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so much for the 3 feet law

Old 08-04-11, 07:20 AM
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so much for the 3 feet law

Dude almost clipped me and would have if the vehicle in the opposite hadn't honked and got my attention just in time for me to look back and hit the shoulder (grass and dirt shoulder, not paved). If I wouldn't have taken the time to throw my finger in the air and say a few choice words before I realized that he was going to get stuck at the stop sign for a few seconds, I might have caught him I've never kicked the tail light out of a benz before, but there is a first time for everything
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So some guy actually tried to hit you, you caught up to him and kicked his tail light in, then admitted it on a public forum? Did the driver explain himself?
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Old 08-04-11, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by jyossarian View Post
So some guy actually tried to hit you, you caught up to him and kicked his tail light in, then admitted it on a public forum? Did the driver explain himself?
I got a little something different from the story.
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Old 08-04-11, 08:57 AM
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I'm not sure if he intended to hit me or scare me or just didn't care either way, I did not catch him and I did not kick out his tail light. Thats just what I wanted to do at the time.
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Old 08-04-11, 10:38 AM
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Laws are only good for election year brownie points and legal maneuvering in court once the deed is done. You are responsible for your own safety regardless of the legality of others actions. Yes I know there are times where nothing you do will change the outcome however if you do not give yourself the chance no one else will. This is a hard earned lesson from almost a million miles motorcycling. They pull in front of trains every day. What makes you think they'll pay attention to you?
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Old 08-04-11, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by foulmouthfool View Post
I'm not sure if he intended to hit me or scare me or just didn't care either way, I did not catch him and I did not kick out his tail light. Thats just what I wanted to do at the time.
Got it. I thought he got away, but the kicking in the tail light sounded like you caught up to him. I'm not against kicking in tail lights btw.
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Old 08-04-11, 12:02 PM
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Did you get his license number and report him?
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This is why I ride the last/first couple miles of my commute on the sidewalk, there's no shoulder near here and trying to assert my legal right to a road lane is simply suicide so I don't even attempt it.
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Old 08-04-11, 12:19 PM
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Report him for what, not hitting him?

Good luck with that. Unfortunately, there are no shortage of drivers who think that cyclists need to be confined to sidewalks.
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I didn't get his license plate number, but since I live down a dead end road I'm sure he lives back in there so I will probably see him again. I would cruise the hoods and look for the car to get the tag #, but most of them are gated. Since he was driving a benz, I'd assume he lives in one of the gated. I usually ride or walk my bike through the woods to hit a paved trail when I leave my house even though we are supposedly in a "bike friendly" community, but I just felt like hitting the road yesterday. The ironic thing is where it happened was within rock throwing distance of a "share the road" type sign.
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Old 08-04-11, 01:46 PM
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I mainly ride on two lane country roads and the drivers are generally courteous, which is a good thing, but every now and then someone gets too close. I installed a rear view mirror about six months ago and I've been surprised how much it increases my sense of security. You can see people start to swing around you (or not) and if someone seems unaware you can keep an eye on them. Luckily I haven't had to bail yet but I feel like if I do I might have a critical second or two earlier awareness.

The biggest problem around here is pickups and SUVs with trailers -- the often seem unaware that the trailer wheelbase is wider than their vehicle's. I pull waaaaayyyyy right when I see one of those coming up behind me.
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Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
Unfortunately, there are no shortage of drivers who think that cyclists need to be confined to sidewalks.
Ironically, those same drivers tend not to confine themselves to the freeway.

This kind of stuff comes with the territory. It would be great if cyclists never got harassed by drivers, or were never affected by inattentive drivers. But it happens. Our choice is to either stay off the roads entirely ( and probably off the trails, too, because of people walking their dogs on retractable leashes, etc ), or to accept that somebody is going to **** us off now and then. It's a lot like flats. What I'm trying to say is don't get too worked up about it. There's little you can do about this jerk at this point, but one thing you can't do is let it get you down.
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Old 08-04-11, 02:54 PM
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At times I think people ae just not aware of the right half of the car they are driving! The rest of the time I vote JERK! I have had a few as I have rode.
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Originally Posted by FORDSVTPARTS View Post
This is why I ride the last/first couple miles of my commute on the sidewalk, there's no shoulder near here and trying to assert my legal right to a road lane is simply suicide so I don't even attempt it.
Take


The


Lane.



If you want to assert your right to be on the road, and there isn't sufficient clearance for cars to safely pass you without moving into oncoming traffic, you have to take the lane, so they can't even TRY to squeeze past you.

That's when cyclists get killed: they try to be nice by hugging the shoulder on a narrow road, and they get clipped by cars who view it as an opportunity to thread the needle between you and that oncoming SUV... well, if they decide they don't have enough room, you can bet they're not going to head-on the SUV.
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I am guessing you are in Ga, as we just passed a new 3 ft rule that was MUCH needed around here. If so, what part? I live down in McDonough and would love to find some people to ride with again. I am going to go to my first group ride, C pace, on Monday. In no hurry to get back to those B and + pace rides where everyone like to pretend they are a pro and kill each other attacking the whole ride.
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Originally Posted by RichardGlover View Post
Take


The


Lane.



If you want to assert your right to be on the road, and there isn't sufficient clearance for cars to safely pass you without moving into oncoming traffic, you have to take the lane, so they can't even TRY to squeeze past you.

That's when cyclists get killed: they try to be nice by hugging the shoulder on a narrow road, and they get clipped by cars who view it as an opportunity to thread the needle between you and that oncoming SUV... well, if they decide they don't have enough room, you can bet they're not going to head-on the SUV.
Sorry but I am NOT going to be run over by some idiot on their way to work shaving/putting on makeup while texting and eating a sausage Mcmuffin.

I was hit once already this year when I had the right of way and was paying complete attention to my surroundings.

I work in a fairly commercial area and have to ride along a four lane road with a 40mph limit that most of these people drive at 50+ and the shoulder is about 10 inches wide, I have to contend with everything from cars to semis and multiple intersections and freeway on/off ramps.

If I tried to take the full lane I'd be run over in no time even with my little blinky red light, it's simply not worth it.

I ride the majority of the way on the side of the road and the last two miles or so are the problem, thankfully there is a sidewalk and I will continue to use it until (not likely) they build a bike lane.



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I can understand the logic of taking the lane, but as someone who has been hit (on foot, not on bike) by a car doing 40 mph, I'm a little gun shy on that.

punkncat, I'm actually in Mississippi.

The whole thing took place right by these two signs:








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Old 08-05-11, 07:27 AM
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On this same stretch of road six years ago I was rear ended in my car by a woman who was too busy yelling at her kid in the passengers seat to bother stopping, smashed the rear of my car and pushed me into the truck in front of me.

I wouldn't be here typing if I had been on my bike that day.



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Originally Posted by FORDSVTPARTS View Post
Sorry but I am NOT going to be run over by some idiot on their way to work shaving/putting on makeup while texting and eating a sausage Mcmuffin.

If I tried to take the full lane I'd be run over in no time even with my little blinky red light, it's simply not worth it.

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^^I'm with this right here. I'm not sure how the drivers act where RicardGlover lives, but here where I live unfortunately, drivers dont take very kindly to a bike rider with a combined weight of maybe 200lbs and a top speed in the 20-30s asserting their right to "take the lane" in front of their 3500lb SUV while there is a sale on ipods at the local Best Buy. And that's giving them the credit that they're even paying attention in the first place.

Sometimes you just have to pick your battles. I'm not going to risk dying to prove a point to someone who doesnt care about anyone but themselves anyway.
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Originally Posted by FORDSVTPARTS View Post
On this same stretch of road six years ago I was rear ended in my car by a woman who was too busy yelling at her kid in the passengers seat to bother stopping, smashed the rear of my car and pushed me into the truck in front of me.

I wouldn't be here typing if I had been on my bike that day..


Oh gee glad you made it out alive that day. I drive for a living and I tell you I steer away from a mother whos yelling at her children. I switch lanes or pull over. Its scary.
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Yesterday, I took the lane in a 2->1 merge right before a stop light and some idiot woman in an SUV actually drove in the oncoming traffic at about 2mph to try to drive around me as though my bicycle while coming to a stop at a stop light in the middle of the lane was impeding her ability to drive. I don't know where she thought she was going since I was stopping about 3' behind the car in front of me.

I used the AirZound horn on her and she suddenly started driving like I was an actual vehicle.

Maybe I'll start a thread that's just stories of how the airzound helps.

Originally Posted by RichardGlover View Post
Take The Lane.


If you want to assert your right to be on the road, and there isn't sufficient clearance for cars to safely pass you without moving into oncoming traffic, you have to take the lane, so they can't even TRY to squeeze past you.

That's when cyclists get killed: they try to be nice by hugging the shoulder on a narrow road, and they get clipped by cars who view it as an opportunity to thread the needle between you and that oncoming SUV... well, if they decide they don't have enough room, you can bet they're not going to head-on the SUV.
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XR2 - My issue is the vehicle drivers are not pulling in front of trains often enough!

And when the benz and it's home are found, I would put photos of those signs on his windshield and mail photo copies of them and the laws to him every other day for 2 weeks. I don't care what it would cost me...

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Originally Posted by iconicflux View Post
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Maybe I'll start a thread that's just stories of how the airzound helps.
Do it!
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I am guessing you are in Ga, as we just passed a new 3 ft rule that was MUCH needed around here. If so, what part?
Hey I think drivers are actually paying attention to it here in Roswell/Alpharetta anyway. Some a bit too far, refusing to pass even though there's room. I guess it takes some adjustment time.
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