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Old 03-21-12, 04:23 PM
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why not a CX bike for clydes?

So, I am 220Lbs, have been looking at some road bikes, I currently tool around with a Jamis Hybrid which I like, I am starting to think CX, larger tires with drops... heck I am not into racing , I can get a fine work out, and go of the beaten path even.... I do ride on roads mostly, anyone else thinking along these lines...
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The CX bikes are catching on for all types of riding. It opens more doors than true skinny tires, but hefty enough for trail riding. I not a comfortable rider int he drops, but the bike seems fine for a broad variety of environments. I'm still happy with my XC MTB. I put slicks on it if I will be doing some commuting or a Century. The gearing won't have the top end of a road bike, but at my age I need to stay within my limits.
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Originally Posted by Pistard
So, I am 220Lbs, have been looking at some road bikes, I currently tool around with a Jamis Hybrid which I like, I am starting to think CX, larger tires with drops... heck I am not into racing , I can get a fine work out, and go of the beaten path even.... I do ride on roads mostly, anyone else thinking along these lines...
Been there.... and got a Specialized Tricross to go alongside the Rockhopper. Truth be told I don't ride the Rockhopper much these days because the Tricross will take me to most of the places I want to go. If I want to play in the mud the Rockhopper gets an outing - the tyres on the Tricross are fairly slick so it doesn't handle a whole lot of mud very well.

If I had to choose a single bike I'd most likely lose the Rockhopper and put slightly chunkier tyres on the Tricross, probably 700x35 Marathon Extremes.
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My new commuter is a CX bike (Fuji Cross 3.0) and I'm really liking it. Even with 700c x 35 slicks, I have plenty of room for fenders.
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Building a Surly Cross Check now. If I want to go fast that's what the Roadbike is for. The Cross check will be for rough oil and chip roads, light trails possibly a credit card tour.
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I picked up a barely used Tricoss Comp three years ago, after not having a road bike for a long time. After 7k miles and hundreds of commutes to work, every time I ride it I'm still amazed at how much I love this bike, how buttery smooth and fast it is over all kinds of road surface from nice and smooth to chopped and crappy. It's not twitchy at all. The geometry is perfect for me, and I'm comfortable in the drops, up top, or on the hoods. I lucked into a bike that is perfect for me.
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Own a crosscheck and while I use it mainly offroad it is equally adept at light touring to road.. Just make sure get the right size if you choose a cross bike.. General rule for most cross frames are that you buy 1 size under you road frame size.. I ride 60cm on road and 58cm for my surly crosshcheck..
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Lots of Clydes ride CX bikes. Go for it.
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My roadbike is a Cdale Caadx. with 36 spoke wheels. Bought it when I weighed 300 lbs. No problems to date. Now that I'm lighter, I'll keep it.
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IMHO cyclocross frame/fork is perfect road bike for a clyde. Surly Cross Check can be set up with road components including good wheels and 28mm 700c tires for a road/light touring setup. Plenty of clearance to slap on some 38mm tires for a little playing off road. Tough, not overly heavy, reasonably fast, good looking bike.
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I'm riding a Kona Jake and love it. I have a rack for my trunk bag for commuting, and use it for most of my road rides. I save the road bike for faster group rides and such, but if I had limit myself to only one road oriented bike, it would be my CX bike. It is just to versatile not to keep.
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At 220 that isnt too heavy, I have a cross check and it is a great bike. This is my second CX bike, the first was a Trek xo1 and it was a good bike also.
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For all you with a cross check, does it have mounts for fenders and front and rear racks? I simply can't tell from their website?

And have you put panniers on it and done any light touring?
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I am looking into a CX bike also... I am currently riding a Trek 4300 disc with street slicks to commute to work and my road rides, just picked up another set of rims and tires so it is easy to convert to trail rides. I am wondering how big the difference in gearing is. I understand they are more efficient due to the posture on the bike, but what else is there... A large chunk of coin for a decent CX bike... gotta be able to sell it to the wife... please help me.... give me the weapons to help me spend some money!!!!
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My Rockhopper has 44/32/22 at the front and a 9-sp 11-34 at the back, so the gears range from 22/34 to 44/11

My Tricross has a 50/39/30 at the front and a 9-sp 11-32 at the back, so the gears range from 30/32 to 50/11

The Tricross also has slightly higher gearing because it has larger wheels (700x32 instead of 26x2.0). That said a hill that defeated me on the Rockhopper didn't defeat me on the Tricross. Some Tricross models have a double chainring rather than a triple, and IIRC some have a 52/42/30 triple.

Truth be told the gearing at the top end is largely academic, as the only time I used 44/11 on the MTB or 50/11 on the CX were after I'd tweaked something and wanted to test it worked OK. As a fellow Clyde yourself I don't imagine you're going to be doing huge sprints in the biggest gears, Cavendish style.

The best way to see for yourself what difference it makes is to go and ride one. See how you like it, then decide whether the benefits you see are worth the money. I know it's largely a figure of speech but I'd urge anyone away from "help me justify this purchase" - I'd say to anyone that if you don't know why you need something the chances are you don't need it at all.
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BTW, if you're that desperate to spend the money feel free to send it to me. I'll spend it for you, and I'll even promise to send you a photo of me enjoying whatever it was I bought with it.
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@vesteroid: The CrossCheck, like pretty much all Surlys, has more eyelets and braze-ons than you can imagine. As far as touring on it goes, it's not a dedicated machine like the LHT, but it's lighter, has shorter chain stays, and is more aggressive. If you want to do light touring on it, Surly says it's fine.
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I am wondering if I can swap out my chain rings.... I have never used the small chain ring on my bike... Hmmm, would be much cheaper to go that way... time to go to my LBS to talk shop... he is very good to me... Thanks!
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I too belong to the the CX club. I have a Tricross Sport (2011). Ride it 75% of the time. The other 25% in on my road bike. My MTB is in the corner collecting dust. Kind of sad really.
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BTW, if you're that desperate to spend the money feel free to send it to me. I'll spend it for you, and I'll even promise to send you a photo of me enjoying whatever it was I bought with it.
I have the urge to spend money I don't have, or i would definitely share it with everyone!!!
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I traded my CX bike in on a second road bike.
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Wow, I'm another Tricross owner, though I built mine from the frame up as a 3/10 spd with D-A barcons. Ultralight Tubus Fly rack on the back, and two wheelsets; 16/20 Neuvations and a heavy touring wheelset. It's a good double duty bike for me, fast around town or loaded on a trip.

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Fuji Cross Comp owner here - was my first bike purchase last April in 25 years. That WONDERFUL bike got me back into the joy of riding, and it has had tons of road miles, some CX races, and daily commutes stacked on it. As a do-everything bike, the CX is wonderful. To make it a bit better on me on some hilly rides, I put a new cassette on it with a 28 big cog. But CX bikes are great (and I am shopping for another!!).
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Originally Posted by socalrider
Just make sure get the right size if you choose a cross bike.. General rule for most cross frames are that you buy 1 size under you road frame size.. I ride 60cm on road and 58cm for my surly crosshcheck..
The reason I had heard for the "1 size under" rule for CX bike sizing had to do with racing and wanting the lightest possible bike for when you have to portage, and being a size under isn't going to be too uncomfortable when you're only racing for 45 - 60 minutes max. I don't know if that's the truth, or maybe just part of the truth...
In part it's probably also due to the steeper stem angle that most CX bikes have when compared to road rigs, for a more upright riding position.
I ride a 62cm Cross Check as my distance bike, a 60cm Conquest Pro as my race bike (only because they don't make a 62cm version) and I'm looking at a 62cm road frame because I'm not keen on the 64cm I currently have.

All that said, a CX bike is a good way to go if you want a road-ish ride, the ability to use wider tires, and don't have the money to throw at a custom randonneuring frame.
The issue with CX vs. road frames: Watch your BB height! CX bikes often use a shallow BB drop to allow for better clearance at the cranks, a concern for racing on things like off-camber turns, etc. Not a concern on the road, except for the fact that it raises your center of mass. It's nice for commuting, sitting you up just a wee bit taller to look out for traffic hazards, but it's not a necessity.
There are many capable bikes out there now that are going the route of wider tire clearance, with the ability to drop a pair of 32 or 35mm tires with full fenders, without using high-BB CX geometry.
Jamis Aurora
Salsa Casseroll
Trek 520
Raleigh Sojourn
Novara Randonee
just to name a few.
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What do you guys think about the salsa vaya...I am currently torn between that, the cross check or the LHT.

I just cant decide which one I want to build.
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