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Old 09-24-11, 10:32 PM
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Right foot question...Picture.

Can someone look at this pic for me and tell me what can do to make my right foot NOT turn in towards the bike like it does? It ends up hitting the chain housing sometimes. Not sure why it's like that or what is causing it to turn in on the bike. I dont turn it when I walk or run.

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Old 09-24-11, 10:54 PM
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From the picture it looks like your saddle is too high and you are coming through the bottom of the pedal stroke with your toes down which may be causing you to pull your ankle inwards... can see your right calf flexing as it does this.

Your calf muscles should not be very engaged when you ride... it is an activity that should engage the muscles in the upper leg and glutes which are the biggest and strongest.

Ideally, you want to come through the bottom of the pedal stroke with your foot flat and make like you are scraping gum off the bottom of your shoe... this will engage the muscles in your upper leg which are much more efficient and help with developing a smooth pedalling stroke and spin.

This is also beneficial as when you are climbing it allows you to do a light heel press on the down stroke which will aid in climbing.
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No cost answer, maybe try moving your foot out more on the pedal
and just be more conscious of the angle of your foot. Is your leg
slightly bent on the lowest pedal position or is it completely straight?

Some cost involved answer, get toe clips or clipless pedals that have
zero float.
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Hmmm...my calves are usually sore after a ride, but not during. Dont feel anything at ALL in my glutes, but I do feel it mostly in my quads. Saddle is all of the way down. when the guy at the bike store set me up, he made sure that my foot was on the pedal with a slight bend in my knees when it was at the bottom. He also wanted me to be on the balls of my foot, but i find myself pushing more with my toes for some reason.

I wish I had the money to get fitted like I am supposed to be.
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Hmmm...my calves are usually sore after a ride, but not during. Dont feel anything at ALL in my glutes, but I do feel it mostly in my quads. Saddle is all of the way down. when the guy at the bike store set me up, he made sure that my foot was on the pedal with a slight bend in my knees when it was at the bottom. He also wanted me to be on the balls of my foot, but i find myself pushing more with my toes for some reason.

I wish I had the money to get fitted like I am supposed to be.
I am a fairly competent fitter and need to be since I work in the industry on numerous levels from being a mechanic to a builder and in this one really needs to know how to properly fit someone for the type of bicycle and riding they are doing.

If your calves are sore after a ride it could be a sign that your pedaling technique needs a little work and you should not be pedaling on the balls of your feet as again, this engages those calf muscles more so positioning your foot a little forward is desireable.
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So, the pedal needs to be pushed with more of the middle/back of the balls? OK. Ill try that tomorrow.
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So, the pedal needs to be pushed with more of the middle/back of the balls? OK. Ill try that tomorrow.
If you can, have someone take a picture from the side when your leg is at full extension...
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Old 09-24-11, 11:35 PM
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I can get my wife to do that tomorrow as well.
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Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver View Post
I am a fairly competent fitter and need to be since I work in the industry on numerous levels from being a mechanic to a builder and in this one really needs to know how to properly fit someone for the type of bicycle and riding they are doing.

If your calves are sore after a ride it could be a sign that your pedaling technique needs a little work and you should not be pedaling on the balls of your feet as again, this engages those calf muscles more so positioning your foot a little forward is desireable.
Good stuff...but did you notice the ticker at the bottom of Allen's posts? He's been riding barely a week.
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I may not be seeing the same things others are. The picture looks to me like you're rotating your foot out, not in (that is, your heel is closer to the bike than your toes). And pedaling with your toes is definitely going to overwork calves and other stabilizing muscles in your lower leg that should't normally get stressed much during riding. I wouldn't say to move your foot as far as Sixty Fiver is suggesting (I've always had the best success with the ball directly over the pedal axle), but you really do need to get the pedal more underfoot and not under your toes.

Your pic also points up one of the problems I've always found with riding in running-type shoes: they tend to have wide-platform soles under the heel and ball of the foot for running stability, and that extra width tends to catch on crankarms. In fact, if I had to guess from looking at the photo, you're already a little conscious of this extra width and might be trying to compensate for it a little. Look at your left foot and see where a centerline dropped vertically from the middle of the foot falls relative to the pedal. It's right in line with the outside edge of the pedal. I'm thinking that you're feeling a little insecure on the pedal because of that, and you're unconsciously rotating your right heel in toward the bike to try to regain a little sense of security - so it feels less like you're about to fall off the edge of the pedal.

That's just my guess. I could be all wet.

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Good stuff...but did you notice the ticker at the bottom of Allen's posts? He's been riding barely a week.
A week of riding is also good stuff...
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