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225 lbs and the weight won't go away

Old 08-30-13, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by IBOHUNT
with respect to Roundup...
and your corn along with corn based products (tortilla's, taco shells, etc.) along with soybeans and it's products. Spray the heck out of them.
There is no roundup ready wheat or corn.

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Originally Posted by bbbean
There is no roundup ready wheat or corn.
You should tell Monsanto and Dow
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I haven't weighed myself in years. I judge my condition based on how I feel and how my pants fit. And whether I can ride better than I could previously.

That is all.
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Originally Posted by IBOHUNT
Then we get into the debate of a 'non-athletic build'
According to BMI calculators I am overweight at 18% body fat
There is increasing evidence that BMI is not a good indicator of health, going back to 2006 with a report from the Mayo Clinic. There is also a new research paper published this week in The Lancet that indicates that BMI is not as good as it is claimed to be in determining health; a significant spin-off issue is the amount of taxes being spent on treatments based on BMI indicators.

There are many thin people who fit the BMI ideals, but they are far from fit and healthy. Just as there are people who fit the BMI mould of being fat who are very fit and healthy.

There are far more accurate and meaningful measures of a person's fitness than BMI alone.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: The BMI was never intended as a tool for the evaluation of individual fitness (It was developed by the University of Minnesota for the insurance industry to help predict morbidity and mortality in a population, not individuals). For example, consider two men, both 6'0" and 220 pounds. The first is a serious amateur athlete who cross trains 4-5 times a week, is muscular and has 16% bodyfat. The second is a couch spud who lives in front of the TV eating Cheetos, has a physique of butter, and 32% bodyfat. Obviously these men have vastly different levels of fitness yet they have the exact same BMI (using the original and still most used BMI formula). There have been some attempts to add wrist, waist or other measurements to improve the BMI tool but it is still just a wild guess, no better than a physician could do by just looking at a patient standing in front of them.

Body composition is a much better predictor of fitness. The OP has a bodyfat of 21%, not great, not horrible. Focusing on losing excess fat (notice I did not say "weight"), maintaining or gaining muscle and other lean mass, and setting a goal of something like 15% would mean far more to his fitness than trying to make the numbers work for the BMI index.
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Originally Posted by bbbean
There is no roundup ready wheat or corn.
Originally Posted by IBOHUNT
You should tell Monsanto and Dow
The wheat exists but is not cleared for sale. I don't grow corn so I can't say anything there...
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There is more than one reason why the US doesn't grow GM wheat. Export markets such as those in Asia won't accept it. And as the article says, it's not permitted to be grown in the US.
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And two more links to substantiate my position on BMI:



BMI was something I was blissfully unaware of until about four years ago. It still doesn't figure in my assessment of my fitness levels.

I know when I am overweight by what the scales say and how my body behaves. Skin folds and the adipose tissue underneath tell me more than incremental changes in BMI figures. I don't need an electronic calculator system to know that I am eating too many calories... I just need to look at the food and my serving sizes to determine that.

I know when I am unfit by my performance in physical activities, covering my work in orchards to riding bicycles. Heart rate, perceived level of effort and muscle soreness afterwards are all fair indicators to me of my fitness.
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Those scales were meant to be indicators, not absolutes. I can get to my ideal weight and still not be fit, which I have done. This time I have been loosing weight by watching my diet AND exercising by cycling as much as possible & group rides. I keep pushing myself further to reach my goal .. just a few lbs away and I can bike much further than when I first started without working up a sweat. I have been told that muscle mass weighs more than body fat.
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Originally Posted by Highlander1
I just came back from Fred Meyer with my test results. I am 65 years old. They have a machine to test there.
Blood Pressure 132/93 Hg Pulse 81
Weight 224.2 lbs
BMI 32.2
Body Fat 21.7%
Hydration Index -2.06

So my BMI is horrible but actual body fat at 21.7% doesn't make it easy to get under 200 lbs. I would be around 10 to 12% Fat. That is really hard to do at my age. If I had 25 lbs less to carry I could bike like a rocket though. I will have to become anorexic to get there. Longest day ride this year only 100 miles. Last year at 212 lbs longest day ride was 200 miles.

Evaluate WHAT you are eating not necessarily how much. I have found that i can't gain weight eating broccoli and carrots. The Cinnabon is another story Feed the machine to do more exercise.

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