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Heel keeps hitting the gear protector/frame/water bottle/etc. - suggestions?

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Heel keeps hitting the gear protector/frame/water bottle/etc. - suggestions?

So perhaps this is a me being brainless issue, but on longer rides my feet like to "toe out" except I have cages and straps and therefore my feet naturally turn the heels in. While it isn't a huge issue, its annoying when I knock against the gear/chain protector, frame, water bottle, or whatever. I also notice that my feet want to (on the right side at least) also rub the crank arm. When I concentrate on a ride I can keep my heel clear but when I am on for a while it starts again. I wear a size 13 or 12 wide, FYI.

The other thing I notice is the top of my knee on the inside slightly will start hurting much earlier than anything else, and when I relax my legs and the heels hit, it feels like it lessens the pain.

This is only on my road bike, a 82 Schwinn Continental. What I am pondering, and feel free to chime in those with bigger feet, is get some of the thread adapters to position the pedals outward to allow my feet to sit more naturally.

So any info, tips, thoughts, or advice is needed. Plus if it makes sense to get adapters I might just get them and go clipless .
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I think you've got the right idea with pedal axle extenders. Early 80's roadbikes put riders into a narrow "Q-factor" riding position so we weren't pedalling like "ducks." But many big guys do pedal like ducks and need wider Q. But the factory chainline is what it is, so it's better to keep the chainline as-is and mess with just the pedal extension. That probably will help make you more comfortable. My right foot does that just a little bit too. Not enough to hit crank arm with my heel. I find if my seat is high enough, it minimizes my duck-footedness.
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Keywin pedals https://www.keywinpedals.com/ made in New Zealand come in different offsets and may be a good option if you go clipless. I have a size 12UK/13US foot and have a natural tendency to toe out. I just have my clipless cleats set up so that the limit of lateral movement doesn't allow my heel to touch the chainstays. I run Shimano SPD-SLs
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Size 16 and pedal extenders on all my bikes.
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I have a 50 shoe, and suggest you really watch your knees in relationship to your hips and feet. When I get tired I have a tendency to let me knees sag out, which throws my heels in. If I focus on my form, I keep my knees aligned with the feet and hips and make my legs like pistons. Problem solved.

My not work for you, but it may be work looking into.
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I would consider pedal extenders and Speedplay pedals if you ride clipless--the extenders to provide the clearance, and the pedals because they allow a certain amount of rotation that can make it easier on your knees.
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Originally Posted by vesteroid
I have a 50 shoe, and suggest you really watch your knees in relationship to your hips and feet. When I get tired I have a tendency to let me knees sag out, which throws my heels in. If I focus on my form, I keep my knees aligned with the feet and hips and make my legs like pistons. Problem solved.

My not work for you, but it may be work looking into.
I thought I needed extenders until I did this. I wear 49's.
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Originally Posted by vesteroid
I have a 50 shoe, and suggest you really watch your knees in relationship to your hips and feet. When I get tired I have a tendency to let me knees sag out, which throws my heels in. If I focus on my form, I keep my knees aligned with the feet and hips and make my legs like pistons. Problem solved.

My not work for you, but it may be work looking into.
Hmmm...I will have to stay on top of keeping an eye on this next time.
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Originally Posted by gyozadude
I think you've got the right idea with pedal axle extenders. Early 80's roadbikes put riders into a narrow "Q-factor" riding position so we weren't pedalling like "ducks." But many big guys do pedal like ducks and need wider Q. But the factory chainline is what it is, so it's better to keep the chainline as-is and mess with just the pedal extension. That probably will help make you more comfortable. My right foot does that just a little bit too. Not enough to hit crank arm with my heel. I find if my seat is high enough, it minimizes my duck-footedness.
I also found seat height to be crucial. My Left Foot flops like a wet noodle (spinal, dontcha know) and I can't strap- or clip-in, so I use BMX-style pedals with those evil screws to help keep my feet from moving (too much)... my shins aren't so happy, but that's Life in the bike lane.
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Originally Posted by JBHoren
I also found seat height to be crucial. My Left Foot flops like a wet noodle (spinal, dontcha know) and I can't strap- or clip-in, so I use BMX-style pedals with those evil screws to help keep my feet from moving (too much)... my shins aren't so happy, but that's Life in the bike lane.
I will have to double check the seat height, but I might be able to get MAYBE another 1/8-1/4" more height before the hips star rocking.
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Originally Posted by vesteroid
I have a 50 shoe, and suggest you really watch your knees in relationship to your hips and feet. When I get tired I have a tendency to let me knees sag out, which throws my heels in. If I focus on my form, I keep my knees aligned with the feet and hips and make my legs like pistons. Problem solved.

My not work for you, but it may be work looking into.
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15UK/16US/51eu I use my cleat position/rotation to limit my inward heel movement so that I can't rub derailleur or chainstay. Keeping my knees in and close to the top tube helps with foot alignment, aerodynamics and a generally decent spin (sufficiently so that some extremely experienced racers have commented on how pretty my spin is).

Don't rule out finding a good fitter. A good one can usually diagnose the cause as well as the most appropriate means of correcting such issues.

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I thought I needed extenders until I did this. I wear 49's.
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