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Old 09-15-11, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by chefisaac View Post
what is the function of a dork disc?
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keeps the chain from falling between the spokes and cassette and potentially tearing up your wheel, derailler and derailler hangar.
In theory.

In reality, my commuter bike has a dork disc on it, and what you described happened to it. Chain came off the biggest cog in the cassette and destroyed the wheel. The dork disc survived, though.

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... I hear "PING!!!!" saw something fly pass my face and then hear him yell "STOPPING!", he had broke another spoke. I told him he was lucky that blade did not hit me cause it was travelling back so fast it would have done massive damage to my face or worse, put out an eye!
You ride with glasses of some kind, right? To protect your eyes from bugs, or whatever else, when you're cruising down a hill at speed...?
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Old 09-15-11, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by motobecane69 View Post
BTW, bike weighed in at 17.1 lbs no pedals no computer, 62 cm frame. Beanz I know your not a.carbon guy but you are a climber, if your in the market for a bike you should consider this.
It looks like a nice bike. But holy carp, it's a light one! My R3 (in 58 cm) is 17.95 pounds with the pedals (310 g) and computer. In grams per dollar, you're doing a lot better than I am. I have no doubt you'll enjoy it.
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Old 09-15-11, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
Peace of mind, top condition, and proper maintenance by a good wheel builder but having to true the wheel every 500 miles ?

I ride the 20 lb Deep V's. First and only minor truing came at 13,000 miles. Now that is peace of mind. Stressing about rim weight as a Clyde, the only thing that slows me down on the climbs is Ben and Jerry's, not the wheels.
It was a personal preference that i chose to do it that way. Overkill, probably. Necessary, probably not. But i felt better having honestly true wheels, not just "true enough", which i find most people seem to be perfectly content with. Which will lead to broken spokes, and bent rims.
As for my obsession with truing, when the wheels were new everything wasnt fully tensioned, and required regular maintenance to get them dialed in. After the first 3 services, every subsequent service was because i did something to them (like the wind blowing my trunk lid onto my rear wheel, DOH!), or because they were EVER so slightly out of true from a rough hit, because of a hole or ridge i didnt see in the road. Nothing inherently wrong with the wheels. I am just a stickler about my mechanics, and prefer to have everything in tip top shape.

I think it goes back to my touring car racing days, and being a complete loon about safety, and maintenance. To me, and i think this is doubly true on a bicycle, especially when its going downhill at 50MPH, that maintenance is just as much about safety as it is anything else.
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Old 09-15-11, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardGlover View Post
Yeah, some cyclists don't want to have to have their wheels checked every month, or in the middle of a 1200k.
For me, i would check them after every weekend.
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Old 09-15-11, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Pamestique View Post
Not that this was the problem or anything... but had a friend, weighed around 240 -250; constantly breaking spokes on his Ksyrium wheels (he was a a "masher" and rode hard). I explained to him there is an weight limit although you have to look very closely at information available. He dismissed me. Riding behind him one time I hear "PING!!!!" saw something fly pass my face and then hear him yell "STOPPING!", he had broke another spoke. I told him he was lucky that blade did not hit me cause it was travelling back so fast it would have done massive damage to my face or worse, put out an eye! He finally got the message and bought new wheels (plus it was literally the 8 time he had to fix his wheels).

I think Buck makes a good point... no reason you can't ride those wheels but just be diligent in checking the wheels to make sure they are in good shape.

But beautiful bike... enjoy!
After the second spoke broke, i would be taking my wheels to a different wheel builder. There is no reasonable excuse for that.

The tire should pinch flat from weight long before a spoke breaks. And if your wheels is trued properly, and maintained regularly, no single spoke should ever be strained or stressed enough to pop under weight.

Im 275, and mash like crazy on the flats, and have a high cadence. Plus i bunny hop obstacles regularly on the crappy roads around my house. And i still have yet to pop a spoke. Which leads me to believe that the wheel is not maintained correctly, more then the wheel is inherently flawed in design.
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Originally Posted by Buck_O View Post
But i felt better having honestly true wheels, not just "true enough"
Yeah, so am I. But again, it was only slightly out of true at 13,000 miles. I'm real picky when it comes ot my wheels, that's why I build my own.

I wonder just how "true" a wheel with 18/20 spokes can be vs a wheel with 32 spokes?


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Im 275, and mash like crazy on the flats, and have a high cadence.
Mash with a high cadence? ....................

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Old 09-15-11, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by motobecane69 View Post
IT's THE SHIZNIT!

i'll get called a shill for this but once again Bikes Direct delivers BIG TIME. I can't explain the feel of the ride, I know that it's a new bike and of course i'm going to FORCE myself to love it but it really just feels amazing. My old bike was a 60cm motobecane grand sprint but i built that from the frame up with a variety of parts. This was bought stock from Bikes direct after getting a renters insurance payout for my commuter bike that got jacked a couple of weeks ago.

Any clydes here riding ksyrium elites? it was in my original plan to sell these wheels as soon as I got the bike but man, they look so nice on the bike. EVen the guys at my lbs were all complimenting on how nice of a bike it was and specifically how nice the wheels are! I've heard the ksyriums are stout but I just cant picture myself on 18spoke front 20 spoke rear that isn't a deep profile rim
Nice ride...congrats/ Enjoy her!
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Old 09-15-11, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Pamestique View Post
Not that this was the problem or anything... but had a friend, weighed around 240 -250; constantly breaking spokes on his Ksyrium wheels (he was a a "masher" and rode hard). I explained to him there is an weight limit although you have to look very closely at information available. He dismissed me. Riding behind him one time I hear "PING!!!!" saw something fly pass my face and then hear him yell "STOPPING!", he had broke another spoke. I told him he was lucky that blade did not hit me cause it was travelling back so fast it would have done massive damage to my face or worse, put out an eye! He finally got the message and bought new wheels (plus it was literally the 8 time he had to fix his wheels).

I think Buck makes a good point... no reason you can't ride those wheels but just be diligent in checking the wheels to make sure they are in good shape.

But beautiful bike... enjoy!
Thats why you should always wear glasses! I've never had a spoke go flying when it breaks both pieces usually stay attached. of course i've only broken a couple of spokes on a crap wheelset that I bought used and didn't trust so I rode them slow.

One reason to keep them would be that mavic does warrant them for 2 years but alas, I've got someone on the way over with cash to buy them!
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Old 09-15-11, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
You ride with glasses of some kind, right? To protect your eyes from bugs, or whatever else, when you're cruising down a hill at speed...?
Thanks for your concern...Generally I always have glasses (on the weekends I ride with prescription Oakleys) on and did that day... but that spoke came back so hard and so fast (I am not exaggerating - like a long, stiff, bladed bullet!), it could have easily penetrated through or around the plastic and caused some injury. We went back to look for the spoke. It was way way back.
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Originally Posted by motobecane69 View Post
but alas, I've got someone on the way over with cash to buy them!
No "alas" that's cash money you can put towards a new set of custom wheels!

I have a lovely set of Mavic/CK hubs 32/36 spoke wheels on my bike. They are light and rock solid, make a great racketing, angry bee sound!
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Originally Posted by Pamestique View Post
Thanks for your concern...Generally I always have glasses (on the weekends I ride with prescription Oakleys) on and did that day... but that spoke came back so hard and so fast (I am not exaggerating - like a long, stiff, bladed bullet!), it could have easily penetrated through or around the plastic and caused some injury. We went back to look for the spoke. It was way way back.
That's even more scary.

I stopped wearing glasses and went with contacts. But I make sure to always have a pair of shades with me. I took a gnat in the eye once, at low speed, and it didn't do any lasting damage, but it wasn't fun, either. You learn something new every day, but some days you learn more than others... The idea of getting hit by anything, in the eye, going down a long hill scares me enough to always have something for my eyes. Now that the clouds came back, though, I need new shades that don't block much/any light. I stopped wearing glasses because I'm really good at losing them, though.

You mostly ride in the mountains, though, don't you? On trails, I'm guessing? Probably safer (in this respect at least) than cycling around the city, when someone isn't launching debris at you?
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Old 09-15-11, 06:13 PM
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Wow gorgeous bike! I'm considering Bikes Direct when it's time to buy a new bike because the prices and value looks so impressive. Even if I have to get the bike delivered via another shipper, their bikes look worth it.
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Wow gorgeous bike! I'm considering Bikes Direct when it's time to buy a new bike because the prices and value looks so impressive. Even if I have to get the bike delivered via another shipper, their bikes look worth it.
your not too far from the States if your in Toronto. I'm sure you could find some sort of freight forwarder to ship it. Their value is well worth it. Honestly, even if you paid a bike shop $150 to assemble it and tune it, it would be an amazing value.

My bike is the immortal Fire with SRAM FORCE all around and Mavic Ksyrium Elite wheels. $1899

Cannondale Synapse Carbon with SRAM RIVAL (they don't offer it with Force), and Mavic Aksium wheels (bottom of the barrel Mavic wheels) $2549

Trek Madone 5.4 With SRAM FORCE and Bontrager Race Lite Wheels (not the worst Bontrager wheels but nowhere near as nice as the Ksyriums) $4099

Now don't get me wrong, my friend has a madone, it's a great frame and a sweet bike, but the wheels are junk compared to the rest of the quality of the bike and it's also a $4000 bike!!!

I'll take my slightly outdated carbon technology (so i'm told) for half the price.
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Originally Posted by Pamestique View Post
Thanks for your concern...Generally I always have glasses (on the weekends I ride with prescription Oakleys) on and did that day... but that spoke came back so hard and so fast (I am not exaggerating - like a long, stiff, bladed bullet!), it could have easily penetrated through or around the plastic and caused some injury. We went back to look for the spoke. It was way way back.
You'd be surprised what Oakleys can take.
15' with light bb shotgun load.

However, OT, That's a really nice bike. I like the frame and such, different than stuff I've seen before.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
Yeah, so am I. But again, it was only slightly out of true at 13,000 miles. I'm real picky when it comes ot my wheels, that's why I build my own.

I wonder just how "true" a wheel with 18/20 spokes can be vs a wheel with 32 spokes?




Mash with a high cadence? ....................
I think an 18/20 spoke can be just as true as a 32 spoke. Its all in how well the wheel is tensioned. I am sure that after a while, say with the super low spoke count TT wheels, that are built purely for weight savings, that sort of thinking will become moot. But with the strong bladed spokes, and proper tensioning from an experienced wheel builder, it should be just as true. In the long run, youre right, a 32 spoke will probably stay truer longer, because youre giving the wheel twice as many chances to not destroy itself. And truly the wheel would be for all intents and purposes, overbuilt for your riding style. I.e. youre not a tandem.

My last comment was being hammered out right before I bolted out the door, so it wasn't quite a complete thought.
On the flats I mash big time. Almost always turning a higher gear then I know I should. On regular riding, especially when I am conditioning, I will spin at 90 to 115 rpm, and always try to stay on top of the gear. When I do hills, I usually TRY to keep a high cadence, but when the grade gets over 4.5% or so for any distance (like mountain passes), my legs dont like that sustained high cadence, and tire quickly, so I usually end up mashing a higher gear on the steep stuff again to get me over the top. My riding style probably leaves alot to be desired, but its my way of struggling through, and not being last.
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