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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 08-22-12, 02:30 PM   #1
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Las Vegas Buffets . . . Groan

Me and Mrs. Tractorlegs will be using our cool Vegas Timeshare for 7 days in a week-and-a-half and I don't know if my Weight Watcher's commitment will be able to withstand the onslaught of buffets and other culinary threats to our health! I'll try, friends, I'll try, but if I come back with a mysterious 20 to 25 pound weight gain, I will need your sympathy and help! Anyone with any proven strategies against this attack, speak now! Help!!
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A 20 lb weight gain means you ate/drank and didn't burn off 70,000 calories or 10,000 calories/day. To avoid this possibility, walk the strip instead of riding the shuttle, and use the stairs instead of the elevator.
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Plan for it. Figure out what you are going to eat and when and enjoy a few extra treats. A planned indulgence may result in less overeating than an unplanned binge.
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Plan for it. Figure out what you are going to eat and when and enjoy a few extra treats. A planned indulgence may result in less overeating than an unplanned binge.
Your plan is exactly where I'm leaning . . . Planning
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Bring your bike, ride here:

http://app.strava.com/activities/5265305

I had planned on riding that loop 2-3 times but ... no.

Alternately, rent a bike for the duration of your stay and use it. There are several shops there that rent bikes.
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I lived in Las Vegas for six years and it is said by many who know me best that you could spin me around in circles and drop me on to any floor of any casino, on the strip or off, and when I opened my eyes I could point you to the nearest exit, the nearest bar, the nearest bathroom, and the nearest restaurant, and they are probably correct. But I did not eat in buffets other than to sample them so I could offer a valid opinion when asked. There are far better quality restaurants than the buffets for far less money, and limiting yourself to the "smorgasbord" is cheating yourself out of a really quality dining experience in favor of gorging like a Greek. Poor choice......
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I lived in Las Vegas for six years and it is said by many who know me best that you could spin me around in circles and drop me on to any floor of any casino, on the strip or off, and when I opened my eyes I could point you to the nearest exit, the nearest bar, the nearest bathroom, and the nearest restaurant, and they are probably correct.
I live in El Paso and can do that . . .
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But I did not eat in buffets other than to sample them so I could offer a valid opinion when asked. There are far better quality restaurants than the buffets for far less money, and limiting yourself to the "smorgasbord" is cheating yourself out of a really quality dining experience in favor of gorging like a Greek. Poor choice......
Actually, I have a little greek blood in me . . .

Seriously I don't imagine that we will do that much damage to our weight loss goals. We love the buffet in the basement at Planet Holywood (used to be Aladdin, and used to be a different aladdin before that). My fave buffet of all time there was at the Boardwalk when it was a Holiday Inn - a 24 hour place that had great food and good prices. Some really blow though - I won't eat at the Circus Circus buffet again, I don't know what those people are thinking.

Our secret weapon is each other. Mrs. Tractorlegs and I have kept each other on the straight-and-narrow since we joined Weight Watchers last January, and we're seeing a combined weight loss of about 80 pounds now. We'll be good. And I'm definitely considering TrojanHorse's suggestion to bring the bike. Our Timeshare is the Jockey Club so it is quite possible to park the car for an entire week and walk to all the fun spots, so we always do a lot of walking, so that'll help.
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Writing in my capacity as the newly appointed Person Who Makes People Leave the Clyde Forum, I think you have overstated the possible weight gain from a week in Vegas. Enjoy yourself. Anything you gain should disappear in the next week or two as you return to normal eating and activities.
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7 days? If you gain anywhere near 20 pounds, 15 of that will be excess water weight from the extra sodium in the food which will slowly disappear over the following week.
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7 days? If you gain anywhere near 20 pounds, 15 of that will be excess water weight from the extra sodium in the food which will slowly disappear over the following week.
And wouldn't that much sodium kill him anyway?
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......We love the buffet in the basement at Planet Holywood (used to be Aladdin, and used to be a different aladdin before that). My fave buffet of all time there was at the Boardwalk when it was a Holiday Inn - a 24 hour place that had great food and good prices. Some really blow though - I won't eat at the Circus Circus buffet again, I don't know what those people are thinking......
You bring back a lot of fond memories of when my wife and I use to stay at the old, old Aladdin and eat at the Boardwalk and get gas at the gas station that was ther, which was probably the last gas station on the strip proper. I also agree with you about Circus Circus and maybe they should have blown it up before the Sands and Dunes. Thank you for the fond reminders of some of my favorite days.
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Hahahahaha!! I've been following that thread. Congratularions on your new position of infamy!!
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I think you have overstated the possible weight gain from a week in Vegas. Enjoy yourself. Anything you gain should disappear in the next week or two as you return to normal eating and activities.
I was exaggerating on the 20lbs+ (of course) but you're right, the effects of a single week won't make a difference in the long run. Mrs. Trac and myself are very proud of our health accomplishments this year and realize a week on vacation will only be a blip in the long run.
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Thanks everyone. I have now "Girded my Loins" (so to speak) and am ready for the battle!
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You bring back a lot of fond memories of when my wife and I use to stay at the old, old Aladdin and eat at the Boardwalk and get gas at the gas station that was ther, which was probably the last gas station on the strip proper. I also agree with you about Circus Circus and maybe they should have blown it up before the Sands and Dunes. Thank you for the fond reminders of some of my favorite days.
Oh Yeah, that's right in our neighborhood - our TS is across the street at the Jockey Club. We're from the same Hood!
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And wouldn't that much sodium kill him anyway?
Not necessarily. The body can fluctuate up to 5% in weight per day based on water retention. A 300 pound person on a low sodium diet can easily gain 15 pounds in a single day by suddenly eating salty foods and drinking lots of liquids.

On the opposite side of the spectrum, I've lost 5 pounds of sweat in a single hour-long spin session before.
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Not necessarily. The body can fluctuate up to 5% in weight per day based on water retention. A 300 pound person on a low sodium diet can easily gain 15 pounds in a single day by suddenly eating salty foods and drinking lots of liquids.

On the opposite side of the spectrum, I've lost 5 pounds of sweat in a single hour-long spin session before.
I should have recalled that I'd been there too. As someone who weighed himself before and after workouts at the gym, I'd swung 4 to 5 pounds.
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I spent last weekend in Boston. Left the car at the hotel and walked. I knew ahead of time that I'd be drinking and eating far more than normal. During the morning and mid-day I ate pretty much what I wanted. (filet mignon eggs benedict! WOW was it good) Visitied a LOT of pubs! Dinner was the time to have a healthy meal.

I totally enjoyed myself and only felt slightly guilty. Won't know the impact until I get home tonight but whatever... it'll work out. Or at least I will when I finally get back on the bike after 2 looong weeks off...
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I'll try, but if I come back with a mysterious 20 to 25 pound weight gain, I will need your sympathy and help! Anyone with any proven strategies against this attack, speak now! Help!!
You won't get any sympathy from me unless you can provide irrefutable proof that someone (other than yourself) forced you to gorge yourself.

A foolproof strategy is to make choices that coincide with your objective. If your objective is to gorge yourself day after day, go to the buffets and load up. If you objective is to do the opposite, do the opposite.
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I'll try, friends, I'll try, but if I come back with a mysterious 20 to 25 pound weight gain, I will need your sympathy and help! Anyone with any proven strategies against this attack, speak now! Help!!
Ok, so some thoughts:

1) Unless you suffer from a diagnosed condition then there's no such thing as a mysterious weight gain. It's all a matter of what goes in to you, what comes out, and how much energy you expend.
2) That being said - if you come back 20 pounds heaver and you are SURE that you didn't eat 70,000 calories over your maintenance number then there's a good chance you're carrying extra water. DO NOT PANIC. Water will take care of itself.
3) Practice what my diet calls "environmental control". Don't go to places that you know will cause you problems.
4) Make the best choices you can. Salad, dressing on the side. Steamed veggies. Lean proteins. You know the drill.
5) Booze has a lot of calories.

It's all a choice. No one is going to be force feeding you. Yes, you're not in the most supportive place in the world but it can be survived with minimal damage. Personally I avoid Vegas. The last conference I was at there (BlackHat) ended at something like 5pm on Thursday and by 9pm I was in Palm Springs.
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You won't get any sympathy from me unless you can provide irrefutable proof that someone (other than yourself) forced you to gorge yourself.
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I should have recalled that I'd been there too. As someone who weighed himself before and after workouts at the gym, I'd swung 4 to 5 pounds.
I routinely gain/lose 4 or 5 pounds. When I wake up in the morning I always weigh between 3 and 5 pounds less than when I go to bed. Then I gain steadily throughout the day and do it again. Also, I used to lose 3+ pounds with every bike ride, but a friend suggested that I hydrate better during the ride - and it stopped. But I don't think there's really going to be a 20 or 25 pound weight gain - just a challenge to my disciplines. I like JakiChan's suggestions.
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You won't get any sympathy from me unless you can provide irrefutable proof that someone (other than yourself) forced you to gorge yourself.
ive been forced to those buffets. yea my friend had a gun pointed at my head, it tasted like bacon.
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sew your lips shut, and wire your jaw, and drink protein shakes exclusively.
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The buffet is like a hawaiian Luau - you gotta do it once. After that there is no reason to go. Spend all your money at Auriole. Stay away from Casinos. Stay away from sugary creamy drinks - Drink scotch neat.
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OK!! The lovely Missus and I sat and made a plan. And we're pretty good at keeping plans when we both make them together so one of us can't be accused of being "the horrible person that broke the plan". There's power in that kind of accountability, folks!

The plan:
--One meal (all you can eat) at the basement buffet at Planet Hollywood Hotel
--One breakfast at Blueberry Hill, where the portions are so large you can hide a planet in the pancakes. We're gonna order one omelet and an extra plate.
--All other eating out will be done at Subway restaurants because they are in every casino and we have the points values memorized for their entire menu already.
--All other food consumption will be in the Timeshare room because they have fully equipped kitchens and we promise to eat just before we shop.

Hammer Down!! Remember, Ride Free!!
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