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To the Village (GMR) - First timers ride 9/1/2012

Old 08-07-12, 11:57 AM
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My thought was to keep the group together to the shack, and I agree, we would probably have to stop to rest less, unless we have more first-timers. Even stopping less, I will break no records on this ride. But at least we know what to expect now! However, I don't see this as such a "virgin" ride, and if some wanted to ride ahead at their own pace and regroup at the shack, I don't have any problem with that, as long as us slow-pokes get to rest adequately before heading on to the village. My goal is the village, and will taking the "slow and steady" approach for the first time. I will hang with any first-timers, one for support and two, I want to reserve some for the second half of the ride.
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Pfft, I'll still ride in from my house.
I can't imagine the flack you would catch if you drove!
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Originally Posted by PhotoJoe
My thought was to keep the group together to the shack, and I agree, we would probably have to stop to rest less, unless we have more first-timers. Even stopping less, I will break no records on this ride. But at least we know what to expect now! However, I don't see this as such a "virgin" ride, and if some wanted to ride ahead at their own pace and regroup at the shack, I don't have any problem with that, as long as us slow-pokes get to rest adequately before heading on to the village. My goal is the village, and will taking the "slow and steady" approach for the first time. I will hang with any first-timers, one for support and two, I want to reserve some for the second half of the ride.
I figured the same thing...I have no problem as well with some wanting to ride ahead if they are able. I will also be trying to conserve some for the "beyond the shack" portion....Riding completely alone tho is not something I would relish.
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Originally Posted by Beachgrad05
I figured the same thing...I have no problem as well with some wanting to ride ahead if they are able. I will also be trying to conserve some for the "beyond the shack" portion....Riding completely alone tho is not something I would relish.
I agree, to the shack as a group but as PJ metioned, those that want to go ahead is cool. No longer a virgin ride but I have no problem hanging back for support and motivation.

BeachG, once you go beyond the shack, you would more htanliley be able to keep up with the group if we don't hammer. The terrain flattens out some, more rolling hills, few short 1/4 mile climbs but nothing like the first 8 miles. But it woud be wise to stop right before you hit Peacock Saddle, then turn back as the next 3 miles is TOUGH!...of course I would be with yo to point out your turnaround. It would give you about 27 miles adn a bit over 3300ft of climbing.

This would be the ride, check out the ele graph, flattens out, more rollers.


https://app.strava.com/rides/12493269


I myself would plan for a partner to head back with me though. Not that there aren't plenty of rider out there that would offer help but just to be safe.
Heading back from that point is not too bad, few hills but lots of recup. HTenonce you are back to the shack, well you know the story.
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Beachgrad is going to the village. Any other questions?
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Originally Posted by PhotoJoe
Beachgrad is going to the village. Any other questions?
Yes I am!

I am a stubborn woman....just ask my husband.
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Do we have a map with elevation to the village?
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Here is TrojanHorse's Strava from his ride.

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That last 3 and a half mile climb (starting at about the 14 mile mark) isn't necessarily any worse than the first part but it's mentally exhausting, and of course you're already tired when you get there... you go around a bend and... there's more. I really wasn't expecting it for some bizarre reason, I thought it was all rolling hills to the end (ha ha, silly me).
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OK, Wife and her daughter are leaving Wednesday for a Thelma and Louse weekend, so I'm in. At first it looked like I would have to. . . er. . . get to go with them, but I'm too busy with work to get off.

I will probably do the shack faster than I did the virgin ride, but still pacing myself. Just a little faster. I'll wait at the shack, and maybe do some mini repeats back down a few hundred yards or so, to keep warm. Or not. I'll see how I feel when we get there.
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Is it 9/1 yet? I am really excited to do this. Was telling my Wednesday riding partner about doing GMR and how it was a really great ride due to the company I did it with.
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Originally Posted by Beachgrad05
Is it 9/1 yet? I am really excited to do this. Was telling my Wednesday riding partner about doing GMR and how it was a really great ride due to the company I did it with.
.....and they said? Hopefully something like "Hey, we're free on the first. What time do we meet?"
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Originally Posted by PhotoJoe
.....and they said? Hopefully something like "Hey, we're free on the first. What time do we meet?"
This particular rider is not much into hills...and so she would not be interested plus weekends are usually busy for her...plus this being a holiday weekend...she is most likely going out of town camping which she does frequently.

I am sort of hesitant to invite club members as I would be torn as most likely they would not be "ready" to continue on to the village and I would feel bad leaving them...as getting to the village is my intended goal. I think I would prefer to set up a ride to JUST do the shack just like we did our "virgin to the shack" ride this weekend to get them up GMR for their first crack at it. This time me being a "veteran" of the climb.

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Originally Posted by Beachgrad05
This time me being a "veteran" of the climb.
Seems like a certain club is going to have a certain self appointed ride leader some time soon!
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Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz
Seems like a certain club is going to have a certain self appointed ride leader some time soon!

Actually I am already a ride leader with them. Just not so much on hilly rides....I have only done the PV loop 2x. Our club President LOVES hills....she lives in Torrance and rides PV all the time. Yet she has never ridden GMR and didn't know what it was until I heard about it from this forum back when I signed up for the Big Ring ride. I was our club VP until this past weekend when I stepped down due to not having the time available for that position.
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My wife says she is probably not working on the 1st, considering it's a long weekend, so I'm about 95% certain I can join you all. Depending on the weather and how much water I have left at the shack, we'll see about heading on to the village.
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My wife says she is probably not working on the 1st, considering it's a long weekend, so I'm about 95% certain I can join you all. Depending on the weather and how much water I have left at the shack, we'll see about heading on to the village.
What I have done a few times to avoid a camelback is carry a third bottle in my jersey pocket. I picked up a cheap bottle at wallyworld that has no spout but a cap that keeps the bottle closes to avoid leaks. I carry in in my middle pocket then once I reach the shack, I use it to refill the bottle on my frame that I emptied.

So then I am only carry a very light empty container on my back or I can stash it behind a bush somehwere and pick it up on the return. If I forget, its only a couple of bucks. I guess you could do the same with a small bottled water.

But if I'm totally alone on a hot day, camelback.
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What I have done a few times to avoid a camelback is carry a third bottle in my jersey pocket.
I usually do that, I did that our last ride and I still managed to almost run out of water. But thanks to your friends for a bottle of water, Alice and Herb I believe, I had enough for the day.

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But if I'm totally alone on a hot day, camelback.
I don't have one, I've been thinking about getting one, but since the Summer is almost over, I can't quite justify the big bucks for one.


If I do make it to the village instead of going back the way we came, I'm thinking about going down Baldy Rd to Mills to Foothill then high tailing it home. Should give me over 40 miles for the day.
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I don't have one, I've been thinking about getting one, but since the Summer is almost over, I can't quite justify the big bucks for one. .
I never really wanted a CB but Gina found a special at Sam's Club or Costco (don't member, 5 years back).

She found a 85 ounce CB wannabe by High Sierra for $15. Nicely made, lots of pockets. Said she couldn't resist so she broughtit home like a good wife should.

So I tried it out offroad on the MT. Worked well but the valve dripped on my leg. SO I went to REI, picked up a CB valve and installed it. Now it's great!

Some people on the forums said the baldder would fall apart within a month, here I am years later and it's still perfect. If anything, I pick up anew bladder in a few years.

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just get those bottle of water from costco...the darn plastic is so thin it doesnt poke you in the back when you throw it in a jersey pocket. I have carried a couple of them in my back pockets without issue (well except the weight)

Then you just chuck them in the nearest trash can when empty.
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just get those bottle of water from costco...the darn plastic is so thin it doesnt poke you in the back when you throw it in a jersey pocket. I have carried a couple of them in my back pockets without issue (well except the weight)

Then you just chuck them in the nearest trash can when empty.
These the ones? Let's see....three pockets.......

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I think this is the one I have - https://www.amazon.com/Ridgeway-Kelty.../dp/B005H0OY00

I got it for about $25 at Sams club though... I tell you what, I used to avoid it like the plague but it's really nic to put all my snacks, money, cell phone etc in there instead of my jersey pocket. I also carry single serving gatorades and some energy gels and stuff. on a long ride that can really weigh down your jersey.

If I fill it with ice and then top if off with water, I usually have ice in there for 3-4 hours. it's not heavy and isn't really that hot, so i don't mind it.

I tell you what, going on a long ride that has no water - it's nice to have that "camel" back in reserve. Even with it i still didn't drink enough water last Sunday.
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I think this is the one I have - https://www.amazon.com/Ridgeway-Kelty.../dp/B005H0OY00

I got it for about $25 at Sams club though... I tell you what, I used to avoid it like the plague but it's really nic to put all my snacks, money, cell phone etc in there instead of my jersey pocket. I also carry single serving gatorades and some energy gels and stuff. on a long ride that can really weigh down your jersey.

If I fill it with ice and then top if off with water, I usually have ice in there for 3-4 hours. it's not heavy and isn't really that hot, so i don't mind it.

I tell you what, going on a long ride that has no water - it's nice to have that "camel" back in reserve. Even with it i still didn't drink enough water last Sunday.
Hmm, I didn't even notice that yours wasn't a CB brand model. Maybe a snob would care.

Yup, I have a small pocket with net separators inside, zipper pockets inside, key latch, a big pouch for a kangaroo, then the pouch for the bladder. I once did a GMR forum ride with my frame pump sticking out of the top. Another rider thought it was a portable shovel haha!
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Another rider thought it was a portable shovel haha!
I don't even want to know what he thought you needed a shovel for!
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I don't even want to know what he thought you needed a shovel for!

Hey you need someway to cover up after those "health" breaks.
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