JS1965

I just wanted others that were on the fence about going to a Velocity DEEP V to know-----> THEY ROCK

I really didnt believe that a wheel change would be something I could feel..I WAS WRONG

THE BIKE IS STIFF, there no lateral flex that I can feel and when I get out the saddle I dont have that squishy feeling going up hills

My local shop suggested them and built me DEEP V/32 SPOKE/105's ( I WEIGH 225lb)
I PAID $250 for the pair.

I had ALEX ALX/200's which I know are not the greatest wheels (came on my bike) but they lasted 2000 miles before developing a problem. The thing is that riding on the ALEX 200's vs the Deep V's is sooo different, I just cant believe how much better the bike feels

Just wanted to put that out

Sixty Fiver

The stiffness of the wheel has a great deal to do with the build quality... if you went from crap wheels to well built deep V's you will notice the improvement.

JS1965

I totally agree but honestly I dont think those ALEX 200's (20/24 SPOKE) were ever designed to be a clydesdale rim but I could be wrong.

They are IMHO an inexpensive wheel that alot of bike companies use as a standard off the shelf wheel

I had them trued (ALEX) and maintained by my shop since buying the bike which came with them but after 2K miles I took a hard hit on the road and developed a skip in the rear wheel and figured the DEEP V was a no brainer at my weight.

Sixty Fiver

The 20/24 Alex 200's are something I would not ride on at my weight of a buck fifty.

The Deep V was a good upgrade.

jazzgeek79

I weigh in at 310 and commute with about 15 lb loaded on a rear rack. My older Alex rims (don't remember the model) couldn't hack it. I was breaking a lot of spokes. I replaced my rear wheel with a 36h deep V with a tiagra hub. That was two years ago, and other than standard hub maintenance I've been worry free.

Mr. Beanz

Well you're about 7 or 8 years behind my preaching to this choir but we'll take it

Gina's bike came equipped with low spoke count Bontager Race lites. Once on a ride she damaged her front tire so I swapped my Deep V for her Bonti and ride her wheel home figuring I'd take a fall better than she could (the things we do for love.)

She sat on the bike and said Whoah! She said the wheel felt real strong compared to her front wheel and like she was sitting up well supported. Well later her rear wheel delveloped the well known Bonti cracks so I placed one of my rear wheels on it. A Dura Ace Deep V. First ride she got on and said Whoah!

What I asked. She said she could feel the stiffness and responsiveness of the wheel, far more than that of her previous wimpy wheel. She said she could tell this was a far better wheel and that it "rolls". I told her that it was funny because I have heard and read about so many clydes complaining that the wheel was too heavy and if she wanted, I could change the rim. She said no, she was impressed.

Now she' riding a Dura Ace/Deep V in the rear and a Dura Ace Fusion in the front (5 mm shallow vs the Deep V)

She likes 'em!

1nterceptor

I did it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFyXxrqWbPA

bassjones

2 years, trouble free. Deep V 36 spoke F/R, White Industries Hubs. Weight fluctuating between 350 and 380 (I'm working on it now...)

JS1965

U were one of the peeps (Mr. Beanz) that convinced me after reading your posts.
My bike store was preaching for a while, I finally listened

I am bringing my weight down to 200lbs by May/June
I workout with weights too and bring my weight up and down from 235 to 215 from winter to summer but since getting into bicycles I am now looking at staying at 180 to 200 and focusing on bicycles more and weight training will be more geared towards cycling and not bulking..


By the way this is what I looked like in 2010 and what I look like now 405lbs to 215lbs
Just a bit different, huh


I love cycling and wouldve never thought it could be so much fun

Mr. Beanz

Oh yeah! Nice job Dude!

tmeisky

I am also a convert. Rode the stock (awful) Bontrager wheels that came on my Madone for a bit and they never felt quite right. I switched to 36H Deep Vs, 105 Hubs, and DT swiss spokes. Also switched to Conti Ultra Gator Skins at the same time. It has been like a completely different bike for a very minimal cost. Totally the way to go.

bigfred 

Good job on the body transformation.

And yes, Deep V's are pretty good. I have a 36h laced to an Ultegra hub that feels great. Just so folks don't think Deep V's are the only option, there are other rims that are equally up to the task. I also have a set of DT Swiss 585 that I'm very happy with.

For clydes over about 225 or so, a decent V profile rim with 32 or 36 spokes (I know Beanz runs fewer) can't be beat for day in day out durable training, commuting and general riding.

If you're concerned about weight, keep in mind that I know a couple female racers that use the same combos for their training wheels.

JS1965

585's were not in the price range for me but I agree they are a great rim
I'm still a newbie (1yr on a bike) so I am crawling before walking

bigfred 

For me, with international freight and other concerns, the difference between a 105/Deep V build and an Ultegra/585 build were small enough to justify the wheels I "wanted" vs. the wheels that would "get the job done".

The 585s were/are a bit of an experiment. I wanted to see how they compare to the Deep V.

Mr. Beanz

Out of curiosity, why determins wheels I want and wheels that work?


I've heard some say DT are better quality but 20,000+ miles on a rim is pretty darn good so not like the Deep V is lacking.

Are the DT's prettier, more durable, the label in a better spot?


Big goddy label is not something that appeals to my eye, so I'm just wondering what makes this a "want" rim?





dt585 by gulpxtreme, on Flickr

FTR, I remove the labels.

JakiChan

I find myself skeptical about the DT Axis 4.0s that came with my Roubaix. I'm just looking for an excuse to get the Deep Vs.

iconicflux

I can attest to Velocity rims but I use Chukkar's instead of the Deep V. They're similar to the deep v but have 24mm external diameter instead of 20mm. I usually use them with 32's on them BUT they can work with a lot thinner tires too. I use a set of velocity dyads that I was going to sell as training rims now and I have Conti Hometrainer tires on it which are 25's. The profile with the Contis is AWESOME. It's almost like having a tubular on a clincher rim. Not sure how 25's would work out on the road but I aim to try it eventually--although NOT with my trainer tires.

adrien

well, I have a pair of deep v's on ultegra, 36 rear and 28 front that are my second pair, the first having been retired due to worn brake track at 13k miles, and a pair of dt r585 on king r45 hubs, 32 by 32.

gaudy graphics aside (and removed...), the DTs are much, much better balanced. With the bike in the stand, the rear wheel of the deep vs torque the bike when spinning, to the extent that the stand oscillates. It has been the same with both sets of deep vs, so it's not the build. The r585s spin very smoothly, with no movement of the stand.

Visually, the DTs appear built to a tighter standard, and my experience appears to bear this out.

so now the deep vs are back up and winter wheels, the r585 kings are summer / event wheels.

robble

What brand is that bike?

Antelope 70cm

I replaced the DT Axis 3.0 on my Roubaix with 36H Deep V/105 setup. No more side to side play. You won't regret it.

JakiChan

So how does one know if one needs 32 or 36 spoke?

adrien

Well, I went 28/36 on the advice of the builder I used at the time (spin lite). They said they would guarantee the wheel would never go out of true if a 36, and I weighed 245 at the time. I now weigh 208 or so...and was told 32 was plenty at my current weight.

I rebuilt the 36/28 deep vs that way because the hubs are still good and that is the drilling I had.

adrien

Btw, just ordered some ambrosio fcs28 for the fixed gear. Another rim to consider...

Mr. Beanz

I see, understandable. But honestly I have had wheels that spin smoother in the stand than others but never felt the difference. But I can see why some prefer the better balance.

Mr. Beanz

I'll take a closer look at the bike later on then get back with to you with an answer!