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Old 10-15-13, 07:28 AM
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Double Digits!

I finally broke the 10mi barrier. I went 10.8mi in 52:23 with an avg speed of 12.4, and of course it's pretty darn flat.

Quick question. What's the best way to work to increase distance? Slower speed, and just rack up the miles, or push as hard as possible for as long as possible? Maybe increasing overall weight (heavy backpack maybe), would yield better distances when weight is removed...?

I'm sure my distances will increase when I change to road tires, and then again when I replace my current ride.
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As a guy told me early this year when I asked him about help with training....

"Come back when you have 3,000 miles of ridding on your saddle"

Now, not knowing you or how long you have been ridding my suggestion is just 'saddle time'. With that will come more fitness for your legs, lungs, and backside, and you will magically be doing both faster and longer rides.

Join the 100 mil month club part of the Clydes forum. It motivates some to get out and put in the miles.
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Old 10-15-13, 11:09 AM
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Ahh.. so just keep cranking away at it and the distance and speed'll come... works for me!
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Originally Posted by WebFootFreak View Post

Quick question. What's the best way to work to increase distance?
Next time, ride 7 miles out instead of 5 Of course, I say that only half-jokingly, as having to get back to your start point is a good motivator and a good reason to do out-and-backs rather than loops. That said, you don't want to kill yourself, so ramp up the miles gradually...also, increase the frequency of your rides. If you ride every other day, try doing two days on and one day off.

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As others have said, just rack up the miles. Keep adding to them and they get easier.

One caution, remember that wherever you are you're only half way there. So head out as far as you want to but remember that unless your route has turned back on itself you have to ride that far back. I have a friend who got excited and started heading out on a route I had described to him, got to the other end and was too pooped to ride back. it worked out for him this time but might not of if his wife wasn't home.
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What helped me the most was learning that spinning is better than mashing. It kind of runs counter to what us bigger guys are use to. We use our size and brute strength to get things done, only problem is that runs out pretty quick. If your legs are burning and that is your limiting factor shift to an easier gear and you will be able to go farther. Find the gear and cadence that allows you to work on your cardio more and you will be surprised how quickly you can add distance to your rides. So use your gears to get your cadence up, put in more saddle time, and the distance will be there.
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Old 10-15-13, 02:42 PM
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Don't put extra weight on the bike. That won't help unless you plan on doing some loaded touring in the near future.

The standard advice is to increase your weekly mileage by about 10% and your longest ride of the week also by 10% until you get where you want to be.

What's the difference between the weekly and longest ride ten percents? You could increase your weekly mileage 10% by just riding another day or doing two rides in one day. The longest is still the longest. In your case you'd want to attempt a 12 mile ride next week.

Oh! Congrats!!!
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Congrats on 10 miles. That was my first milestone about 40 years ago... I didn't think I would ever want to ride more than 10 miles in a day...

as you continue to ride your ability to push further will come naturally. Once 10 miles is easy then do 15. Set up some goals and work on establishing a base. I am helping a friend do her first 50 miler November 2. Although she has not done more than 35 miles so far, she hs built up a good base (miles per week) so I know the distance won't be a problem.

Word of caution: Don't push too fast or hard. The result maybe bad and might discourage you to try again. Do some study on the proper way to train and increase distance. Learn good cycling techniques like good cadence and road handling skills; practice those each time you are out. Your cadence should be somehwere around 65 - 80 rpms, until the cadence is comfortable. I normally ride between 85 - 95. If you can, add in some hill work and shoot for quality over quantity.

10 miles is nothing to sneeze at. Before you know it, you will be riding a century!
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Old 10-15-13, 05:30 PM
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The main thing is to avoid overuse injury when you are just starting out. When I started I would only ride every other day... but then again im an old man 63 and afraid of my own shadow.

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Old 10-15-13, 06:01 PM
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For the record, I've only been riding since the beginning of August, which was 32 lbs ago. I did it simple. I wanted an hour of exercise after work. I stopped at the bike trail on the way home and rode an hour. Didn't matter to me how many miles I rode, I rode for an hour. Turns out, I ride about 6 miles, take a drink break, turn around and ride 6 miles back. I will say, I do have a particular spot for that 6 mile point that I was shooting for, there is a tunnel on my bike trail and it is really cool. The other side of the tunnel is exactly 6 miles, thus I have a nice approximate hour long 12 mile ride I do daily.

I'm happy with that. I'm not a cyclist. I certainly don't have the greatest bike in the world, even the kids I see have nicer and more expensive bikes (more expensive than I can afford) than I have with my POS Walmart bike. All I want is exercise that is enjoyable that I will stick with. This is definitely it, really enjoyable.

I don't have much time to get away by myself. My wife works evenings and usually weekends. Thus the grab an hour on my way home from work so I can get home right before she leaves. Weekends I leave the kids home and my hour takes me about an hour and a half due to getting to the trail.

My wife had a really rare weekend off. I was up early in the morning and headed to the trail. I was learning about the spinning vs. mashing mentioned above. I started dropping down gears and pedaling faster. I got to my 6 mile point and felt so good that I decided to keep going. I went another 3 miles before my rear end told me I should head back so I can make it the whole way. Legs previously were getting tired. This time with higher cadence, my legs felt great. Rode 18 miles instead of 12 miles that morning.

The next weekend my wife had another Saturday off. Up early again, I sought out another trail that crosses my local one at the river. Really cool bridge going over the river. Turned out that it ended at 8 miles where I thought it went further (found out today that I have to leave the trail, go cross the highway and I can pick it back up again. Sounds like a nice trip for next weekend I can get out.) So, I reached the end at 8 miles and just longed to go further. Didn't know I could so I turned around and rode back. 16 miles that day and I felt great.

I ride the longer rides when I can. I find that I'm not limited to miles. I am limited by time. An hour and a half is all I can hack on my junk bike that is too small. My rear end gets too sore and I start to get pretty numb in the arms after that hour and a half. I rode the other night a connecting trail that was just a quad trail rather than my normal paved rails to trails. I specifically left late so that I could ride back in the dark with lights. Because of it being a dirt quad trail, I was a good bit slower and instead of the distance taking me an hour and a half like on my paved trail, it took me 2 hours. That was too much. Not because of exhaustion or because of the legs, but just because of saddle soreness and arm numbness.

One thing I read here about the sore saddle which helps me a lot is to stand up every so often to relieve the pressure on the ole rump. If I stand up every 3 or 4 miles for a few seconds, the rear end lasts much longer. I'm not sure what to do about the arms though, my left arm was so fatigued and numb that I couldn't even take the cap off the toothpaste that night that I was out for 2 hours.

So after all that, just ride man. Ride whatever you want. Go on daily rides for your hour. I think you'll find that if you want to go further, it won't be much of a big deal to go further. The distance, the speed, it all just comes naturally. I was riding 10 mph. Then it was 12. Then it was 14. That is pretty much what I ride now, I just ride at 14 mph. I do have a short trail, only 5 miles round trip that I stop at when I want to get home earlier from my after work rides. Since it is only 5 miles I do pedal as hard as I can to last just the 5 miles. First few trips it was done at 16 mph. Tonight I left work a little late, wanted to make sure I saw my wife before she left so I was riding this 5 miler. I was pushing hard like I do on this trail and glanced down at my speedometer. Realized I was pushing it at 18 mph. 18 mph doesn't sound like very speedy probably to most on this forum and their light road bikes or light hybrid bikes, but I'm on a dual suspension heavy $100 Walmart mountain bike. Fastest I've ever gotten it to in a short duration sprint (without standing, I can't stand up on this POS) was 21 mph. I was real happy to see that I was cruising at 18 mph.

Speaking of sprinting, on my daily 12 mile bike trail, the first half mile and therefore the last half mile is lined by fencing. What I was doing is when I reached the fenced part on the way back, I poured on the power in the legs and went as hard as I possibly could for that last half mile jumping up a few gears. At first that was only 17-18 mph and I could only go maybe a quarter mile before I would have to slow down and finish with an easy pedal. Each ride the speed got faster or the length got faster. I haven't actually done it in a while, but last time I did while I cruised the 11.5 miles at 14 mph, I hit that 21 mph I mentioned and pushed that for the entire last half a mile. I'll have to do that again next ride on that trail and see how fast I can sprint for half a mile since I cruised tonight's short 5 mile ride at 18 mph with no problems.
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Originally Posted by IBOHUNT View Post
As a guy told me early this year when I asked him about help with training....

"Come back when you have 3,000 miles of ridding on your saddle"

Now, not knowing you or how long you have been ridding my suggestion is just 'saddle time'. With that will come more fitness for your legs, lungs, and backside, and you will magically be doing both faster and longer rides.

Join the 100 mil month club part of the Clydes forum. It motivates some to get out and put in the miles.
This. It's putting in miles that allow you to do more distance and speed. The more you ride, the better you'll get! A better bike would really help, too.

(IBO: Some guy told you to put 3000 miles of what into your saddle? )

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Well then, I will just keep on keepin' on! Lol.

I'm limited by time most of the time. My wife and I are on opposite shifts, and I work Sundays to boot. We have 4 kids, and I just can't leave them alone so... On the mornings my wife is home, I get up at 0430 and head out either to walk/run or ride. I'm generally back and in the shower by 0545 and kids up at 0630. Since I hurt my Achilles, it's been all ride lately. Getting a bit addicted too.

I am planning on a better bike right around the first of the year.
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First Double Digit Ride! May it be the first in a series of important cycling firsts for you.
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I recently passed the 10 mi mark also. Feels good.
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Old 10-16-13, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 2 wheeler View Post
This. It's putting in miles that allow you to do more distance and speed. The more you ride, the better you'll get! A better bike would really help, too.

(IBO: Some guy told you to put 3000 miles of what into your saddle? )
Dag! Caught again.
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Congrats on the first 10 mile ride!

I vote for more time riding, even at a slow pace the more you ride a certain distance the faster you will become.
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Originally Posted by WebFootFreak View Post
I'm limited by time most of the time. My wife and I are on opposite shifts, and I work Sundays to boot. We have 4 kids, and I just can't leave them alone so... On the mornings my wife is home, I get up at 0430 and head out either to walk/run or ride. I'm generally back and in the shower by 0545 and kids up at 0630. Since I hurt my Achilles, it's been all ride lately. Getting a bit addicted too.

I am planning on a better bike right around the first of the year.
The fact that you're going out there at 4:30AM is probably a sign you'll be getting in more miles soon, even if the time you can spare doesn't go up. If that's your goal, at least. Not everyone is in it to go faster.

As you get more addicted, remember to bring one more water bottle than you think you need. I had a habit this summer of just blowing past my turn-around points because it was such a nice road...
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I recently passed the 20 mile mark for a daily ride. That felt pretty good. I usually ride about 5-10 miles daily but often I will ride 2 or 3 rides in a single day and be in the teens for daily mileage. My average speed though has been stagnant at around 11mph which is annoying.

So far this year, I have just under 900 miles which may not be a lot to hard core commuters but to a 350 pound guy like me, that feels pretty awesome.
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GREAT! Having a goal...any goal can inspire anyone...keep setting realistic goals that will make you happy and continue pumping.....ride on!
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Nice work!!! As many have already said just keep riding. I started riding in Jan'12 on the local bike paths at 360lbs, 5 miles, then 7, then 10...and to date my longest ride has been 72 miles. Speeds started slow and began slowly creeping up and then in the late spring '13 I started doing repeats on hills and interval training and really started to see an increase in speed. 18-18.5mph average is normal and a few weeks ago I was able to maintain a 20mph average over 20 miles on an after work ride. Today I currently down 100lbs with a normally week consisting of a couple 20-25 milers during the week, 50-60 miles on Saturday and a 20-25 mile recovery ride on Sunday all if life allows if not adjust as necessary. Set goals but keep them realistic, keep working and most of all enjoy the sport!!
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