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Old 07-31-12, 02:16 PM
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Uh-oh..

Not only did I get my bike stolen, but so did my friend and his nephews. As if that wasn't enough, one of the LBS's that we visit got broken in to. "We got broken into last night. Be on the lookout for some tricked out Cervelo's, Colnago's and BMC's. They took a load of mountain bikes too."

A random spike in bicycle theft around my area...

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Old 07-31-12, 02:23 PM
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I hate thieves. Several years ago I had just bought a new Trek and chained it up out front while I ran inside to grab lunch. I'm sitting at the table eating and heard what sounded like my chain jingling so I ran out the front door. There's was a guy holding my bike just after cutting the chain. Needless to say the guy didn't get my bike. I grabbed him by the jacket before he could run and judo tossed him onto his back. But eventually he got up and ran before the cops got there and he was bigger than me so holding him down didn't work.

As far as I know the cops never got him but there were probably a dozen bikes stolen in the neighborhood earlier that week, none after that for quite a while.
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What city do you live in? I want to start checking out your Craigslist.
Kidding.

That really sucks. I hope they catch the thieves.
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such is the way of these things, theft (with exceptions) follows trends just like everything else.
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Old 07-31-12, 02:50 PM
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grabbed him by the jacket before he could run and judo tossed him onto his back. But eventually he got up and ran before the cops got there and he was bigger than me so holding him down didn't work.
Too bad you didn't know the ne-waza or osaewaza part of judo it would have helped you after you got him to the ground.
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I hate thieves. Several years ago I had just bought a new Trek and chained it up out front while I ran inside to grab lunch. I'm sitting at the table eating and heard what sounded like my chain jingling so I ran out the front door. There's was a guy holding my bike just after cutting the chain. Needless to say the guy didn't get my bike. I grabbed him by the jacket before he could run and judo tossed him onto his back. But eventually he got up and ran before the cops got there and he was bigger than me so holding him down didn't work.
And this is (one reason) why situational awareness is so important. You still have your bike.

It's also an example of why it's important to carry a sledge hammer around.
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Too bad you didn't know the ne-waza or osaewaza part of judo it would have helped you after you got him to the ground.
knee-wazoo? Mosh-testie will get them to hold still too.
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Too bad you didn't know the ne-waza or osaewaza part of judo it would have helped you after you got him to the ground.
I'm actually a very skilled wrestler, multiple time state place winner in high school and wrestled in college. The guy was just huge compared to me at the time, I was ~165 and this guy was probably 220. I held him down for quite a while in a headlock but eventually he managed to use his weight advantage to wear me down. Took the cops 20 minutes to get there.
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I don't understand how the thieves didn't get caught. The shop is on a large main road, and on top of that, they didn't just break in, they BROKE in. They smashed the glass window and loaded up on bicycles..
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Too bad you didn't know the ne-waza or osaewaza part of judo it would have helped you after you got him to the ground.
Too bad you didn't have a 9 mm. But it is really hard to carry a concealed weapon wearing bike shorts.
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There might be a cargo ship about to leave port soon so maybe they are loading up a few extra containers with last minute items like high end bicycles.

Neighboring businesses near the shop might have some surveilance video to help identify the thieves or their vehicle.

(I now feel the need to run home and check on stuff)
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I'm actually a very skilled wrestler, multiple time state place winner in high school and wrestled in college. The guy was just huge compared to me at the time, I was ~165 and this guy was probably 220. I held him down for quite a while in a headlock but eventually he managed to use his weight advantage to wear me down. Took the cops 20 minutes to get there.
I bet you scored 4 touchdowns in one game also. HAHAHAHA

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I bet you scored 4 touchdowns in one game also. HAHAHAHA

Actually, I did but it wasn't in the championship game. lol.

The incident above was while I was in college and on the wrestling team.
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Too bad you didn't have a 9 mm. But it is really hard to carry a concealed weapon wearing bike shorts.
Brandishing when your life is not in danger is illegal in many areas. But, on the other hand, there are some areas where you can protect your property with deadly force.

Cargo shorts over bike shorts is certainly an option.
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Too bad you didn't have a 9 mm. But it is really hard to carry a concealed weapon wearing bike shorts.
I met a guy on the Ghost Town Trail in central PA who carried under his oversized jersey.
 
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Too bad you didn't have a 9 mm. But it is really hard to carry a concealed weapon wearing bike shorts.
I must have missed the part about using a gun to prevent a bike theft in my CCW class
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Brandishing when your life is not in danger is illegal in many areas. But, on the other hand, there are some areas where you can protect your property with deadly force.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/26...m-off-bicycle/

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There's an infinite list of what if's when it comes to self defense scenarios. We are referring to the one where a poster says he threw a guy to the ground after he caught him stealing his bike and the guy got up and ran away. Someone posted he should have used a 9mm. Not even remotely close to the situation you posted in your article.
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I don't understand how the thieves didn't get caught. The shop is on a large main road, and on top of that, they didn't just break in, they BROKE in. They smashed the glass window and loaded up on bicycles..
I've seen footage of some "interesting" heists, only interesting because the level of planning involved.. there was one where the guys backed the truck through the front of a store, and were in and out in under 30 seconds... I can picture something very similar with this one.
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Sorry to hear that! About 4 years ago I was coming out of a store with my daughter when we heard shouting I turned and saw a man an a bike being chased by police, the man on bike started heading toward me and a second police officer came up behind us from other direction putting himself between the man and us tazer gun drawn, it all seemed like something out of a movie. The bicyclist was taken to jail for home invasion. I also hate thieves!!
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There's an infinite list of what if's when it comes to self defense scenarios. We are referring to the one where a poster says he threw a guy to the ground after he caught him stealing his bike and the guy got up and ran away. Someone posted he should have used a 9mm. Not even remotely close to the situation you posted in your article.
Exactly. Victim tackling thief ≠ Thief attacking victim. But this is getting a bit off-topic, as neither guns nor deadly force were used or planned by the OP.
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I want film of a person stealing a bike riding away and being tased by the cops Thieves - may they rot in hell
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There might be a cargo ship about to leave port soon so maybe they are loading up a few extra containers with last minute items like high end bicycles.

Neighboring businesses near the shop might have some surveilance video to help identify the thieves or their vehicle.

(I now feel the need to run home and check on stuff)
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So we did get some news. A neighbor heard some noises and saw a white van pulled up to the store. The van was white -older style a type that you do not see often and that had the double doors in the back. Hopefully the police will be able to do something with this information... Thank you for all of your concern and thoughts. We are so happy no-one was hurt, even Sam and Kadie are safe. Support local! :-)"
They posted that not too long ago. From what I've heard they still haven't been caught, nor do they have any other leads than that.
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Not only did I get my bike stolen, but so did my friend and his nephews. As if that wasn't enough, one of the LBS's that we visit got broken in to. "We got broken into last night. Be on the lookout for some tricked out Cervelo's, Colnago's and BMC's. They took a load of mountain bikes too."

A random spike in bicycle theft around my area...

please tell me you have home owner's / renter's
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please tell me you have home owner's / renter's
While I know from another thread that he lives with his parents, filing a stolen bike claim with homeowner's is usually not advisable unless you have something like a solid gold bike stolen. Not only do you have a deductible to deal with, your rate will almost certainly go up and you may even get dropped. As my agent franky admitted, if you file a homeowner's claim, make sure it's a big one.

Nearly two years ago a crackhead came into my house while we were upstair in bed watching the 11 p.m. news. He made off with my irreplaceable custom racks along with the Surly LHT they attached to. (He left the two custom IFs behind.) I sucked it up and now never foregt to lock the door and put the chain on.

I carry the original receipt with serial number in my wallet in the event I see someone riding it around. Stranger things have happenede. Several years ago, a friend of mine had a bike stolen from his house. A day or two later he went for a drive around a bad neighborhood near his house and saw someone riding his bike. The guy left it outside when he went into a store. My friend drove up, opened the side door to his van, tossed the bike in and drove off.

Even further back, a friend had his Colnago C-40 stolen from inside a place of worship. Several years later, someone showed up at the shop where the bike had been purchased trying to sell it. The shop owner was related to my friend and thoutht he recognized the bike. He made a phone call to the owner, who told him to pull remove one of the bar end plugs and look for a business card inside. Sure enough, it was there. The shop owner paid the guy the $150 or so bucks he wanted to avoid any trouble.
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