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Old 05-02-14, 06:50 AM
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Wanna lose weight BUT LOVE BEER

I'm 55 and now weight 238 lbs . i bike a bit but want to increase my biking a lot this summer and start to watch the scale go down instead of up . My problem is i love beer and we go to the cottage a lot with family members who like to party and enjoy themselves . I know already i won't be able to sit there and just watch them drink beer .

I tell myself at least this summer i will exercise more and burn some of those calories . I hope to bike 300 miles a month .

Anyone else keep on enjoying beer and loose lbs by biking or am i just kidding myself ?
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You cannot just tell yourself you will exercise more. You have to do it. Problem solved. And it doesn't have to be just biking. For example, can you take brisk walks while at the cottage? Go on hikes? Swim in a lake?

BTW...Simply setting a mileage goal and achieving it may be insufficient. 300 easy miles is not gong to burn as many calories as 300 hard miles.

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I've had success in the past month and a half. Been commuting, but also decided to start counting calories. I use an app called MyFitnessPal to log them, and it''s been working great. Limiting myself to 2000 calories daily, I've already lost the weight (10lbs) I put on during the winter. Here in Wisconsin we've got some hearty beers and I do love them so, so I've been working them into my daily allowment. I've been eating lighter meals, and I generally have enough calories left for a couple of beers at ~200 cal apiece. I don't do it, but the app I mentioned allows you to add exercise with calories burned estimates included, so sweating a bit could earn you another beer. You've got to stay true and not cheat though, or I don't think it'll work.
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Possible? Yes ... but drinking calories makes losing a little more difficult.

I too, love beer. I drink it, I brew it, I cook with it ... as with everything -- everything in moderation.

I've gotten to where I'd rather have just one, REALLY good beer a night, while with friends, so I'll buy a bomber and nurse that for awhile.

But, there are nights where I'll have more than that ... and then I pay for it the next day or the following week.

It comes down to, are you willing to put in the work (on the bike) to indulge in beer? Commit to riding an hour a day and look up the calories of each beer you drink (or just your prefered beer). It'll open your eyes.
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There's a saying that if you want to lose weight, you need to change your eating ( or in this case, drinking ) habits; If you want to get healthy, you exercise. Doing one thing does not automatically make the other happen. I see that mistake happen a lot; "Oh, I just biked 20 miles, so I can justify eating this cupcake now." Nope, it doesn't work that way.
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Losing weight while drinking beer, is like remaining faithful to your wife while having a girl on the side.

It's either one or the other. Take your pick!
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Losing weight while drinking beer, is like remaining faithful to your wife while having a girl on the side.

It's either one or the other. Take your pick!
I humbly disagree ... with the beer part, not the girl on the side part!

If you can squeeze beer into your allotted calories on a given day, go for it. If you drink over and above your calories, prepare to put in some time (on the bike, at the gym) to work it off or accept that your weight loss will be slower than you'd like.
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Old 05-02-14, 08:35 AM
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I'm in the same boat.
I like a beer or 2 after a hard day.

Unfortunately, a calorie is a calorie is a myth.

Alcohol is 6 calories per gram and seems to have a negative satiety. Meaning it increases hunger signals.

Google alcohol metabolism.

Alcohol takes a unique pathway. It seems to have been adapted from fructose metabolism. To detoxify alcohol as fast as possible it preferentially stores it as fat. Worse as visceral fat.

Perversely, from a body composition perspective... It makes sense that IF you're going to drink, then it's best to drink with low blood sugar... But that maximizes alcohol blood level spike. It is currently thought that the higher the spike, the longer it's held, the more frequent your exposure the more corrosive to long term health.

But it makes me a cheap date!!!
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Many of us have tried to outride our poor eating habits. I don't think it is often the long term solution.

Fitness is earned exercising. Weight control is earned at the dinner table. The issue is you can quickly and easily out eat/drink the longest of rides.
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Originally Posted by ill.clyde View Post
I humbly disagree ... with the beer part, not the girl on the side part!

If you can squeeze beer into your allotted calories on a given day, go for it. If you drink over and above your calories, prepare to put in some time (on the bike, at the gym) to work it off or accept that your weight loss will be slower than you'd like.
So a beer lover disagrees!

Alcohol is an addictive chemical compound, just like nicotine, heroin, cocaine, etc...
That's especially so when it's consumed socially with friends and associates. Eventually, it becomes difficult to have just one beer (trust me, I know )...

Remaining a healthy cyclist is made much easier by avoiding alcohol altogether. Of course, that's easier said than done. Most occasional drinkers, find it easy to become casual drinkers. Most casual drinkers find it easy to eventually become alcoholics. Alcohol consumption can become a very slippery slope!
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Good points Null66 and WestPablo. I hadn't ever delved that deep into the science.

There's no way I could avoid it altogether ... and I agree it can become a very slippery slope. I guess I'm lucky ... when it comes to drinking I don't have that addiction issue. I literally can, and do sometimes, have just one beer some nights. That's not to say I don't want more ... but sometimes I just don't.

Plus, when you're throwing down the same $$ for one beer as a six pack of crap, you enjoy it more.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
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A co-worker once told me (she has no medical affiliation so take this with the grain of salt) that she drank beer to load up on carbs before an intense work out. As long as you drink in moderation and responsibly, a couple beers won't hurt. I believe I read some place that even non-light beer has less calories than a can of regular soda, if that'll help you sleep at night.
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Thanks for the great comments . I just posted this and went for a bike ride before it rains again . I biked 14.6 km so 9 miles . I'm starting to feel stronger , my legs feel stronger and i'll stick with biking for sure . As for the beer i drink lite beer so about 110 calorie each . I also walk and will work in the yard and garden for longer periods of time . I'm not doing this to allow me to drink beer but just to put the old body in better shape . I love this site it's a great help .
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I believe I read some place that even non-light beer has less calories than a can of regular soda, if that'll help you sleep at night.
It's true. Guinness has around 125 calories for 12 oz. Pepsi is 150 for 12oz. Regular Bud has 145.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
You cannot just tell yourself you will exercise more. You have to do it. Problem solved. And it doesn't have to be just biking. For example, can you take brisk walks while at the cottage? Go on hikes? Swim in a lake?

BTW...Simply setting a mileage goal and achieving it may be insufficient. 300 easy miles is not gong to burn as many calories as 300 hard miles.
All very true.

And you can't say you love beer and then report that you drink lite beer. That just doesn't compute.
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Originally Posted by ill.clyde View Post
Good points Null66 and WestPablo. I hadn't ever delved that deep into the science.

There's no way I could avoid it altogether ... and I agree it can become a very slippery slope. I guess I'm lucky ... when it comes to drinking I don't have that addiction issue. I literally can, and do sometimes, have just one beer some nights. That's not to say I don't want more ... but sometimes I just don't.

Plus, when you're throwing down the same $$ for one beer as a six pack of crap, you enjoy it more.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
What he said. Methinks self control is key, and it helps if you treat beer as a beverage instead of a means to get fracked up. The price of good beer helps in this regard too
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Originally Posted by richardg40 View Post
I'm 55 and now weight 238 lbs . i bike a bit but want to increase my biking a lot this summer and start to watch the scale go down instead of up . My problem is i love beer and we go to the cottage a lot with family members who like to party and enjoy themselves . I know already i won't be able to sit there and just watch them drink beer .

I tell myself at least this summer i will exercise more and burn some of those calories . I hope to bike 300 miles a month .

Anyone else keep on enjoying beer and loose lbs by biking or am i just kidding myself ?
Sure. I lost 160+ lbs and still drink beer. Granted, I drink a lot less beer, and drink Mich Ultra when I'm having several, but the beer's just like anything else. Crux of the matter is that calories in < calories out. If you burn 1000 calories on a good ride, no reason not to reward yourself with a <insert your favorite brew here>.
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Regardless of what these 12-steppers are telling you it is possible to enjoy beer, eat what you want, ride your bike and lose weight. Sure there are some that get physically and emotionally addicted to alcohol but IMHO that would be the minority. Just like most fat people are not diabetic. Not that I am making the logical mistake of thinking my results will work for everyone either. However i am doing exactly what I claim is possible. 32 ounce of my favorite micro brew is </= 560 calories, so that is what I log when I drink it. I track my calories with MFP, honestly and completely daily. If I have to guess I guess high. I also track my fitness calorie expenditure based on my HRM, logging that as well into MFP. I often enough eat back nearly all my exercise calories and yet I am losing 2 pounds a week. Making choices and being disciplined is really what it takes. I eat what I want but not all I want all at the same time. I pay attention to the calorie impact of my food and drink choices. To be able to afford 1-2 beers several times a week I am eating my base calories of <1400/ day and rode 703 miles last month. My weight has gone down, my speed on the bike has increased. I have also gone after a number of Strava segments. In other words I spend part of my time on the bike riding all out. The harder I ride the more I can eat and drink. The farther I ride the more I can eat and drink. YMMV
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Originally Posted by awfulwaffle View Post
What he said. Methinks self control is key, and it helps if you treat beer as a beverage instead of a means to get fracked up. The price of good beer helps in this regard too
I was shocked to hear about some people who are able to shoot up drugs like cocaine and herion, only once or twice a month and not get hooked, but these people do exist!

I'm almost just as shocked to hear about people who regularly meet at the same bar after work, who are not really alcoholics!
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I'm almost just as shocked to hear about people who regularly meet at the same bar after work, who are not really alcoholics!
They're not addicted to alcohol, they're addicted to the companionship of their fellow man! <.< >.>
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All very true.

And you can't say you love beer and then report that you drink lite beer. That just doesn't compute.
Quoted for truth!
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Originally Posted by Black wallnut View Post
Regardless of what these 12-steppers are telling you it is possible to enjoy beer, eat what you want, ride your bike and lose weight. Sure there are some that get physically and emotionally addicted to alcohol but IMHO that would be the minority. Just like most fat people are not diabetic. Not that I am making the logical mistake of thinking my results will work for everyone either. However i am doing exactly what I claim is possible. 32 ounce of my favorite micro brew is </= 560 calories, so that is what I log when I drink it. I track my calories with MFP, honestly and completely daily. If I have to guess I guess high. I also track my fitness calorie expenditure based on my HRM, logging that as well into MFP. I often enough eat back nearly all my exercise calories and yet I am losing 2 pounds a week. Making choices and being disciplined is really what it takes. I eat what I want but not all I want all at the same time. I pay attention to the calorie impact of my food and drink choices. To be able to afford 1-2 beers several times a week I am eating my base calories of <1400/ day and rode 703 miles last month. My weight has gone down, my speed on the bike has increased. I have also gone after a number of Strava segments. In other words I spend part of my time on the bike riding all out. The harder I ride the more I can eat and drink. The farther I ride the more I can eat and drink. YMMV
Pretty much the same for me ...though not as many miles just yet. And not as much loss.

However, since I started to get serious back in February, I've lost 13 pounds, and still I drink beer.


In fact, I've had a few "multi-beer" nights and still managed to lose 13 pounds. Like I said, it's a matter of moderation and putting in the miles to mitigate the beers.
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I lost 100lbs with a lifestyle change. Then after a divorce, depression, and a new-found micro-brew habit I gained back 60lbs - even though I went car-free and ride everywhere.

I'm still struggling the beer question. I don't want to give up beer, but I know I need to seriously cut back if I'm to get back to my previous weight.
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I lost 100lbs with a lifestyle change. Then after a divorce, depression, and a new-found micro-brew habit I gained back 60lbs - even though I went car-free and ride everywhere.

I'm still struggling the beer question. I don't want to give up beer, but I know I need to seriously cut back if I'm to get back to my previous weight.
If you lost 100 lbs once, you know it's a matter of wanting to be fit more than you want another beer. You've proven you can do it. Just do it again!
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I usually drink wine, not beer, so this thread doesn't apply to me.
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