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Axiom 11-01-12 11:29 AM

Need a headlight?
 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82021216-L031A

220 Lumen flashlight with a bicycle mount from Newegg for $17.

10 Wheels 11-01-12 11:31 AM

Not bright enought for most riders.

jsigone 11-01-12 12:27 PM

it might last 60 mins on high running AAA.

Days of using flashlights are done IMO, the bike market caught up and there are plenty of lower cost options for riders and LED lights.

http://www.bikebling.com/Lezyne-Micr...crod-front.htm
http://www.bikebling.com/Lezyne-Powe...rdrive-led.htm

http://www.bikebling.com/NiteRider-M...rider-5049.htm
http://www.bikebling.com/NiteRider-L...rider-6587.htm

http://www.bikebling.com/Cygolite-Ex...pilion-350.htm
http://www.bikebling.com/Cygolite-Me...-300-combo.htm

cyccommute 11-01-12 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by jsigone (Post 14903369)

Even those "low cost" lights are behind the time in terms of dollars/lumens. I have 3 of these which are about 3 times brighter than the Cygolite for half the price.

Mr. Beanz 11-01-12 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by cyccommute (Post 14903550)
Even those "low cost" lights are behind the time in terms of dollars/lumens. I have 3 of these which are about 3 times brighter than the Cygolite for half the price.

I see a headlight with a plug, how do you power them on?

PhotoJoe 11-01-12 01:34 PM

If you look down a ways, it shows the whole kit, including battery. The Cree XML T6 LED is THE light to have right now. Great output and best bang for the buck, IMHO. LOVE our Magicshines.

Mr. Beanz 11-01-12 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by PhotoJoe (Post 14903571)
If you look down a ways, it shows the whole kit, including battery. The Cree XML T6 LED is THE light to have right now. Great output and best bang for the buck, IMHO. LOVE our Magicshines.

I see, I thought they were more ads. :D

jsigone 11-01-12 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by PhotoJoe (Post 14903571)
If you look down a ways, it shows the whole kit, including battery. The Cree XML T6 LED is THE light to have right now. Great output and best bang for the buck, IMHO. LOVE our Magicshines.

yah bang for dollar this would be hard to beat
http://www.amazon.com/Lumen-Bicycle-...ef=pd_sim_sg_7

PhotoJoe 11-01-12 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by jsigone (Post 14903674)
yah bang for dollar this would be hard to beat
http://www.amazon.com/Lumen-Bicycle-...ef=pd_sim_sg_7

I agree, but I had read enough reviews on knock-offs (not necessarily the one you posted, but many of them in general) that the batteries were great for about a month, then wouldn't hold a charge. Maybe they are just using cheap 18650's. However, I read enough similar complaints that I decided to go with the name brand. I thought it would be cheaper to spend the $79.95 and increase my odds of being happy, considering we use them 4-5 mornings a week and have no plans of stopping riding through "winter" as we call it in SoCal. So far, so good. I guess I feel like I just paid extra for an insurance policy.

cyccommute 11-01-12 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by PhotoJoe (Post 14903571)
If you look down a ways, it shows the whole kit, including battery. The Cree XML T6 LED is THE light to have right now. Great output and best bang for the buck, IMHO. LOVE our Magicshines.

The lights I linked to have a narrower beam than Magicshines. It puts a whole lot of light in a tiny space. Some people like that and some don't.

As for the batteries, I've got 3 of these lights that I've been using since mid-August. No issue with the batteries as of yet. I do, however, look on batteries as being a consumable...like a chain or brake pads...they will eventually fail. At $40 a pop, that's less than the cost of most Li-ion battery packs. And there is nothing wrong with the light.

volosong 11-01-12 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by jsigone (Post 14903369)

I've really gotten good use out of my NiteRider MiNewt 600. It's really bright, even in daytime on strobe mode. But ... they have a really crappy handlebar mount. It's nice to see that the Lumina 650 has a different style mount. "Anything" is better than the MiNewt mount. Looks like I'll be getting a Lumina 650 some day soon.

PhotoJoe 11-01-12 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by cyccommute (Post 14903831)
The lights I linked to have a narrower beam than Magicshines. It puts a whole lot of light in a tiny space. Some people like that and some don't.

As for the batteries, I've got 3 of these lights that I've been using since mid-August. No issue with the batteries as of yet. I do, however, look on batteries as being a consumable...like a chain or brake pads...they will eventually fail. At $40 a pop, that's less than the cost of most Li-ion battery packs. And there is nothing wrong with the light.

Great input for anyone weighing the choices.

jsigone 11-01-12 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by volosong (Post 14903863)
I've really gotten good use out of my NiteRider MiNewt 600. It's really bright, even in daytime on strobe mode. But ... they have a really crappy handlebar mount. It's nice to see that the Lumina 650 has a different style mount. "Anything" is better than the MiNewt mount. Looks like I'll be getting a Lumina 650 some day soon.

Agree the mount for the Minewt 600 is horrible for OS bars. The Lumina mount is a TON better, I picked one up couple weeks ago for my Minewt and was worth the little $$. The Lumina 650 is a bluish tint so I don't think its brighter then the 600 it replaced, though it seems about 1/2" shorter.

http://www.jensonusa.com/!jvBvdpHLtM...FY6DQgodWgIAqg

volosong 11-01-12 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by jsigone (Post 14904050)
Agree the mount for the Minewt 600 is horrible for OS bars. The Lumina mount is a TON better, I picked one up couple weeks ago for my Minewt and was worth the little $$. The Lumina 650 is a bluish tint so I don't think its brighter then the 600 it replaced, though it seems about 1/2" shorter.

http://www.jensonusa.com/!jvBvdpHLtM...FY6DQgodWgIAqg

I saw that mount on Amazon an hour ago when I was looking for something else. Yes, it did say it will work with the MiNewt. Amazon has the same price as Jenson. I won't purchase from Jenson. Earlier this year, I ordered and paid for an Ultegra crankset. Two months later and multiple brush-offs, I cancelled the order. They said they were out and couldn't get any. Other people can. Why couldn't Jenson?

Mark Stone 11-01-12 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by volosong (Post 14903863)
I've really gotten good use out of my NiteRider MiNewt 600. It's really bright, even in daytime on strobe mode. But ... they have a really crappy handlebar mount. It's nice to see that the Lumina 650 has a different style mount. "Anything" is better than the MiNewt mount. Looks like I'll be getting a Lumina 650 some day soon.

When you get it report back to us - the MiNewt 600 Cordless was very very high quality, so let us know your impressions of its successor! Hope it's as good

Mark Stone 11-01-12 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz (Post 14903566)
I see a headlight with a plug, how do you power them on?

Extension cord?

jsigone 11-01-12 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by tractorlegs (Post 14904212)
When you get it report back to us - the MiNewt 600 Cordless was very very high quality, so let us know your impressions of its successor! Hope it's as good


I thought i was talking about the cordless....forgot there was that battery pack version..sorry

chefisaac 11-01-12 10:41 PM

220 lumens, if used for riding, is not enough.

Axiom 11-01-12 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by chefisaac (Post 14905190)
220 lumens, if used for riding, is not enough.

I use a 200 lumen Light & Motion Urban 200 and it's almost perfect. I am returning to my LBS because it's not holding charge well. I ordered the Niterider Lumina 500 for $88. I could have gotten the Magicshine 1100 lumen light but I don't want to blind people on the MUP. A 220 lumen light for $17 is a great deal. Why spend $30 on a cheap 40 lumen bontrager light at a bikeshop when you can buy this.

chefisaac 11-02-12 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by Axiom (Post 14905195)
I use a 200 lumen Light & Motion Urban 200 and it's almost perfect. I am returning to my LBS because it's not holding charge well. I ordered the Niterider Lumina 500 for $88. I could have gotten the Magicshine 1100 lumen light but I don't want to blind people on the MUP. A 220 lumen light for $17 is a great deal. Why spend $30 on a cheap 40 lumen bontrager light at a bikeshop when you can buy this.

200 lumens is not really 200 lumens. If you go over to the commuting thread, look for responses by Colleen. She does lumen tests and there is no standard for lumens. So a light that says 200 lumens can be 100-150 lumens. The magic shine is about 1000 lumens.

You will not blind people at all. When I see people on the path, a quick change to a lower setting does the trick. Takes 10 seconds to do so and also provides me to be able to see more clearly if I feel like going off the path and into areas I do not know.

Mark Stone 11-02-12 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by chefisaac (Post 14905190)
220 lumens, if used for riding, is not enough.

That might be kind of relative. If you haven't used lights, or you're used to older/dimmer lighting, 220 is very bright. I remember my first Dinotte headlight, one of the AA models that was 200 lumens and it was very bright compared to what I had before. Seriously, I was impressed. But now that I use one of the NiteRider 1500 lumen monsters, that old 200 seems like nuthin'. Also, Axiom has a point also - a 220 would be great for the MUP, bright enough to see with while not burning out the retinas of oncoming cyclists/walkers. I think the question of brightness comes down to what you need the light for, and what you're used to. Really, for many people a 220 lumen light wouldn't be that bad.

In your bike use (commuting on your official Fred bike) however the 220 would for sure be too dim.

jboyd 11-02-12 09:50 AM

Lights for me are like Tattoos. As soon as I get a set-up, I think I need more :twitchy:

I currently run the Lumina 650 on the helmet and the Cygolite Mitycross 400 on the bars for a total of 1050 lumen. i think i need more:innocent::innocent:

I only ride dirt and gravel and to me with big lighting, the riding is safer than daylight as EVERYTHING lit up like crazy. And seriously, 220 lumen is not enough to see the zombie before it is too late. Just sayin ;)

chefisaac 11-02-12 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by jboyd (Post 14906314)
Lights for me are like Tattoos. As soon as I get a set-up, I think I need more :twitchy:

I currently run the Lumina 650 on the helmet and the Cygolite Mitycross 400 on the bars for a total of 1050 lumen. i think i need more:innocent::innocent:

I only ride dirt and gravel and to me with big lighting, the riding is safer than daylight as EVERYTHING lit up like crazy. And seriously, 220 lumen is not enough to see the zombie before it is too late. Just sayin ;)

I like your style!

chefisaac 11-02-12 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by tractorlegs (Post 14905582)
That might be kind of relative. If you haven't used lights, or you're used to older/dimmer lighting, 220 is very bright. I remember my first Dinotte headlight, one of the AA models that was 200 lumens and it was very bright compared to what I had before. Seriously, I was impressed. But now that I use one of the NiteRider 1500 lumen monsters, that old 200 seems like nuthin'. Also, Axiom has a point also - a 220 would be great for the MUP, bright enough to see with while not burning out the retinas of oncoming cyclists/walkers. I think the question of brightness comes down to what you need the light for, and what you're used to. Really, for many people a 220 lumen light wouldn't be that bad.

In your bike use (commuting on your official Fred bike) however the 220 would for sure be too dim.

You could be right however the faster you go or the more elements you ride in the more light you want.

A dull knife will cut vegetables but it is night and day when you use a SHARP knife!

Mark Stone 11-02-12 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by chefisaac (Post 14908136)
You could be right however the faster you go or the more elements you ride in the more light you want.

A dull knife will cut vegetables but it is night and day when you use a SHARP knife!

Absolutely correct my friend


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