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Tour de Palm Springs - 2013 - Clydesdales and Athenas

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And with that, PhotoJoanne is out. She HATES the wind.
i despise wind too...
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Yes, I did the tour de Palm Springs, it was an excellent experience. I went with my club and got dropped in the beginning because of the horrible sandstorm and hill, all the climbing was in first leg. Going downhill was a blast because the wind was pushing you faster, actually averaged 34 mph on a 5 mile segment. I lost my group at mile 5 but eventually caught up with them because big people do well down hill, found them at about mile 60 and we drafted each other to the end. My Garmin link below.

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Maybe I got this confused with the Tour de Palm Desert that is coming up....is that one flat?
It's actually pretty flat. The climb up toward 29 Palms near the beginning slows down 80% of the riders. Check out Jeep's profile , the hill is toward the beginning. At mile 40 -50, Dillon rd is one roller after another. Many riders fade here too.

IMO, the ride is boring after the 50 mile point. Very flat! I mean 500 feet in 40 miles? A couple of small short 1/4 inclines.

And no, this ride does not sell out. I've done it about 4 times and every time I registered the morning of. It says a $10 fee after Feb 1st on the site but everytime I have registered at the ride, they waved the fee.


It gets so crowded that riders can't even get through the road at the first rest stop and maybe the second. I've alwys wanted Gina to do this ride so I guess we are in unless it rains.

I always register the morning of on this ride, not willing to pay then cancel with rain. Rather bet the $10.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz
It's actually pretty flat. The climb up toward 29 Palms near the beginning slows down 80% of the riders. Check out Jeep's profile , the hill is toward the beginning. At mile 40 -50, Dillon rd is one roller after another. Many riders fade here too.

IMO, the ride is boring after the 50 mile point. Very flat! I mean 500 feet in 40 miles? A couple of small short 1/4 inclines.

And no, this ride does not sell out. I've done it about 4 times and every time I registered the morning of. It says a $10 fee after Feb 1st on the site but everytime I have registered at the ride, they waved the fee.
I'm more worried about wind. I'm doing this in part because my Uncle suggested it. I can stay with him on the cheap. Some in my club are planning on the Solvang century in March but cost was issue for me in addition to some other considerations.

Im working on my climbing tho
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Originally Posted by Beachgrad05
I'm more worried about wind. I'm doing this in part because my Uncle suggested it. I can stay with him on the cheap. Some in my club are planning on the Solvang century in March but cost was issue for me in addition to some other considerations.

Im working on my climbing tho
It's never been windy on me. I hear storied but the times I did it, guess I was lucky.

You don't need to work on your climbing for this ride. The first hill is like 30% effort of the first mile of GMR. The hills in the last section of the ride are like 10% effort of GMR. But if you do ride GMR to the shack a couple of times, you''ll do great!
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It's never been windy on me. I hear storied but the times I did it, guess I was lucky.

You don't need to work on your climbing for this ride. The first hill is like 30% effort of the first mile of GMR. The hills in the last section of the ride are like 10% effort of GMR. But if you do ride GMR to the shack a couple of times, you''ll do great!
meant working on my climbing for other rides I hope to do....not specifically this one....I aspire to conquering much more difficult rides....including at some point the AIDS ride
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meant working on my climbing for other rides I hope to do....not specifically this one....I aspire to conquering much more difficult rides....including at some point the AIDS ride
Well then get with it Lady!
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Well then get with it Lady!
i am! See you Sunday! Ha ha.
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Originally Posted by Beachgrad05
I'm more worried about wind. I'm doing this in part because my Uncle suggested it. I can stay with him on the cheap. Some in my club are planning on the Solvang century in March but cost was issue for me in addition to some other considerations.

Im working on my climbing tho
Here's the deal with the wind and maybe why Beanz has never experience it... it comes up in the afternoon. If you start early (around 7) and can do a sub 6 hr century, you probably won't notice the wind much. If you are still out there around 2 - 5p, you will feel it.

I don't want to scare anyone away saying there are hills... but hills are relative to folks. For someone like Beanz who does GMZ as a giggle, climbs are no problem. To people doing their first century and struggling with distance, elements and just the head trip of trying to finish, every grind is a problem. Most of the hills are slight elevation gains, long and grindy, nothing short and steep. Basically the first part of the ride you climb a bit and then there is a long, absolutely glorious downhill for miles - when you are a Clyde, this downhill is built for you! And then for awhile, you are in the desert and the route is flat (and like Beanz says, alittle boring). Eventually you have to climb back out of the desert and there are a series of long grinds. Again they start around 80 miles so may seem like they are tougher than normal.

This is a fun century. If you do some training and have it in your head, you are just going out to enjoy the experience without trying to worry about time and performance, you will get through it no problems. I think some people fail their first century because they have some expectation of how they should perform and when it doesn't turn out that way, they start defeating themselves. Every tough ride is 20% effort, 20% training and 60% mental. You just have to know at some point the ride will get tough. Get past that moment and keep going.

For your training, work on distance, work on consistancy, work on nutrition. Nutrition is probably the key more than anything. 2 weeks before the century you should be able to complete a metric (62 miles) without too much struggle. After that tamper off and keep to short, but intense rides and nothing at least 3 days before the Event. Just eat right and get excited. It's that excitment that will get you through the ride. There is something really cool about completing a century... most people are amaze cyclists can do 100+ miles on a bike and you can join that club.

After you finish that ride, plan on doing the Cool Breeze in August. From Ventura to Goleta and back. Beautiful ride. My favorite!

PS good move on passing on Solvang... lots of climbs and tough winds. It's a difficult ride especially a first century.
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Originally Posted by Pamestique
Here's the deal with the wind and maybe why Beanz has never experience it... it comes up in the afternoon. If you start early (around 7) and can do a sub 6 hr century, you probably won't notice the wind much. If you are still out there around 2 - 5p, you will feel it.

I don't want to scare anyone away saying there are hills... but hills are relative to folks. For someone like Beanz who does GMZ as a giggle, climbs are no problem. To people doing their first century and struggling with distance, elements and just the head trip of trying to finish, every grind is a problem. Most of the hills are slight elevation gains, long and grindy, nothing short and steep. Basically the first part of the ride you climb a bit and then there is a long, absolutely glorious downhill for miles - when you are a Clyde, this downhill is built for you! And then for awhile, you are in the desert and the route is flat (and like Beanz says, alittle boring). Eventually you have to climb back out of the desert and there are a series of long grinds. Again they start around 80 miles so may seem like they are tougher than normal.

This is a fun century. If you do some training and have it in your head, you are just going out to enjoy the experience without trying to worry about time and performance, you will get through it no problems. I think some people fail their first century because they have some expectation of how they should perform and when it doesn't turn out that way, they start defeating themselves. Every tough ride is 20% effort, 20% training and 60% mental. You just have to know at some point the ride will get tough. Get past that moment and keep going.

For your training, work on distance, work on consistancy, work on nutrition. Nutrition is probably the key more than anything. 2 weeks before the century you should be able to complete a metric (62 miles) without too much struggle. After that tamper off and keep to short, but intense rides and nothing at least 3 days before the Event. Just eat right and get excited. It's that excitment that will get you through the ride. There is something really cool about completing a century... most people are amaze cyclists can do 100+ miles on a bike and you can join that club.

After you finish that ride, plan on doing the Cool Breeze in August. From Ventura to Goleta and back. Beautiful ride. My favorite!

PS good move on passing on Solvang... lots of climbs and tough winds. It's a difficult ride especially a first century.
Again, thank you for the advice! Nutrition is a component I neglected prior to my solo metric this past Saturday and I paid for it. It was not related to my ability as the next day I felt great, not fatigued or sore....so I learned a valuable lesson about doing better with pre-ride nutrition and how to eat the days leading up to a long ride.

Doing the MS ride next weekend and am going to try to go beyond the 50 miles I initially intended for the first day...Don't think I can make 100 but I am going to try to get to 75 and if I don't make it ... oh well... I have 50 to ride on day 2.

I hope to to the Cool Breeze next year. Couldn't do it this year due to other things going on that prevented me from signing up (had a concert my husband got us tickets for in April on that day).
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I've done this century a couple times. Once with my son when he was 9yrs old (he had no problem doing it). I didn't experience any wind issues on any of those rides. It is the desert though and when the wind blows there is nowhere to hide. You have to remember though, while a head wind can be hard a tail wind can be a godsend. It can be good or bad. Last weekend I did the Furnace Creek 508 which goes though the Mojavi desert and there was maybe 10mph winds. In the past I've experienced winds that ripped bikes and a roof rack off of the top of our support car. You never know what you'll get. I guess what I'm trying to say is you can't plan your life around what the weather is doing. Certianly you're not going to want to ride in high winds but you really won't know what the weather will be like until a couple days before the event. Don't live your life around the weather.


Since Beanz and Gina are thinking of going maybe I'll come down and do it too. It's been too long since we've had a chance to ride together. It'd be fun to ride and meet some of the other "names" on here too. hmmm, maybe I'll bring the tandem!!!

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Originally Posted by Beachgrad05
Again, thank you for the advice! Nutrition is a component I neglected prior to my solo metric this past Saturday and I paid for it. It was not related to my ability as the next day I felt great, not fatigued or sore....so I learned a valuable lesson about doing better with pre-ride nutrition and how to eat the days leading up to a long ride.

I hope to to the Cool Breeze next year. Couldn't do it this year due to other things going on that prevented me from signing up (had a concert my husband got us tickets for in April on that day).
Cool Breeze is in AUGUST if that makes any difference. I don't believe sign up are open yet.

Also back to nutrition - I really mean during the ride not before or after. It will make or break you. You have to remember to fuel your body throughout the ride - every sag stop take in some food - an orange slice, a handful of pretzels, half a banana and then use Gatorade, GU, Beans, ShokBloc whatever as you are riding. This is the key component that took me a number of years to master. LAstly and I am done... sag stops - they are ncessary but remember to get in and out as quick as possible... no more than 5 minutes tops in order to prevent cool down of your legs...
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LAstly and I am done...
Don't stop. I know I for one will take all the advice I can get. I haven't done a century since high school.
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Don't stop. I know I for one will take all the advice I can get. I haven't done a century since high school.
+10000000 I can also take all the advice I can get.
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Don't stop. I know I for one will take all the advice I can get. I haven't done a century since high school.
Be sure and build up to it, 45 years is a long time.
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Be sure and build up to it, 45 years is a long time.
You're using that "new" math again, Beanz.

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Son of a biscuit! Thanks A.

OK, well I'm in on this thread too. I'll sign up for the ride when I get my supercomputer fired up this weekend - I hate doing stuff like that on my dinkytop.

I swear I used the high tech "search" engine on this forum and came up blank. I blame photojoe.
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Mwuhahahahahahaah! Got another sucker to fall victim to the "search" button! TH - don't tell anyone, but all that button does is give us mods unlimited access to the webcam built into your computer!
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My wife and I will be doing this on the tandem. I'll try to negotiate for the Century since as 100 mile rides go this is pretty easy, wind excepted of course. Last year's winds were freaky bad. The good news is that once you're down in the valley proper the winds abate, you just have to suck it up on the west-bound leg. The only actual climb is in the beginning and it's very gentle; makes for a good first century. Finally, we found a restaurant that has great seafood.

big rides like this are not for everyone. Parts of the course can get very crowded and we've tended to start 1/2 mile or so in front of the mass and a bit early. We get passed on the gradually climb, but pass tons of riders on the downslope when they are not blocking the entire road (did I say crowded?). The last stretch has tons of stoplights which is annoying when you're cramping at the end of a Century. This is not like El Tour de Tuscon where there is a great deal of traffic control, so be prepared for a fair amount of stopping in the last 15 - 20 miles (est.). All-in-all a good getaway.
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the wife and I are in. I am looking for hotels now. will come make a weekend out of it. Hope all you so cal folks will come, I would love to put faces with forum names.

Got our hotel and all...be down friday and leave sunday.

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I just signed up... all 4 of us. The wife and kids will be enjoying the 25 mile route. They chose that over the 15 mile route because it has two sag stops and more cookies. Priorities!

We'll be making a 3 day weekend out of it.
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Just about a month away from this ride.
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Yep, and I haven't ridden as much as I wanted to because of a stupid cold.

I ended up getting a room at the Courtyard Marriott about a mile away, so I'll just ride to the start in the AM. The wife and kids can mosey over for their crack of dawn 10:30 start whenever they're up.
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Just adding as a side note because of current news... the last PS Century I did Huell Howser was there and I got to meet him. I didnt realize until his passing he lived out in 29 Palms. Gracious sweet man, very generous with his time. Kindof a bittersweet memory now for me...
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