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Old 11-03-11, 01:53 PM
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Large carbon frames for clyde

I have been happily rolling along on my 62cm Long Haul Trucker for the past few years. This summer I rode a friend's Roubaix and was hooked, I want to go faster.
So now I'm looking around and have found by a fitting I need a 64 cm frame. I am 6'5" and a full grown Clyde at 275 lbs.
Anybody have any success stories with large size carbon I can get in the $2000 range. Unfortunately the Roubaix model available in 64 cm is around $3500, out of my budget.
I plan to ride a Titanium frame as well before I act, but again pretty pricey.
I want to roll faster, but enjoy distance riding so any racing geometries are out, I am looking for something comfortable, but need to keep up with my skinny friends. I averaged 2 mph average speed increase cruising on the Roubaix from my LHT.
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Old 11-03-11, 01:59 PM
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I think there is a madone that fits your criteria.
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You may just want to get a $2,000 frame and move your components over.

I've been riding carbon for the past 6-7 years. I started on a $3500 bike (Kuota Kharma w/Ultegra) and am now on a Leopard DC-1 (moved my components over). The Leopard is almost as good as the Kuota. I figure both frames are $2,000-ish, with the Ultegra being $1,500 or so. In my experience shopping, purchasing & riding, there is a difference between $2,000 frames and $1,000 frames.

I ride a 60cm, am 6'3" tall and 260 lbs.
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I think it'll be hard to find many frames in the 64 cm range. How did the fitting that led you to think this is the correct size go? I'm guessing it was a few measurements to help you pick a frame, but that you haven't had a chance to do long rides on the result?

What if you were to find, say, a 61 cm frame, and use a 140 mm stem in place of the 110 mm it's likely to come with? The reason I ask is that a lot of the road bikes I looked at, were made in sizes up to around 61 cm.
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Originally Posted by gunner65 View Post
I think there is a madone that fits your criteria.
Looking at the Trek site, I see 62 max, OP says he wants a 64 after a fitting.
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Old 11-03-11, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mkadam68 View Post
You may just want to get a $2,000 frame and move your components over.

I've been riding carbon for the past 6-7 years. I started on a $3500 bike (Kuota Kharma w/Ultegra) and am now on a Leopard DC-1 (moved my components over). The Leopard is almost as good as the Kuota. I figure both frames are $2,000-ish, with the Ultegra being $1,500 or so. In my experience shopping, purchasing & riding, there is a difference between $2,000 frames and $1,000 frames.

I ride a 60cm, am 6'3" tall and 260 lbs.
http://www.leopardcycles.com/proddet...opard-2010-DC1

Holy....frame alone is $2600+
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Look at a custom build. Calfee, comes to mind, then it can be made to take both
rider size and the kind of stresses a big rider exerts on the frame..

Lennard Zinn is another builder who serves big and tall,
but I have no idea if he is tooled up to make Carbon laminates.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
Looking at the Trek site, I see 62 max, OP says he wants a 64 after a fitting.

my knowledge on this is highly limited, but isnt a 64 on a compact frame the same as a 62 on a *regular frame? and again my lack-of-knowledge kicks in here is the madone a compact frame?
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Originally Posted by CJ C View Post
my knowledge on this is highly limited, but isnt a 64 on a compact frame the same as a 62 on a *regular frame? and again my lack-of-knowledge kicks in here is the madone a compact frame?
Nope, they are the same. The compact may have a lower top tube to straddle at a stop but the virtual top tube lenght and seat height is the same as a traditional frame.


Under fit and sizing, check out dimensions Q and D.

farme is sloping but the D is still the same length and measured as a traditional. The Q is still measured to the virtual point of where the top tube would meet the seat tube.


http://www.trekbikes.com/ca/en/bikes...4_6_h2_compact
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thanks beanz!!!

so to put it simple fitting a bike you really look at *virtual top tube?
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Originally Posted by CJ C View Post
thanks beanz!!!

so to put it simple fitting a bike you really look at *virtual top tube?
pretty much yup!
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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
Look at a custom build.
But be cautious.

I wrecked an aluminum frame in a minor crash a couple years ago. The manufacturer was able to replace it, and I had a chance to change frame sizes, since I'd got mine used. So, I had the shop's fitter do some basic measurements and tell me which frame size I needed. ( He said 57.3, so I got another 58, same as the one I wrecked. ) If the OP was told he needs a 64 cm frame, but hasn't actually been on one ... I'd want to double and triple check the fit first.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
But be cautious. If the OP was told he needs a 64 cm frame, but hasn't actually been on one ... I'd want to double and triple check the fit first.

Not to mention some mfgers measure center to top, and another may measure center to center, or any combo.

You could have different size suggestions depending on the brand the dealer is selling. Could be a 64 in Cannondale and a 62 in Trek.
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I'm 6'2" and a Size 60 4.5 Madone feels stretched out to me.
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Originally Posted by gunner65 View Post
I think there is a madone that fits your criteria.
Oops, I see that the Madone 5.2 is out of your budget.

A quick look shows the Trek Madone 5.2 available in 64cm, there may be others as well:
http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes...ies/madone_5_2

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Old 11-03-11, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by sparkout View Post
Unfortunately the Roubaix model available in 64 cm is around $3500, out of my budget.
Which Roubaix are you considering: the one from Fuji or the one from Specialized? Most of Specialized's Roubaix models are available with 64cm frames, including the $2200 Roubaix Apex Compact. The only one that doesn't list 64cm as an option is the Roubaix Compact. This might just be a mistake on the website...
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Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
I was fortunate to get mine via a Team Deal. Didn't pay nearly so much.
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I'm 6'3" and ride a Size 58 Cannondale 6. No issues in 2 years
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Please don't say your height and your bike size without your leg/inseam length and your crank length. Probably also helps to get a rough measurement of how much seatpost is showing.

That said, if your size is on the outer edges (tall/short), I'd suggest seeking out a true custom fit, where the (ideal) bike fits you, rather than you trying to fit the bike. There's a shop here in San Antonio TX that does just that...every customer I've met says the bike was perfect the moment they swung a leg over. $375, but I told my wife that if our tandem frame ever cracked, we're both going to KGS for measurements before having the replacement frame custom-fit to our measurements.
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I'm 6'3" and ride a Size 58 Cannondale 6. No issues in 2 years
34 inseam.
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I bought a Roubaix in the XXXL 64cm over the summer. I really like it. I would suggest to save your $$ up for one.
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Get a Gunnar Sport.

It has sport geometry, and is a wonderful bike.

They will also make a custom fit for a reasonable amount of money ($1250 w/o fork)
There is a 66 and 68 if you need the larger size, but don't need custom.

I have the curved steel fork and prefer it. I've ridden coast to coast across Italy on it.
Around Lake Champlain, down the coast of Maine from Acadia to Portland.

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Originally Posted by jethro56 View Post
I'm 6'2" and a Size 60 4.5 Madone feels stretched out to me.
33" inseam
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Originally Posted by alsoran22 View Post
34 inseam.
And crank length?
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I'll play - 6' 3.5", 34 inch inseam, with gorilla long arms. My BMC RaceMaster is a 61 cm -110mm stem - 175 mm crank arms and the Colnago CT-1 Titanium is 60 cm - 110 mm stem - 175 mm crank arms.

Unless the OP is all arms and legs, a 64 cm frame seems on the large size of things. I don't want to outright question the person who did the "fitting", but I've seen and heard of some crazy things coming from people who sounded like an authority on the subject. Maybe another fitting is necessary...
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