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anyone try xenical or other weight loss meds?

Old 10-23-13, 09:54 AM
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Put down the Twinkies, get off the couch, and go for a ride.

This isn't a flippant response from someone who doesn't understand. I've been overweight or obese since pre-school and topped out at 315+ in my 40s. I went through every excuse in the book. Looked to dozens of fad diets and pills/shakes/teas, you name it, for an easy fix. As an adult, unless someone is force feeding you and keeping you duct taped to a chair with the TV remote taped in you hand, it is your choice what and how much you eat and when and how much you exercise. I damn near killed myself with excuses and only since I've taken personal responsibility for my health have I made any real lasting progress. Now 90 pounds lighter and far fitter, with much improved lab values for diabetes and cardiovascular risks, I'm about to turn 50. Ten years ago there were a lot of people, including myself, who didn't think I'd make it.
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Originally Posted by CommuteCommando
A word that had been mentioned here is "willpower". A better word, and the one I like to use is "determination".
semantic differences are important because they trigger different emotions, and of course, emotions play a strong role in our eating behavior . . . but, all our emotions, when boiled down, are just electrons jumping cross neural gaps in our physical brains. at the bottom of it all we are just fleshbots following a program written in DNA code, responding to a an ever-changing environment. but that's the good news. robots can be fixed . . . and by God, I have faith . . . so can flesh robots, the only difference from mechanical robots (so far) is that fleshbots have to fix themselves.

ps--eh, I just googled "fleshbot" . . . . . . I was obviously unaware of modern usage . . . please replace fleshbot = "biomechanical robot" in the above to avoid embarrassing connotations. !

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Interesting thread with lots of interesting opinions.

I'll introduce another piece of the puzzle that I have been learning more about lately.

The QUALITY of the food you eat is also a big influence on your weight and appetite. A trip to the grocery store gets you aisles and aisles of overprocessed and underperforming (nutrition wise) "food." Additives like high fructose corn syrup can kill much of your self contreol at a dinner. I also blame it for being diabetic. Our meats from the corporate farms are from animals that were not fed well, but fed cheap feed to fatten them up. Almost anything with corn or soy is GMO and was bathed in glyphosphate that will be part of your body, since the plant that drank it didnt die. Glyphosphate is also a bacteriocide that is now killing the good bacteria in your gut so whatever nutrition you did eat is not processed properly. Its all very sad.

I know farmers markets are pretty much done for the season, at least here in Ohio, but there are other places you can still get quality food that will taste better, make you feel better and your body will respond in kind and become what it should be for weight and energy.

I'm still working this out to start making better choices for better food for myself and those around me. Before this I was a typical eat whatever you like kinda guy. I remarked to my sweetie a few weeks back when we had some orange rolls for breakfast- "Mmmm this poison tastes sooo good."

Give it some thought. Anyone needing some more info about what we are being fed I'll turn you on to some websites if you PM.

Eat well and have fun on 2 wheels everyone!

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Originally Posted by speedy25
I'm still working this out to start making better choices for better food for myself and those around me. Before this I was a typical eat whatever you like kinda guy. I remarked to my sweetie a few weeks back when we had some orange rolls for breakfast- "Mmmm this poison tastes sooo good."
sometimes I walk through the busy hospital across the street on my way to a meeting and note people as I pass in the hall . . . overweight, overweight, obese, overweight, oh wait, a thin one, they look good . . . overweight, overweight . . . then I look closer, and people are carrying bits of food in their hands, candy, plates full of food from the nearby cafeteria . . . what are they holding . . . donut, some sort of potato mash, orange food, chips, coffee . . . how'd they get a McDonalds in here . . . and I imagine that the world has been invaded by some alien force that is subduing the population with food-like substances that are blinding us to our true state of subjugation. They have taken . . . the blue pill . . . and their entire view of life is skewed . . . 20, 40, 60 lbs to the heavy side. It's killing them . . . it's killing me, and we don't even know it.
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sometimes I walk through the busy hospital across the street on my way to a meeting and note people as I pass in the hall . . .
Ever notice the increasing number of double-wide chairs in waiting areas? A few years back I saw a story on some TV news show about the need for hospitals to buy such chairs and things like gurneys and beds capable of supporting 500+ lbs.

I remember flying through Minneapolis in 2002 on the way to Boise for the start of a cycing event. At first I could not figure out why there was a Sharpes box on the wall of the men's room. Then it dawned on me.
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I went from an "obese" 230 (ish) down to a "normal" 160, in a year, by a slight change in diet (traded less sugar and processed/fatty foods for more fruit/vegetable and lean meats) and regular exercise. I don't think I would want to risk the possible side effects of weight loss drugs or even surgery if I had to do this again (hopefully I learned my lesson and will never have to).

No one said it was going to be easy, but with a little effort, time and dedication you too can shed the excess weight.
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