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Old 01-20-13, 12:53 PM
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The B Group

This morning I went riding with Team Evesham which is a local club in my town. Only my third ride with them but they are wonderful people. They have a multi level ride every Sunday.... A, B+, B, and C. The last two weeks I rode with C and it was pretty good. Some of the leaders who lead the C ride are really fast for a C ride which fits me. Today though the leader was a bit slow but it was a lot of fun. I was thinking about starting with the B group but held back.

We had a killer tailwind for the first 15 miles and a few break aways. At the stop, I was feeling good. The only "issue" riding with the group is that like to stop half way in, even in winter. Its nice yes, but in the winter, I get cold and do not want to stop. Anyway, the A group already left and the B+ group left a few minutes after we got there. The B group was leaving so I decided what the he11, I will try my luck. It was only 17 more miles.

Immediately we were hit with the crappy headwind. (actually it was a head wind all 17 miles). I was up with the leader and two other guys. We had about 21 other B riders in that group (we had over 50 people show up for the ride). I was up with the front but after about 10 miles, the group separated but I was still with the leader and a few other riders. I did get pinched off which was fine so I tackled the headwind by myself. I thought the other B riders would have picked me up but they never came by so it was a nice ride solo on the rest of the way back.

It was cool going back with the B group. Strong riders. I was huffing and puffing to keep up but kept my own, especially in the wind.

I never thought I would have survived in the C group, let alone the B group. I know this was not the true test since wind played a big role in it but still it was cool. Plus I know each club's levels are different.
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Good for you! I'm still hoping just to keep up with some C groups, lol. But, I figure if you want to ride faster, you have to ride with the faster groups
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The best way to improve is to push yourself. Congrats. There's no shame in getting dropped, happens to everybody. The shame comes from quitting.
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Keep up the work it pays off. I started riding in 2007 and never though I would ever keep up with anyone in the club, I now lead the A group rides on occasion.
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Congrats Chef. You don't give yourself enough credit. I've seen you ride, you got it in you, just believe.
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I ride quite regularly with one of the top end shop ride out of Georgetown. Best shop and best mechs in town. It's a fast B ride -- average 17-19 depending on the route, and paceline sections as high as 30 mph. Most of them are 25-30 years old, and 150-170 lbs. I'm asthmatic, 42, and 205. I'm usually at the back.

But they are a great bunch of guys, they always wait at the choke points, and they are very, very supportive (high-5 at the top of a climb, etc.). And they stay with folks who have mechanicals or other issues.

It's made me a much, much stronger rider, and it's fun to chat with them and catch up. It also works out well because it's an early ride on Saturday mornings, and I'm home in time for lunch with the family. 8 miles to the shop to warm up, 30 miles riding hard, another 8-10 spinning home to recover.

Oh, and I like showing up on a handmade steel bike. They all know what it is and very much appreciate it. And I get comments about how fast I would be on 13 pounds of carbon.
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Thanks all. It was truly a lot of fun. I would be lying if I said I was not tired and a little spent. But I think commuting has helped me out a lot, especially with tackling the wind.

I am the heaviest B rider though. Sorta feel out of place but I guess it does not matter when we all are pedaling.
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It's nice to know you can keep up with the faster group for sure. It's a nice confidence builder. I can say, though, that the club I have been riding with has a "no drop" policy. Even if you can't keep up, someone will shepherd you home. I witnessed this yesterday when someone I had invited on the ride (a forum member here, no less! ) went straight when he should have turned and then didn't have enough juice to make it up the hills at the end, eventually pushing his bike up the hills towards the end of the ride.
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Originally Posted by photogravity
It's nice to know you can keep up with the faster group for sure. It's a nice confidence builder. I can say, though, that the club I have been riding with has a "no drop" policy. Even if you can't keep up, someone will shepherd you home. I witnessed this yesterday when someone I had invited on the ride (a forum member here, no less! ) went straight when he should have turned and then didn't have enough juice to make it up the hills at the end, eventually pushing his bike up the hills towards the end of the ride.
This is a good policy to have. A few clubs locally have those policies. Some follow them and a few do not. For that, I have Garmin GPS. Love it!
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[QUOTE=TrojanHorse;15178320]The best way to improve is to push yourself. Congrats. There's no shame in getting dropped, happens to everybody./QUOTE]

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Originally Posted by chefisaac
This is a good policy to have. A few clubs locally have those policies. Some follow them and a few do not. For that, I have Garmin GPS. Love it!
Yup, our group has both. GPS route available online, and a no-drop policy.

Oh, and they like the big guys. We make a very big hole in the wind for hanging out behind...
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good job stepping up the mental game and getting in the faster group. Riding in wind w/ a group is allot different then solo. Learn where to be, there are nice pockets in the group that big there shouldn't be a reason to stay in the head/cross wind too long, if so move around. Also as you ride with the group more, you'll know who has a good wheel to follow and who doesn't.
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They stop at the halfway point? Seriously?

Anyway, congrats on the ride. You did great.
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Originally Posted by CraigB
They stop at the halfway point? Seriously?

Anyway, congrats on the ride. You did great.
Yeah, all the groups do. I believe this group is more of a social group versus a hammer all the time group. Which is fine really.
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Originally Posted by CraigB
They stop at the halfway point? Seriously?

Anyway, congrats on the ride. You did great.
Craig.... how is WW's going for you? Have not heard anything from you in a while.
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Originally Posted by CraigB
They stop at the halfway point? Seriously?

Anyway, congrats on the ride. You did great.
Lots of groups do, I love doing a mid way stop its great. Stop at a little bakery, pastry, coffee good conversation, jump on bike and try to tear legs off everyone! My brother inlaw and I ride together a lot and once a month do a gentlemens ride, stop for lunch and a Guiness.
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It's awesome when you take that trepidatious step and it turns out to be less than you feared. Way to go. It's great hearing success stories in this forum.
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Originally Posted by youcoming
Lots of groups do, I love doing a mid way stop its great. Stop at a little bakery, pastry, coffee good conversation, jump on bike and try to tear legs off everyone! My brother inlaw and I ride together a lot and once a month do a gentlemens ride, stop for lunch and a Guiness.
Our groups do, too, but not usually on rides of less than 40 miles. Those are pretty much done as a single non-stop loop.
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Originally Posted by chefisaac
Craig.... how is WW's going for you? Have not heard anything from you in a while.
I'm struggling right now, Isaac. Super high stress at a job I hate is making me turn to food more (way more) than I should, plus having to put in a bunch of extra hours is interfering with workout time. I did twice-weekly spin classes, twice-weekly running and twice-weekly lifting through the last two winters and have done none of that this year. My last run was a 5K back in October, and my last WW meeting was about the same time, before Hilly Hundred. I've probably put on at least 15 pounds since then. But I'll get through it. I just need to find a more appropriate way to deal with the stress, and get back to regular exercise.
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Originally Posted by CraigB
I'm struggling right now, Isaac. Super high stress at a job I hate is making me turn to food more (way more) than I should, plus having to put in a bunch of extra hours is interfering with workout time. I did twice-weekly spin classes, twice-weekly running and twice-weekly lifting through the last two winters and have done none of that this year. My last run was a 5K back in October, and my last WW meeting was about the same time, before Hilly Hundred. I've probably put on at least 15 pounds since then. But I'll get through it. I just need to find a more appropriate way to deal with the stress, and get back to regular exercise.
Craig, if you need help at all, feel free to reach out through PM or an email.
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Chef, didn't you have a post earlier this year when you got dropped by a B group? If so nice job, if not, nice job!!
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Originally Posted by lenny866
Chef, didn't you have a post earlier this year when you got dropped by a B group?
Not for 2013 no. 2012 maybe but I think I was smart enough not to go with a B group in 2012 (or perhaps dumb enough to go lol)
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I hate stopping on shortish rides (30-45 mile range) unless condtions warrant a water stop or the ride in very hilly. Some people in my local club will lead 40 mile rides and stop for 45 min. for lunch. Some people cannot phathom how I can lead a 75 mile ride with only one scheduled stop and maybe a another quick water stop if it's hot and/or humid. A real gem is when people stand around chatting during a stop and then decide that they need to use the bathroom or get a drink when everyone else is ready to roll.

And the constant re-grouping. Oy! I went on a C ride on Sunday. A couple of people fall half a block behind and the leader stops to regroup at turns. I finally pointed out that they can see us turning so there's no reason to stop. Between the half way stop and the re-grouping, a 30 or so mile ride turns into a 3.5 hr. event.
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I hate stopping on shortish rides (30-45 mile range) unless condtions warrant a water stop or the ride in very hilly. Some people in my local club will lead 40 mile rides and stop for 45 min. for lunch. Some people cannot phathom how I can lead a 75 mile ride with only one scheduled stop and maybe a another quick water stop if it's hot and/or humid. A real gem is when people stand around chatting during a stop and then decide that they need to use the bathroom or get a drink when everyone else is ready to roll.

And the constant re-grouping. Oy! I went on a C ride on Sunday. A couple of people fall half a block behind and the leader stops to regroup at turns. I finally pointed out that they can see us turning so there's no reason to stop. Between the half way stop and the re-grouping, a 30 or so mile ride turns into a 3.5 hr. event.
Water stops when warrented I agree with. Lunch half way through... maybe if it is a social ride. In the winter, I want to keep moving... in the summer... I want to keep moving so I do not get too hot. Its a fine balance.

Regrouping.... thats why I like cue sheets or GPS files. Personally, I hate people waiting for me.
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I don't think there's anything wrong with a mid-way stop for a meal, if that's what the ride is designed for and advertised as such. Impromptu meal stops show, I think, poor planning. Or maybe just spontaneity if you want to put a positive spin on it.

Even so, most organized "meal" rides I've been on have been no shorter than 40-50 miles. Usually 20-25 miles out to a destination dining spot, then a return by either the same or a slightly different route.
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