Good news is my blood pressure and heart rate were down to normal, which the dr attributes to the riding and the 25lbs I've lost. Bad news was my sugars were high so he sent me in for a GHTT. Results came back I am type 2.

So it looks like I need to get serious about changing my eating habits more. I have cut down on portions and cut out some foods, but I have to do better. The wife is probably not going to like it but I also need to be more consistent about my riding.

The good Lord willing, I will not be diabetic next year.
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You can control it with exercise alone.

But I don't think one can loose it.
It will show up when you stop exercising.
That is the way it works for me.
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Good reading

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/riva-g..._b_863126.html
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Originally Posted by Crazydad
Went to the dr last week for my first full physical in a number of years. Good news is my blood pressure and heart rate were down to normal, which the dr attributes to the riding and the 25lbs I've lost. Bad news was my sugars were high so he sent me in for a GHTT. Results came back I am type 2.

So it looks like I need to get serious about changing my eating habits more. I have cut down on portions and cut out some foods, but I have to do better. The wife is probably not going to like it but I also need to be more consistent about my riding.

The good Lord willing, I will not be diabetic next year.
Good for you! Do whateverTF it takes! First hand knowledge from hanging around the dialysis center, many kidney failures were people who didn't take care of themselves after finding diabetes. One lady told me how she didn't pay attention to the doc. All she had to do was take a stupid little tablet. She didn't, she lost her kidneys. Year later she lost her leg, year after that her life.
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Good read Wheels, thanks. Definitely a wake up call and I will be educating myself as much as I can. I am hoping I don't have to take anything for it. I go back to the dr after the 4th to get the full diagnosis.
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My Doc told me 3 months ago that I am type 2.

I transported medical patients for 2.5 years, mostly dialysis patients.
Lost one each month. Youngest being 36 y/o.

Your eye site goes, your leg circulation goes. Your kidneys go, your heart goes.
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I will send you some more info later.
Got in 69 miles today.
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Start riding for the ADA. Get on Team Red. Get plugged into their forums. Find them at diabetes.org
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Here is a study most would consider radical
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-13887909

But Mr Benz story is considered "normal"
Dr. Gabriel Cousins from Az has been speaking of this for years but most dis him...
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Thanks for the suggestions and info everyone. It definitely is a lot to take in and can be overwhelming, but I am learning a lot. I may try to go for the Houston TDC in September.
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Hopefully everything works out for the best Crazydad. Get as much information as you can so you can make a choice that is right for you.

When i found out I was pre-diabetic I had the option of starting medication and/or changing diet. I opted to change diet.
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Type 2 for about 10 years. Started cycling 3 years ago. The cycling is a tremendous boon in regulating my glucose levels but something that I've noticed about my own situation is that distances up to ~25 miles seem to be my Sweet Spot as far as keeping the levels moving in the right direction. Anything over 25 and my glucose tends to rise. It won't rise to dangerous levels but, still, it does seem to increase. My Health Care people tell me that this is common. Do any of you experience this?
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Originally Posted by Street Pedaler
Type 2 for about 10 years. Started cycling 3 years ago. The cycling is a tremendous boon in regulating my glucose levels but something that I've noticed about my own situation is that distances up to ~25 miles seem to be my Sweet Spot as far as keeping the levels moving in the right direction. Anything over 25 and my glucose tends to rise. It won't rise to dangerous levels but, still, it does seem to increase. My Health Care people tell me that this is common. Do any of you experience this?
I just got the diagnosis so I don't have the monitor or anything yet. But thanks for the info, it will definitely be something I keep an eye on. Do you eat (gels, bars, etc.) during the longer rides?
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Crazydad, for me, the longest rides so far have only been 45 miles which I did daily my first winter riding. For those, I'd usually just carry a banana with me and I'd eat it just after the ride. Hunger was, at least then, never much of an issue for me. My plan for the new bike is to start doing much longer rides. I'd like to get my weekly mileage back up to 200+ miles and start doing some centuries and longer. Food will definitely be a necessity for those rides so I'm sure that I'm in for an experimental phase while I find what works. It's a huge challenge, for sure. But, to me, it keeps me in tune with what's going on with my body and gives me something to kind of focus on. When I go to see my Medical Peeps, we can actually converse on a bit of a common level and they seem to really appreciate that.

As an aside, I just saw a story on the news this past week about Type 2 Diabetes. A group of European (I think?) doctors have claimed to have found a cure for the disease and they say it's as easy as simply going on a 600 calorie/ day diet for two months. I don't know about you, but a diet like would DEFINITELY cure me of Diabetes because it would starve me to death! Good Lord, lol.
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Take a hard, serious look at getting on a low-carb diet. At its core, type 2 'beetus is an intolerance to carbohydrates. Reducing them to a minimum has worked wonder for a lot of people I know.
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I was diagnosed about 1 1/2 years ago with T2. Was told to change my ways and all that would happen if I didn't . Well I didn't because there was nothing really tangible in my symptoms. Continued to drink and eat way too much. Then in May of last year a good friend and coworker died in a car crash. Most believe it was due to low blood sugar, passed out and went off a bridge. He had several incidents at work as he and his doctor were trying different insulin. That was my wakeup call and life changer. That's when I started to take this crap serious. I eat better, drink less and exercise way more. I've been able to stop taking metformin since my fasting levels are lower...not where they need to be but it'll get there.

Don't want to preach but I hope you get down and kick it's ass! I've only been on the board a short time but have received a lot of inspiration and confidence from being here...It's made me get my fat ass out on the bike when I really wanted to sit.
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Nigel - Thanks for the encouragement and glad you joined us. There is a lot of inspiration on this forum for sure, everyone here is great. While I started riding last year and have lost some weight, got my blood pressure down, etc. I never really changed what or how much I was eating. This was my wake up call. There is no doubt I am going to kick it's butt, there is no other option. Understanding the He can take me whenever, I am going to do everything I can to make sure I am there to see my kids grow up, get married, and have kids. My dad died at 44 (age I am now) of a massive stroke (smoked 2 packs a day and drank like a fish) and I had to walk my sister down the aisle when she got married. Lord willing, that will not happen to my kids.
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I could give a grocery list of the problems that cycling has either fixed or, at least, controlled for me over the past three years. I won't bore you all with one but I will say that, if ever there was a Magic Bullet, for me cycling would be it. Ironically, I got into it as an act of shear desperation and it soon became an addiction. Funny the way things work out sometimes. It also helps tremendously that I have a place I can go (this Forum) for inspiration whenever I need it. I lurked here for over two years before ever posting. Lot of really cool people and a WEALTH of info. Pretty awesome.
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Originally Posted by Crazydad
Went to the dr last week for my first full physical in a number of years. Good news is my blood pressure and heart rate were down to normal, which the dr attributes to the riding and the 25lbs I've lost. Bad news was my sugars were high so he sent me in for a GHTT. Results came back I am type 2.

So it looks like I need to get serious about changing my eating habits more. I have cut down on portions and cut out some foods, but I have to do better. The wife is probably not going to like it but I also need to be more consistent about my riding.

The good Lord willing, I will not be diabetic next year.
This to me, is the most vital statement in your post. I find it extraordinary that the ones supposedly closest are the ones most resistant to the changes that are required to extend the lives of the ones they love.

As to the ultra-low calorie diet to cure diabetes, the research was done in the United Kingdom, and found that because of the reduced calories, the fat cells within the pancreas slowly but surely disappeared and the cells responsible for insulin production reactivated to the point where they achieved full capacity again.

Again, I find it extraordinary that someone would say they would rather die of diabetes than go through two months of an ultra-low calorie diet to ensure they lived much, much longer.

10Wheels, sorry to hear about that diagnosis. You are one of the most active riders around these forums. Is there a family history?
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This to me, is the most vital statement in your post. I find it extraordinary that the ones supposedly closest are the ones most resistant to the changes that are required to extend the lives of the ones they love.
That is a good point that has probably had books written about it. It is hard. I love my wife more than anything, but she does not like change. We kind of got into it the other night over what I was going to eat. She doesn't think I need to go "off the deep end" and force the family to eat nothing but whole grain stuff, etc. But she did go the farmers market today and bought a lot of veggies and some whole grain pasta for me as a "peace offering" so she is coming around. And at the same time, I will also need to keep myself in check to make sure I am not neglecting the family in pursuit of miles. As with everything, we need to find the balance.
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That is a good point that has probably had books written about it. It is hard. I love my wife more than anything, but she does not like change. We kind of got into it the other night over what I was going to eat. She doesn't think I need to go "off the deep end" and force the family to eat nothing but whole grain stuff, etc. But she did go the farmers market today and bought a lot of veggies and some whole grain pasta for me as a "peace offering" so she is coming around. And at the same time, I will also need to keep myself in check to make sure I am not neglecting the family in pursuit of miles. As with everything, we need to find the balance.
Machka and I have been watching Biggest Loser on TV recently. It's the first time I have ever watched it. It is fascinating verging on the rivetting to see the dynamics involved in firstly getting motivated, then staying motivated to achieve weight loss.

The role of loved ones and those around the subjects has been pivotal to success.

We've been going through our own weight issues of late and we are slowly achieving what we set out to do. Ultimately, it comes down to setting our targets and self-motivating ourselves to achieve them. But the mutual support we can offer each other has been very important.

I really do hope your family does adopt the "healthy lifestyle" creed. A "peace offering" is one thing, but making the leap to permanent change is another. Good luck with that.
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Rowan, FWIW, I never said or even implied that I would would rather die of Diabetes than go hungry for a couple of months. What I said was that a 600 calorie/ day diet would, in my case, cure the Diabetes because it would starve me to death. It was an, apparently, lame attempt at levity.
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I'd have to look a little more deeply into the research in question. While I'm sure that 600 cals/ day would definitely have an affect on glucose levels, it seems to me that it would be extremely difficult to keep from going Hypoglycemic. Especially for anyone who is engaged in a rigorous exercise program while attempting to maintain such a calorie restrictive diet. Low blood sugar will kill you much quicker than high blood sugar will. Again, I'm basing this "opinion" only on the info I saw about the research on the news. I know how my glucose levels fluctuate based on food intake and exercise and, based on my limited knowledge of the research in question (and all levity aside), I can't say that the diet instills me with confidence.
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I really do hope your family does adopt the "healthy lifestyle" creed. A "peace offering" is one thing, but making the leap to permanent change is another. Good luck with that.
Thanks, that is the goal.
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In my return post earlier today I announced that I was diagnosed Type 2 last Sept.

In doing some research on gym workouts and diabetes, I found a couple articles about non-diabetics adopting a "diabetic" diet and lifestyle. If you think about it, the standard diet recommended by most Dr's is a pretty balanced and healthy diet. By switching the family over and getting them outside for exercise wouldn't be a bad thing.
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