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Old 10-25-12, 06:10 PM
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Wheel Help

Okay another spoke popped today. I'm not going to keep messing around with this stock rear wheel, so I am trying to put together a wheel that is less than I paid for the bike No thought to speed, weight or looks

I've got a 7 spd
the drop out distance is 133mm (assuming a qr135)
It looks like the hub is the major decision. if I go 40h then its limited to the phil wood at 36h I could get some cheaper shimano's

Beanz usually has advice for this, am I messing up?

at pro wheel builder i get something along these lines
Drillings
40
Rim
VELOCITY CHUKKER MSW 700C BLACK REAR RIM $63.00
700c/29er
Velocity Velo Plugs for 1 wheel + $7.50
Hub
PHIL WOOD POLISHED MULTI GEARED FREE WHEEL REAR HUB $137.00
QR 135mm 8 Speed
Freewheel
*No Bearing Upgrade
Spokes
DT SWISS CHAMPION 14 GAUGE SILVER SPOKES $0.72
Lacing Pattern
Four Cross
Nipples
DT SWISS BLACK 14G 12MM BRASS NIPPLE $0.20
Weight
1346.2 grams
Price
$244.30
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Have you checked to see if your LBS would build you a new wheel around the existing Hub? Then you are @60 bucks for a deep v or chucker (I run the deep v 36 hole at 310lbs with no issue) 25-30 bucks for DT or wheelsmith straight spokes and 30-40 for the build
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Your weight helps decide the rim that can be used wisely.

Your stock hub info helps too. If a 32 and weight is right you can use it if a decent hub at my weight, if 36, good for bigger guy.

260 lbers like me can easily go 32 spoke Deep V


Sounds like a good wheel but if you aren't 300 plus, you might not need a 40 spoke wheel of the Chukker.

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Originally Posted by Fangowolf
Okay another spoke popped today. I'm not going to keep messing around with this stock rear wheel, so I am trying to put together a wheel that is less than I paid for the bike No thought to speed, weight or looks

I've got a 7 spd
the drop out distance is 133mm (assuming a qr135)
It looks like the hub is the major decision. if I go 40h then its limited to the phil wood at 36h I could get some cheaper shimano's

Beanz usually has advice for this, am I messing up?

at pro wheel builder i get something along these lines
Drillings
40
Rim
VELOCITY CHUKKER MSW 700C BLACK REAR RIM $63.00
700c/29er
Velocity Velo Plugs for 1 wheel + $7.50
Hub
PHIL WOOD POLISHED MULTI GEARED FREE WHEEL REAR HUB $137.00
With a deep rim you don't need 40 holes. 36 will be fine and opens up more hub options.

You'll be less likely to bend or break an axle and have a stronger hub with more gearing options (especially if you move to 8 speeds or beyond with a new bike) if you use a freehub instead of a freewheel hub.

To save money without compromising durability you could do this with a Shimano hub.

DT SWISS CHAMPION 14 GAUGE SILVER SPOKES $0.72
There's no reason to use straight gauge spokes. The rim can deflect more with butted spokes before they go slack. 14/15 gauge DT Competition spokes drive-side, and 2.0/1.5 Revolution non-drive side might be a fine idea.
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Originally Posted by Drew Eckhardt
There's no reason to use straight gauge spokes. The rim can deflect more with butted spokes before they go slack. 14/15 gauge DT Competition spokes drive-side, and 2.0/1.5 Revolution non-drive side might be a fine idea.
Either way I doubt he loses. I built my wheels with straight gauge and had no problems with 20,000+ miles. Till the brake surface wore out, spokes were still doing great.
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327lbs the stock wheels are giant double wall allloy 36 spoke
Forgot this is for a hybrid 700x38 tire running 85psi

The spoke were the only recommended under DT Swiss, there are some recommended under PWB

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Being a "thrifty" person, I also have to ask, have you checked to see if the shop can get giant to warranty the wheel? If you can then have them re-tension it when it comes in and you should be good for a while. I road my stock 20/24 hole wheels for over two yrs before replacing because I started breaking spokes
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Originally Posted by ahultin
Being a "thrifty" person, I also have to ask, have you checked to see if the shop can get giant to warranty the wheel? If you can then have them re-tension it when it comes in and you should be good for a while. I road my stock 20/24 hole wheels for over two yrs before replacing because I started breaking spokes
They re-tensioned it last week for the last broken spoke
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If it were me, I'd go with the whole new wheel. Giant stock alloy can't be of too good a quality that will be dependable for to long, even if it were a free replacement.

But be sure the chukker accepts the 700X38 tire.
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Got the build going. Good thing I called though it appears its a qr130, somehow 133mm between the dropouts means 130. the rim is 24mm wide and he said a 38 would be no problem.
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