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Weight Loss - A Control Test & A Question

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Weight Loss - A Control Test & A Question

Old 01-02-13, 02:00 PM
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Weight Loss - A Control Test & A Question

2 Men.
  • The first man is 200 pounds, the second man is 400 pounds. Both men are the same height, 5 foot 11 inches.
  • Each man has been overeating and decide to reduce their calorie intake to 2000 calories.
  • Each man has exactly the same diet.
  • Each man does the same amount of exercise (cycling).

All things are equal except their weight.

Question: Do they lose weight at the same rate or different rates?
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Old 01-02-13, 02:03 PM
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Is this a trick question? Different rates. Their metabolisms, including their BMR, will be different. Even if they were the same weight, they'd most likely be different.
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Originally Posted by CycleClips View Post

Question: Do they lose weight at the same rate or different rates?
Percentage or pounds?
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Old 01-02-13, 02:14 PM
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What time did they leave the stations, and how fast are they going?
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I would suspect they would lose weight at different rates.

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Different rates, because the larger person needs more calories to maintain his weight.
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Different rates. The 400 pounder would lose weight faster. Why? Every time he stands up and walks around, he's burning more calories, just moving his own weight. And when the heavy guy is "doing the same activities," he's again burning more calories, just hauling himself around.

But the REAL question is this: If a 200 pound guy and a 400 pound guy each decided to live like a 165 pound guy, eating what the 165 pounder eats and doing the same activities (say, riding a bike 15 miles/day), would each eventually weigh 165 pounds as well (assuming they're about the same height)?

YES!
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Old 01-02-13, 05:33 PM
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Definitely different.

But the 400lb guy will require less calories at 200lbs than the 200lb guy does now.
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Thanks, interestingly enough the fatter person burns more calories despite being in worse shape. His body needing more energy to function.

I thought it would be the other way round!
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Originally Posted by The_DK View Post
Definitely different.

But the 400lb guy will require less calories at 200lbs than the 200lb guy does now.

Yup. Bummer, eh?

I like Jethro's partial solution: Be inefficient. If you have to go to another room for something, get the one thing. Do a lot of trips. Check something outside. I try to make a point of getting up and down a lot. Much of our lives are spent not exercising. If we can squeeze some movement into those times it sure can't hurt.
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Originally Posted by goldfinch View Post
Yup. Bummer, eh?

I like Jethro's partial solution: Be inefficient. If you have to go to another room for something, get the one thing. Do a lot of trips. Check something outside. I try to make a point of getting up and down a lot. Much of our lives are spent not exercising. If we can squeeze some movement into those times it sure can't hurt.
This is just a way of fooling yourself ino believing you are exerising when you are not!
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Originally Posted by CycleClips View Post
This is just a way of fooling yourself ino believing you are exerising when you are not!
I would hope most adults would be a little more self-aware than that.
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Originally Posted by CycleClips View Post
This is just a way of fooling yourself ino believing you are exerising when you are not!
Why would you think that? I bike and lift weights which is exercise. But I also spend a lot of time sitting around. Adding some activity into the sitting around time can only be a good thing. Especially because there is research which indicates that people who lost weight may conserve energy by restricting movement when they are not exercising.
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What's the air speed of a fully laden swallow?
African or European?
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Originally Posted by CycleClips View Post
2 Men.
  • The first man is 200 pounds, the second man is 400 pounds. Both men are the same height, 5 foot 11 inches.
  • Each man has been overeating and decide to reduce their calorie intake to 2000 calories.
  • Each man has exactly the same diet.
  • Each man does the same amount of exercise (cycling).

All things are equal except their weight.

Question: Do they lose weight at the same rate or different rates?
Not only was the question a trick question, but so was the set up... Is the same amount of exercise (cycling) in miles or time? If it was in time, then the smaller guy would get in more miles and maybe more calories burnt, but if it just in distance the heavier guy gets more calories burnt.
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Originally Posted by Neil_B View Post
What's the air speed of a fully laden swallow?
What is the difference between a duck?
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Originally Posted by tractorlegs View Post
What is the difference between a duck?
Who said duck? I want to eat some now!
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Viaduct? Vy not a chicken?
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Craig, you dont post much, but when you do, you are darn funny!
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